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Maud (Unknown) de Clifford (abt. 1219 - bef. 1272)

Maud de Clifford formerly [surname unknown] aka de Gournay
Born about in Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married after Jan 1234 [location unknown]
Wife of — married 1242 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 53 in Aconbury, Herefordshire, Englandmap
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Contents

Biography

Birth and Parents

Maud's birth, birth place and parents are not known. [1]

Birth Year Estimation

Ancestry.com's One world Tree estimates her birth as 1219 [2]

He first known child Juliane was born som years before 1238, say 1235. If she was aged 15 at the time, she was born, say, 1220.

Marriage to Hugh de Gournay

Maud married Hugh de Gournay and had one daughter, Juliane. [1]

Marriage to Roger de Clifford

Maud married Roger de Clifford, as his first wife, following the death of Hugh de Gournay shortly before 23 July 1238. They had one son, Roger.[1]

Death and Burial

Maud was living in 1255 but died prior to 1272. [1]

Maud, wife of (1) Hugh de Gournay and (2) Roger de Clifford, was buried at John the Baptist Church, Aconbury, Herefordshire. Also known as Aconbury Priory.

The following data on her burial was provided to Alton Rogers in March 2008 by the kindness of Hereford Chronicle publisher Mr. Michael Owen: In an attachment about the Churches of Herefordshire, under St. John the Baptist in Aconbury, it states: "In a tomb recess c.1300 inside is a coffin lid with an incised floriated cross and an inscription of Lombardic letters to Maud de Gerney (Gournay), wife of Roger Clifford."

St. John the Baptist Church in Aconbury is historically famous with its connection to the Mortimer and Geneville families. In the 13th century the grandparents of Joan de Geneville, future wife of Roger de Mortimer, executed in 1330, settled on her their fortune as heiress of the Geneville lands in England, Wales and Ireland. And placed her two younger sisters, Beatrice and Maud, as nuns in Aconbury Priory. From the book "The Greatest Traitor" by Ian Mortmer, about Roger de Mortimer's upkeep of his wife's two sisters in Aconbury: " ...his occasional small gifts to her sister's nunnery, Aconbury Priory..."

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. By the Author: Salt Lake City, Utah, 2013. Vol III, p. 96 GOURNAY
  2. Ancestry.com. One World Tree.




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Clifford-256 and Unknown-277698 appear to represent the same person because: Clifford-256 is unsourced and unconnected and reflects no known person. It is most likely a mistaken version of Unknown-277698, with which it shoulds be merged.
posted by Jack Day
Regarding:

"In a tomb recess c.1300 inside is a coffin lid with an incised floriated cross and an inscription of Lombardic letters to Maud de Gerney (Gournay), wife of Roger Clifford."

Is this some piece of (or homage to) Mahaut (Maude) de COURTENEY, Contessa di LORETTO probably AKA the perplexing Comtesse de LAURETANIA? Perhaps daughter of Raoul de Courteney, Conte di CHIETI by his wife ALIX NN; and in addition to Clifford, sometime wife of Philippe de DAMPIERRE, Conte di CHEANO?

See also: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/asLgyC8yX2Q

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
This profile is a garble of Clifford's two wives. Given her children and their birth years/timing, this is Hawise (Avicia) de Boteller:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Clifford,_Roger_de_(d.1285%3F)

That source speculates ("probably") Clifford married first Hawise de Boteller, and then when she died (from memory about 1269) he soon remarried in France to NN Countess of Loretto. Which was garbled as Lorraine/Laurentina in later secondary sources. Hawise de Boteller herself was on her second marriage; her first being Hugh VI de Gournay.

According to one faction on this thread...

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/asLgyC8yX2Q ...the second wife is Mahaut de Courteney (daughter of Raoul (Ralph)) eventually remarried to Dampierre. So there are (at least) three husbands married to two wives, like this:

Hugh de Gournay =m1 Hawise de Boteller m2= Roger de Clifford m1= Maud de Courteney m2= Philippe de Dampierre

In this case, on WikiTree, we have probably pasted the Maud name onto Hawise. These two children presumably belong to Hawise because their birthdates predate their father's first wife's (ie their mother's) death.

Or, perhaps new primary-source evidence or reputable scholarship has emerged which invalidates the bio and SGM thread linked above?

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor

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