He was High Sheriff of Northamptonshire in 1530, and the first ever to fill that office.[3]
Marriage
Richard married twice. First to Elizabeth Mervin/Marvyn, daughter of John Marvyn.[3] She died on 9 August 1493.[3] They had two children together.[3]
He remarried to Margaret Saxby, daughter of Sir Thomas Saxby.[2] They had twelve children, eight sons and four daughters together.[3] She died in March 1531/2.[3]
Lundy, D (2006, November 6). "Richard Cave #210210," citing: Mosley, 2003. The Peerage. Web. [2]
Newport, J. (2017, September 25). "Richard Cave," in Ancestry of John D Newport. Rootsweb. citing: Betham's Baronetage and Peerage;, Fragmenta Genealogica and History of Northamptonshire by John Bridges, 1791; Waters, 1878.
Waters, R.E.C. (1878). Genealogical Memoirs of the Extinct Family of Chester of Chicheley, pp. 74-81. London: Robson and Sons. Archive.org.
The pedigrees of Cave, Johnson, Saxby & Saunders, "A Tudor Family Portrait" by Barbara Winchester Pub. 1955.
The Johnson Letters, an unpublished thesis, B. Winchester, University of London 1953.
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In the Bio section it says Richard and Margaret had 12 children together, 8 sons and 5 daughters. 8+5=13. The list in the bio shows 8 sons and 4 daughters, however when you compare the list with the children at the top of the profile which has 10 children with Margaret you will find that:
1. Augustine is in both places but is a daughter in the top and a son in the list.
2. The list has Clement, Francis and Elizabeth, who are not listed at the top. These 3 plus the 10 shown equals 13.
These are two of my 13th GGP and I'm not Pre-1500 certified so - can someone please resolve the gender of Augustine (since it's known he was a monk; I'm assuming that male is the correct gender) AND either correct the number of children to 13 OR eliminate the erroneous child from the list.
Just to add, there is a Cave Family History Society, run by the Cave family with all the ancestral records, the researcher is Linda Hotchkiss (research@ cavefhs.com
apparently Richard was, to quote the record, a friendly intimate of Cromwell, HenryV111's advisor who arranged his appointment to high sheriff of Norrhampton in 1530, and Ricbard's son to a position.
Drucilla Ellender (Parris) Brooks is my 11th cousin 3 times removed through her 10th great grandfather Richard (Roger) Cave who was my 13th great grandfather.
The only time I have seen the name "Roger" appear was in a "Heralds Visitations of a county" book. I believe the compiler or typesetter had inserted the name Roger instead of Richard [those sources are prone to error] I have not found any historical evidence for its usage and would think it is most likley spurious.
Hello Veronica, I am not signed up to edit or add so here is the requested source for Margaret Cave and Rob. Chauntrell,
1) The pedigrees of Cave, Johnson, Saxby & Saunders, "A Tudor Family Portrait" by Barbara Winchester Pub. 1955.
(2) The Johnson Letters, an unpublished thesis, B. Winchester, University of London 1953.
12 Children. Number 10 unknown does not exist. Margaret the dau. of Richard Cave and his first wife Elizabeth Mervin firstly married Thomas Saunders d.1528 and second Robert Chauntrell. (B. Winchester 1955)
The relationship finder notes - This makes Richard Hellstrom (Hellstrom-259) the 15th great grandfather of Richard Cave ( Cave-10). I'm pretty confident up to Elizabeth Lane.
1. Augustine is in both places but is a daughter in the top and a son in the list. 2. The list has Clement, Francis and Elizabeth, who are not listed at the top. These 3 plus the 10 shown equals 13.
These are two of my 13th GGP and I'm not Pre-1500 certified so - can someone please resolve the gender of Augustine (since it's known he was a monk; I'm assuming that male is the correct gender) AND either correct the number of children to 13 OR eliminate the erroneous child from the list.
Thank You
apparently Richard was, to quote the record, a friendly intimate of Cromwell, HenryV111's advisor who arranged his appointment to high sheriff of Norrhampton in 1530, and Ricbard's son to a position.
Richard's middle name was Hambrett.
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1) The pedigrees of Cave, Johnson, Saxby & Saunders, "A Tudor Family Portrait" by Barbara Winchester Pub. 1955. (2) The Johnson Letters, an unpublished thesis, B. Winchester, University of London 1953.
edited by Nigel Bird