Hawise (Clare) de Say (abt. 1184 - aft. 1235)

Born about 1184 in England [uncertain]

Ancestors

Wife of Geoffrey (Say) de Say — married before 1215 in England

Descendants

Died after 1235 after about age 51 in England [uncertain]

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Hawise de Clare is in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to her father, surety baron Richard de Clare (see text below).

Biography

Hawise de Clare was the daughter of Magna Carta surety baron Richard de Clare, Knt., 3rd Earl of Hertford (styled Earl of Clare) and Amice of Gloucester.^[1][2] Her date and place of birth are unknown and are estimated.

She married Magna Carta surety baron Geoffrey de Say, Knt.,^[2] before 1215.^[1][3] They had three sons:

• William, Knt., son and heir, born before 1209 (of age in 1230), died before 12 February 1271/2, married first to Sibyl ____ (said to be daughter of John Marshal) and second to Mary ____^[1]
• Geoffrey, was living 14 October 1246^[1]
• John, Knt., adult by 1242/3, married before 1242/3 to ____ de Wauton, daughter and heiress of John de Wauton^[1]

Her husband, Geoffrey de Say, died while serving in Poitou on 19 August 1230 and was buried at the Hospital of St. Mary in Dover, Kent.^[1] About 1235, she and her son William jointly issued a deed regarding property in Edmonton, Middlesex.^[1][4] This seems to be the only known record explicitly identifying the wife of Geoffrey de Say, the Magna Carta surety, though it has also been noted that Geoffrey held land of the Earl of Clare in free-marriage.^[4] Hawise's date and place of death are unknown.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011, vol. III, pages 495-497 SAY 1.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry, 2011, vol. I, page 449 CLARE 1.vi.
3. ↑ Complete Peerage does not list this marriage, it has conflated Geoffrey with both his father and his half-brother and so does Burke's Peerage and some other secondary sources.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Gen-Medieval Archives - 1 Nov 2007 posting of Douglas Richardson re: Complete Peerage Addition: Hawise de Clare, wife of Geoffrey de Say, Magna Carta Baron (quoted on Geoffrey's profile page)

• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011). See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013). See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
• Lewis, Marlyn. Hawise de Clare entry in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins website, accessed 8 Mar 2020: est DOB 1184.

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Hawise de Clare was the daughter of a Magna Carta surety, the sister of another, and the wife of another. She and her husband were the ancestors of about 38 pre-1700 Colonial gateways.

Hawise de Clare is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare in badged trails to the following Gateway Ancestors:

• Dorothy Beresford: trail was badged in 2015 and re-reviewed 7 Mar 2020. See the trails HERE.
• Essex Beville (MCA I:192-196 BEVILLE): trail was badged in November 2015 and can be viewed HERE.
• Thomas Lunsford: trail badged Feb 2015. See trail HERE.

Hawise also appears in unbadged trails (needing work) to the following Gateways:

• Kempe Gateways (Richard, Edward, Edmund and Matthew): trail not yet developed and can be viewed HERE.

See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".