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John Christie (1818 - 1898)

John Christie
Born in Dalston, Cumberland, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died at about age 80 in Carlisle, Cumberland, Englandmap
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England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: John Christy Gender: Male Spouse: Sarah Child: Daniel Christy

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Census

Census: Date: 1851 Place: Botchergate Cumberland Note: Name: John Christie Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Botchergate County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 21 Mata street Occupation: Cotton Spinner Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: Wetheral ED, institution, or vessel: 8g Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age John Christie 34 Sarah Christie 36 Thomas Christie 4

John Christie abt 1817 Dalston, Cumberland, England Head Botchergate Cumberland Sarah Christie abt 1815 Dalston, Cumberland, England Wife Botchergate Cumberland Thomas Christie abt 1847 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland

Census: Date: 1861 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: 1861 Name: John Christie Age: 44 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Father's name: Paul Gender: Male Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Botchergate Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 1 Fodeus Court Occupation: Cotton Spinner Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 114 Household Members: Name Age John Christie 44 Paul Christie 7 Paul Christie 76 (retired) Sarah Christie 46 Thomas Christie 14 William Christie 9

John Christie abt 1817 Dalston, Cumberland, England Head Botchergate Cumberland Paul Christie abt 1785 Dalston, Cumberland, England Father Botchergate Cumberland Paul Christie abt 1854 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland Sarah Christie abt 1815 Dalston, Cumberland, England Wife Botchergate Cumberland Thomas Christie abt 1847 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland William Christie abt 1852 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland

Census: Date: 1871 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: Name: John Christie Age: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Botchergate Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: 4 Hewson Street Occupation: Commission Agent Condition as to marriage: married Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 142

Household Members: Name Age John Christie 53 (commission agent) Sarah Christie 55 Paul Christie 15 Printer (machine) William Christie 17 (Inspector on North British Rail)

John Christie abt 1818 Dalston, Cumberland, England Head Botchergate Cumberland Sarah Christie abt 1816 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Wife Botchergate Cumberland Paul Christie abt 1856 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland William Christie abt 1852 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Son Botchergate Cumberland

Census: Date: 1881 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: Name: John Christy Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1816 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England Civil parish: St Cuthbert Without Botchergate County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: "fusehill Workhouse" Fusehill Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Cotton Spinner Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: Fusehill Workhouse

John Christy abt 1816 Dalston, Cumberland, England Inmate "Fusehill Workhouse" Fusehill, St Cuthbert W/O - Botchergate, Cumberland, England

Census: Date: 1891 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: Name: John Christie Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Dalston, Cumberland, England Civil parish: St Cuthberts Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street address: Occupation: Cotton Spinner Condition as to marriage: Widowed Registration district: Carlisle Sub-registration district: St Cuthbert ED, institution, or vessel: Fusehill Workhouse

Event: The Fusehill Street Workhouse Type: general information Date: 1863 Place: Harraby Hill Note: The Fusehill Street Workhouse In 1863, the union erected a new purpose-built workhouse on Fusehill Street in Carlisle. After the new building was opened, St Cuthbert's workhouse at Harraby Hill was kept in use for the accommodation of children, while St Mary's and Caldewgate were disposed of. St Mary's later becoming Brown's Laundry and Dye Works, now demolished. Caldewgate later became St Mary's Home for Friendless Girls and was subsequently converted to private housing.

The design of the new workhouse was opened to competition and attracted fifteen entries. The winning entry was designed by Henry F Lockwood and William Mawson of Bradford who were the architects of other workhouses in the north of England including those at Barnsley, Bradford, Dewsbury, Haslingden, North Bierley, and Penistone.. The new Carlisle workhouse accommodated 478 inmates and cost £11,195.15s. Its location and layout can be seen on the 1901 OS map b

Fusehill served as a military hospital during both World Wars. During the 1920s was known as Fusehill House Poor Law Institution then in 1930 was renamed Fusehill House Public Assistance Institution. With the introduction of the National Health Service in 1948 it became the City General Hospital, with the former workhouse infirmary becoming the City Maternity Hospital.

Following the closure of the hospital in the 1990s, the site is now occupied by St Martin's College.

Death Date: 1898 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: Name: Christie, John Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 81 Quarter: March Year: 1898 District: Carlisle County: Cumbria Cumberland

Occupation

Occupation: this info was given to me by David Potter Date: 1871-1881 Place: Cumbria, Cumberland, England Note: In 1871 John Christie was described as a commission agent, his son Paul as a Printer and William as a Cotton Warper. In the 1881 census John was living in Carlisle work house and is stated as Married. His wife Sarah was not living with him but was with her granddaughter Elizabeth aged 11 yrs. In 1891 John is still in the workhouse but clearly Sarah has died because John is stated as a 'Widower' Seems to me as if the family fell on hard times as suggested earlier due to collapse of the weaving trade.

Below is a menu of the food served in the workhouses. Life in the workhouses was quite grim,with a poor diet which matches that described by Charles Dickens in 'David Copperfield' This is the actual menu that John would have had in Carlisle.

DAY BREAKFAST LUNCH SUPPER Sunday Milk pudding with flour Beef broth with bread Bread and broth Monday ditto Potatoes,milk,bread Milk pudding and bread Tuesday ditto Boiled milk and bread Milk pudding with flour Wednesday ditto Beef broth with bread Bread and broth Thursday ditto Potatoes,milk,bread Milk pudding and bread Friday ditto 2 slices beef with soup Bread and broth Saturday ditto Boiled milk and bread Bread and cheese No wonder mortality was high





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