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Thomas Carter Sr (abt. 1627 - abt. 1669)

Thomas Carter Sr
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died about at about age 42 in Isle of Wight County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Caution: See Easily Conflated. This Thomas Carter is meant to represent the one born c. 1627 –death c. 1669; who hired himself as an indentured servant in order to immigrate from England to Isle of Wight County, Virginia. He married c. 1650 to Elinor Cooke. He died c. 1669. His son (and only known child) Thomas Carter Jr. married Magdalene Moore and wrote his will in 1710.

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Biography

This profile is part of the Carter Name Study.

(Capt) Thomas Carter Sr.

Direct Ancestor of Pres Jimmy Carter

Immigrated to Virginia

Thomas may have immigrated in 1637 from England to Isle of Wight County, Virginia.[1]

Thomas is also said to have been the Thomas Carter, aged 25, aboard the Safety bound for Virginia in 1635 (which would place his birth at 1610), but there is no evidence, and the Jimmy Carter Presidential Library and Museum believes that was not the identical Thomas Carter. There were many men named Thomas Carter in colonial Virginia.

Marriage

Thomas is assumed to have married to Eleanor/Elinor Cooke.[2] The Jimmy Carter Presidential Library does not mention a wife of Thomas, Sr.[1] After Thomas died, Elinor married, as her 2nd, to William Grove of Upper Parish.[2] This is proved by a deed abstract 9 October 1674 promising "certain things" to her heirs.[2]

Child

Only one known child:.[1]

  1. Thomas Carter, Jr. b c. 1652; mar Magdalene Moore.

This from the Jimmy Carter Presidential Library in regards to Thomas Jr.:

Thomas Carter, Jr. left a will in 1710. In that will, Thomas, Jr. did not name all of his children, but Moore Carter (c. 1680-1741) who married Jane and moved to Bertie County, North Carolina, is believed to have been his son. Moore left a will naming a son Isaac who married Ruth and died after 1790. Isaac and Ruth were the parents of Kindred and James, among others. Kindred and James both came to Georgia.[1]
Note: Two other children Edward and William were attached to this profile, but have been removed since we can find no documentation regarding them.[3]

Positions and Property

In coastal Virginia in the 1600's, anyone who transported tobacco owned one or more small boats and were often called "Captain" as a result. In Will and Deed Book 1, Thomas was mentioned when William Tooke testified under oath that the bill to William Richardson for a sloop was satisfied by 4,300 pounds of tobacco.[2] Thomas was to pay the remainder by 9 June 1668.[2]

Death and Legacy

Thomas died without a will in 1669 in Virginia.[citation needed] He died leaving a small estate¸ which included four indentured servants: "two who are to serve 3 years apiece, one years, one 4 years."[4]

Thomas was the immigrant ancestor to President Jimmy Carter,[1]

Research Notes

Easily Conflated

Caution: Multiple Thomas Carters.

This Thomas Carter is meant to represent the one born c. 1627 –death c. 1669; who hired himself as an indentured servant in order to immigrate from England to Isle of Wight County, Virginia. He married c. 1650 to Elinor Cooke. He died c. 1669. His son (and only known child) Thomas Carter Jr. married Magdalene Moore and wrote his will in 1710.

Three Thomas Carters in Lancaster County around 1650-1670:[5]

  1. Thomas Carter (this profile) b. 1627-1669
  2. Maj Thomas Carter was born in London around 1610 died in 1658 Parents John Carter and Elizabeth Benion assumed to be the parents (evidence is circumstantial).[6]
  3. Thomas Carter of Barford (1630 - 1700) Poss parents Ancell Carter-212 and Mary Ann Emmery. He married Katherine Dale.

And several more in Massachusetts:

Uncertain Origin

Origin unknown, except that it was probably England. We do not know his parents.

There may be some new information available now, because of DNA analysis and a study of the Isle of Wight records. Dr. Barry Hayes has developed a theory in which this Capt. Thomas Carter is a son of William Carter of Surry, and there may be some DNA evidence for John Carter, vintner of London.[7]

Stephen Ballard has cautioned that lack of a well-researched family history among the participants has emerged as a major stumbling block; "The cruel irony of genetic genealogy is that usually those being tested are those with the least amount of knowledge about their families."[8]

The possible parents John Carter and Elizabeth Benion were disconnected. Another possible father, William Carter, was also detached from this profile. No evidence has been found for any parents. Please do not add any parents without quality sources.

Thomas Carter Study

We now have a Thomas Carter Study page for anyone interested to add information (with sources, please). One of our goals is to study the various relationships of this family in the hope of discovering Thomas' origin. This is a space to leave more informal notes.

We also wish to determine the relationships between this Thomas Carter, Sr and Major Thomas Carter or Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr. of Barford (either of whom may or may not be the identical person).

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Jimmy Carter Presidential Library and Museum, "Jimmy Carter Genealogical Information", citing Georgia Life. (Winter, 1976, pp. 40 ff.) by Kenneth H. Thomas, accessed October 17, 2015.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Boddie, John Bennett, Seventeenth Century Isle of Wight County, Virginia: A History of the County ... (Page 570) Genealogical Publishing Com, 1973, accessed June 30, 2015
  3. Removed Edward Carter b. 1654 Isle of Wright and William Carter b 1655 Isle of Wright as children
  4. Dr. Kevin Kelley
  5. Carter, Jeff, Ancestors of Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter, Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland and Company, Inc. (2012), 19, 35, 37-39.
  6. John Carter of Christ church , London England: b: abt 1574 – d abt 1630, married Elizabeth "Bridget" Benion The American Genealogist, New Haven, Connecticut: D. L. Jacobus, 1995, Vol. 61, p. 179, New England Historic Genealogical Society AmericanAncestors.org. accessed 5 September 2016. Citing Noel Currer-Briggs, The Carters of Virginia: Their English Ancestry. John and Bridget [disproved] (Benion) Carter are believed to be the parents of Col. John Carter and Thomas Carter, both of whom emigrated to Virginia, but this is not proven.
  7. CARTER Y-Chromosome DNA Surname Project - Y-DNA Classic Chart.
  8. Ballard, Stephen M., Ballard of Virginia accessed 9 March 2016.
  • Info from 'Descendants of John Carter' by Betty Smith Horne, items #7 & #10.




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Hi,

Under "Uncertain Origin" you have "There may be some new information available now, because of DNA analysis and a study of the Isle of Wight records. Dr. Barry Hayes has developed a theory in which this Capt. Thomas Carter is a son of William Carter of Surry, and there may be some DNA evidence for John Carter, vintner of London"

This is not correct. Descendants of William Carter of Surry are in a different haplogroup than the descendants of Thomas Carter of Isle of Wight.

In your research notes you also state; "We also wish to determine the relationships between this Thomas Carter, Sr, and Major Thomas Carter or Capt. Thomas Carter, Sr. of Barford (either of whom may or may not be the identical person)."

There is no relationship between any of these men. Again, they are in different haplogroups.

Big Y DNA testing does show that Thomas Carter had a very distant Carter cousin who immigrated to Virginia in the 1700s. Their common ancestor was born in the late 1200s or early 1300s. We do not know who this Carter man is, but we do know that he had at least 4 sons.

Russ Carter Administrator, FTDNA Carter surname project

posted by Russ Carter
pg. 551 Report of a jury how Wm. PARSONS came to his death. Signed: Thos. CARTER, foreman, Thos. BARLOW, Thos. MOORE, John NEWMAN, Edward BRANTLY, John LITFORD, Joseph POOL, Elias FORT, John BRILL, Charles WILLIAMS, Robert ROE, George MOORE.
posted by [Living Brown]
Under the Marriage heading, where it cites source #5 and says the Library doesn't mention a wife, that link is coming up with a 404 page not found error. And unless that information was more up to date, it may not be note worthy as the Jeff Carter book does identify Elinor Cook as his wife (pages 13, 20, 23, 25, and 32).

On another point, I don't see any evidence that this Thomas ever lived in Lancaster Co. It may reduce confusion to not make the claim that all 3 were in Lancaster unless there is a clear record proving identity.

posted by [Living Anonymous]
A grand son of William Carter. Thomas Carter Jr. Not to attach Thomas Carter Sr to William Carter goes against most prominent genealogist and researchers out there today. While the evidence is circumstantial , there is a preponderance of it. It really is just a real hang up to the widely excepted tree. The bio states the Jimmy Carter library doesnt mention someone. Jimmy Carter's son wrote a book and Jimmy Carter wrote the forward. All the other Thomas Carters listed here just confuse the issue. Way too much info . Thomas Carter claimed head rights each time he travelled back to Virgina. I seriously doubt that he hired him self out as and indentured servant. The book provide sources for his capture. Name of Spanish ships. Court records . A disposition with his age at the time. What he did on his return to Virginia in 1658.
posted by Anonymous Roach
I really think that This Thomas should be attached to William Carter , Carter-4290. As I have said , in his book , Jeff Carter , the son of President Jimmy Carter , " The Ancestors of Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter " clearly outlines the reasons most Carter researchers believe Thomas Carter Sr. Of Ilse of Wight is the son of William Carter. He also provides the answer to the question as to where Thomas Carter was. He lived in England for awhile , was captured by the Spanish for 2 years , and was at sea with his father in law. He returned to Virginia in 1658. The confusion between Thomas Carter of Barford and Thomas of Ilse of Wight is clearly explained and the book is very well sourced. I have no idea why everyone seems to think this book is not a good source. Magdalene Moore married
posted by Anonymous Roach
Carter-11904 and Carter-1761 do not represent the same person because: think Carter-11904 should be removed as husband, if you read the notes in Carter-1761, you will see there is another Thomas Carter b. 1610 (carter-11904) which is not the same person
Carter-11904 and Carter-1761 appear to represent the same person because: Hi Cynthia,

Thank you for the work you are doing on the Carter line! I am proposing a merge, as suggested. Thanks, and good luck on the Carter line. Best Regards

Carter-11904 and Carter-1761 are not ready to be merged because: Setting as Unmerged Matches because the person's military rank is Capt., and the first name is listed as Major Thomas. Major could be a first name. Different birth, and death dates. Different father with different birth dates. Needs more work. Thank you for work you are doing to make WikiTree more accurate. :-)
Carter-11904 and Carter-1761 appear to represent the same person because: These have the same wife and son Thomas.

Please approve if you agree. Thanks!

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Thank you Cynthia. I have removed both Edward and William and placed notes on their profiles regarding this action and links to the parents Iremoved.
As far as I know, they should not be attached (Edward & William). Everything I have seen said he had one son only.

It would be wonderful (as far as I am concerned), if you would like to deal with them, although I am not sure where they should go.

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
What are the sources for the two children Edward and William since the bio states Thomas Jr is his only child?