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Barbara (Chandler) Rogers (abt. 1552 - abt. 1598)

Barbara Rogers formerly Chandler aka Rodgers
Born about in Haverhill, Suffolk, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 1572 in Wethersfield, Essex, Englandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 46 in Essex, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Sep 2010
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Biography

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Barbara (Chandler) Rogers was born in Suffolk, England.

Note: Rev Richard Rogers is known to have been born in 1551, and died in 1618. His first wife's name is known to have been Barbara. She was probably born about 1551 or after. They had three sons (one died before his father) and four daughters.

Richard married second a widow, Susan Ward, who already had four sons and two daughters by her first husband. Susan and Richard had no children together.

Three of Susan Ward's sons - "Samuel, John, and Nathaniel - became Puritan ministers, and, in Laud's time, all ran afoul of the ecclesiastical authorities. Samuel distinguished himself as a a Puritan Lecturer at Ipswich, after losing a previous living in Suffolk." "Nathaniel went to New England, where he is known as the author of the first code of laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and also as the author of The Simple Cobler of Aggawam. Of "Edward, we know nothing. Probably he died in infancy."

Name

Barbara is named in the diary of her husband, Rev Richard Rogers, and also on his tombstone as his wife, no surname for her is found.[1]
  • Fact: Christening (1552) Haverhill, Suffolk, England
  • Fact: Other (liv abt 1560) of Wethersfield, Essex, England

Children

Children named in Rev Richard Rogers diary are

  1. Ezekiel,
  2. a daughter (probably Mary) and
  3. the death of a son, Nathaniel.[2]
  4. Barbara and Richard Rogers also had a :son Daniel Rogers (elder to the above mentioned children) who attended Cambridge and became a minister.[2]

Barbara and Richard Rogers also had four daughters:

  1. one married a man named Makin,
  2. one married a man named Hasteler or Hasselder - a merchant of Maldon, Essex.[2]
  3. Another daughter, Mary, had two husbands, William Jenkyn and a certain Harsnett.[2]
  4. The fourth daughter may have been the "sister of Ezekiel Rogers who was the mother of Rev Samuel Stone of Hartford, Connecticut", known to be the nephew of Ezekiel.[2]

Richard's Second Wife

After the death of his wife Barbara, Rev Richard Rogers married Susan (Unknown), widow of John Ward, a neighboring minister.[2] She brought the children from her first marriage, Samuel, John, and Nathaniel Ward, and two daughters - names unknown, who married Francis Longe and Samuel Waite (men mentioned in Richard Rogers' will).[2]

Sources

  1. M.M. Knappen and John Cowart, eds, Seeking A Settled Heart_The 16th Century Diary of Puritan Richard Rogers, (2007), pages 39-40 footnotes, citing the Holman Manuscript and the Congregational Magazine II, p 183, (1826)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 Seeking A Settled Heart_The 16th Century Diary of Puritan Richard Rogers, (2007), pages 40-42
  • M.M. Knappen and John Cowart, eds, Seeking A Settled Heart_The 16th Century Diary of Puritan Richard Rogers, (2007), pages 39-40 footnotes, [citing the Holman Manuscript and the Congregational Magazine II, p 183, (1826)], and pages 41-42
  • "Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : modified 11 August 2020, 00:59), entry for Barbara Chandler(PID https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:LYTJ-ZCB); contributed by various users.
  • "Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : modified 10 August 2019, 06:43), entry for Barbara Chandler(PID https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LYTJ-ZCB); contributed by various users.
  • English Origins of New England Families: from the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. First Series in Three Volumes. Volume II. Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1984, pages 360-362
  • Ancestral File Number: 8MK7-8N

Acknowledgements

  • This profile was created through the import of Wilson.ged on 14 September 2010.






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Are 'we' certain that Richard Roger's 2nd wife's LNAB was Chandler? If it was then a merge proposal for Unknown-93909 needs to be made. With no in-line citations I don't know what source is supporting what stated and assumed 'fact'. Additionally, family tree's don't qualify as reliable sources particularly for pre-1700 profiles.
posted by Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
edited by Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear
I aproved the merge dont know very much about the persons as I took over this orphaned profile
posted by [Living Lelieveldt]
Reviewing the case for Barbara wife of Rev Richard Rogers, I find that Living Schmeeckle was correct and I can't find evidence that Barbara was the daughter of John Chandler and Joan Page. I agree with Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear, that "family tree's don't qualify as reliable sources particularly for pre-1700 profiles".

Apologies to John and Leigh for ignoring this issue.

Bob Fields; Ellen Blackwell; Could we create an Unknown profile for Barbara and merge her current Chandler profile into it? I will create it if we have agreement from all here -- or should we put it in G2G? Although it seems clear to me, no evidence is no evidence (don't know why I ignored that in 2018).

Unknown-93909 and Chandler-177 appear to represent the same person because: Both are married to same person.
John, thank you for catching that addition. I'll send a note to the person who added the parents asking for more specifics on the sources given.

A note - this profile currently shows Barbara Unknown born in Wethersfield, Essex, England, however her purported parents lived and died in Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire, England, over 26 miles away - a long trip in 1553.

posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
Wait a minute -- what evidence is there that Barbara, wife of Rev. Richard Rogers, was the daughter of Thomas Chandler? Thomas Chandler did have a daughter Barbara (still unmarried when mentioned in her grandfather's will), but is there any reason to link the Chandler and the Stone families?
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by [Living Schmeeckle]
There appears to be no argument with the Comment that Barbara was about the age of her husband Richard Rogers, and not twenty years older. There appears to be no source for her birth date. I'm changing her birth date from 1533 to 1553, on the logical assumption that the earlier date was a typo.
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
Is the birth date of 1533 for Barbara Unknown a typo? It is not likely that she was nearly two decades older than her husband. Below is an excerpt from his profile:
Richard Rogers was baptized 29 June, 1551, at Moulsham Church, Chelmsford Parish, county Essex, England.[2] He matriculated as a sizar of Christ's College, Cambridge, in November 1565, and graduated B.A. 1571, M.A. 1574.[2] He was appointed lecturer at Wethersfield, Essex, about 1577.[2]

See also his biography at Wikipedia

posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
Unknown-196207 and Unknown-93909 appear to represent the same person because: The biographies make it clear that these 2 profiles represent the same woman. The significant issue is the 1533 birth date listed for U-196207 which is not realistic based on either birth date of husband or daughter.
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by Bob Tonsmeire
The birth date of Rev Richard Rogers is about 1551, estimated from his records at Cambridge University and his records at his parish at Everfield, Essex, England. He attended many meetings with other priests, and he kept a diary. There is no confusion about when he was born.

He had only two wives, this is also known from existing records. Barbara, his first wife and the mother of all his children, was probably born about the same time as Richard, or later - not in 1533. Possibly that is a typo?

I'm asking if one of the profile managers would change her birth date please, and merge her profile with the duplicate Barbara (Unknown-93909) Rogers.

posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
Barbara's husband was born in 1551. They had 3 sons and four daughters together. It is not likely that her birth was nearly twenty years prior to his.
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
Unknown-196207 and Unknown-93909 appear to represent the same person because: they are the same person, Barbara (Unknown), the first wife of Rev Richard Rogers and the mother of all of his (natural) children. (His 2nd wife, Susan, a widow, brought her children to the marriage.)
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
The mother of Daniel Rogers, an elder son, is Barbara (Unknown Rogers. Barbara is mentioned in the diary of her husband Rev Richard Rogers, and her name is inscribed on his tombstone. Her other children are Ezekiel and four daughters, and son Nathaniel who died before his father. All this as per the book Seeking A Settled Heart_The 16th Century Diary of Puritan Richard Rogers, (2007), which I purchased.
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by April (Dellinger) Dauenhauer
This can't be right. If she had a daughter about 1580, she cannot have died in 1548.
posted on Unknown-93909 (merged) by Kenneth Kinman

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