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Henry Cobb

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Elder Henry "the elder" Cobb
Born about in possibly Egerton, Cheriton or Southwark/ Kent, Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married to before in Englandmap
Husband of — married to before in by Mr Prince/ Barnstable, Barnstable County, MA, USAmap
Died in Barnstable, Barnstable County, MA, USAmap
Last profile change on 26 July 2014
15:42: Larry Chesebro' edited the Status Indicators for Henry Cobb. (Removed father - there is no known father for Henry, the Elder as my Biography states!) [Thank Larry for this]
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Contents

Biography

  • Rev Henry Cobb I, The Elder ... [1]
  • Marriage: Husband: Henry Cobb Wife: @I2462@ Marriage: Date: 12 DEC 1649 Place: Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts[8]
  • Burial: Old Barnstable Cemetery/ Barnstable County, MA, USA
  • Immigration: 1629, in the "Anne" to Plymouth, Plymouth County, MA, USA
  • Occupation: 05 Jun 1644, tavern keeper licensed to draw wine at Barnstable
  • Religion: 08 Jan 1634/35, member #7 at the founding of Scituate Church
  • Will: 04 Apr 1673, proved June 3, 1679, codicil 22 Feb 1678, Plymouth County, MA, USA

Notes

1.The Rev. Royston W Cole, Vicar of Reculver and Herne Bay, Kent, Jul 1936 wrote to Oliver Ellsworth Cobb:

"The following appears in the old register of St Mary's Church, Reculver. Anderson, son of Henry Cobb, Baptized 24th of May, 1612. Henry, son of Henry Cobb, was Baptized 2nd day of May, 1615, etc."

Oliver noted in his book that this Henry, baptized in 1615, may be the one who came to America.

However, the baptism record should be added to many other records showing the "preponderance of the evidence" is that Henry "The Elder" did not come from Reculver, Kent, England.

The following excerpts of e-mails from one of the most respected current Cobb researchers, Hubert F Cobb, provides more of the "preponderance of the evidence" that Henry "The Elder" did not come from the Reculver Cobb family:

"There has been much speculation and confusion about the parents and ancestry of Elder Henry Cob. I have spent over ten years researching his ancestry with the help of several Cobb’s in England in recent years.......Savage the historian says Henry 'had been of Plymouth about 1629'. This is supported by the church records that say several persons arrived in 1629, some of whom had been in Mr Laythrops (Lothrop) Church in England. Most of us know of the close association Henry had with Rev. Lothrop, both here and in England." "The fact that Dean in his history of Scituate says he was one of the "men of Kent" and that Rev. John Lothrop preached in Kent plus his association with other men of Kent seems to indicate that he probably was from Kent."

The following is a "write-up" Hubert published in an attempt to help eliminate mis-information about Henry "The Elder" (some punctuation changes have been made for this note):

Elder Henry Cob Of Plymouth, Scituate and Barnstable, MA By: Hubert F. Cobb 66 Campbell Shore Rd. Gray, ME 04039 2004 There has been much speculation and confusion about the parents and ancestry of Elder Henry Cob. I have spent over ten years researching his ancestry with the help of several Cobb’s in England in recent years. The first question we need to ask: is he really from Co. Kent, England? Before we try to answer that we will look at a little history of Henry. When did he come to Plymouth? Savage the historian says Henry "had been of Plymouth about 1629." This is supported by the church records that say several persons arrived in 1629, some of whom had been in Mr Laythrops (Lothrop) Church in England. Most of us know of the close association Henry had with Rev. Lothrop, both here and in England. In Nathaniel Morton’s "History of the Plymouth Church 1620-1680" is the following paragraph discussing streghtening (sic) the colony with a new group of immigrants: "In Anno 1629 a Considerable Number of the bretheren of the Church which were le[ft] in Holland were Transported ouer to vs that were of the Church in New England which although it was att About 500lb charge yet it was bourne Chearfully by the poor bretheren heer Concerned in It; alsoe about that time seuerall Godly prsons; some wherof had bin of mr Laythrops Church in England and others alsoe Came to vs out of England; so wee becaime through the Goodnes of God pretty Numerous and were in the best estate Respecting the Church that wee had as yet bine in New England." (Also see NEHGS New England Ancestors, Fall 2003, Vol 4, No. 4, pg. 28). The fact that Dean in his history of Scituate says he was one of the "men of Kent" and that Rev. John Lothrop preached in Kent plus his association with other men of Kent seems to indicate that he probably was from Kent. In a book "Early English Dissenters" by Champlin Burrage is the following which is also interesting: "After Jacobs departure the congregation managed as best it could without a pastor until about 1624, when John Lathrop, who had formerly been a Puritan preacher at Cheriton in Kent [just outside Folkestone and about 8 or 9 miles from Romney Marsh or Cobb’s Court], and who evidently was still an Independent Puritan, joined the church. He was chosen pastor in 1625." Did Elder Henry meet the Rev. in Cheriton and live somewhere around that area? We now have three areas where they could have met, Egerton, Cheriton or Southwark. Note: 10 Feb. 2007- I am not so sure of the above as Rev. John Lothrop was still Bapt. children in Eastwell, Co. Kent in 1626- hfc. Some of the sources of information on Henry Cob are listed below: Amos Otis, of Yarmouth, MA- historical papers published in the Barnstable Patriot. Deane’s History of Scituate. Rev. John Lothrop’s Church Records in Scituate and Barnstable, MA. He was at first a pastor of the established Church of England at Egerton, Co. Kent. There are other sources of information on Elder Henry and maybe we can look at those at another time. There have been several genealogies published on the Cobb lines. The following are some of the better known ones: "The Cobbs of Tennesseee" by Cully A. Cobb, Ruralist Press, Inc., Atlanta, GA 1968 Mrs. Ethel M. A. Curtis of La Verne, CA is the one that made the connection of Ambrose Cobb to Kent and Cully hired Mr. Arthur J. Willis to prove the connection into the Cobb family in Kent. This Ambrose Cobb that was the emigrant was the son of Ambrose Shown on page 151 of Berry’s Cobb Pedigree of Co. Kent. "A History of the Cobb Family" by Philip L. Cobb, Cleveland, OH 1907 This book was not completed as though he died before it was published. I suspect the missing information is in his manuscript files at Western Reserve Historical Society, Cleveland, OH. It has a lot of information on Henry Cob and his descendants and most seems quite good. He also has a genealogy on Thomas Cobb of Boston, MA. This was Philip’s line. "The "Blacksmith Cobbs of Corfe Castle, Dorset, England" by Duane Philips Cobb, 1981. This is part of the Taunton, MA Cobb line. "Cobb Chronicles" an overview of the clan by Col. John E. Cobb, Durant Publishers, Alexandria, VA 1985 "Early History and Genealogy of the Cobb Family in New England" by Isaac Cobb (1825-1890) of Gorham-Portland, Maine. This is an unpublished genealogy of Elder Henry Cob’s descendants and a very good one at that. The original is at the Maine Historical Society in Portland, ME. There are copies at several libraries’ in New England. There has been quite a lot of research done in Co. Kent, England on the "Cobb’s in Kent" by others and myself in the US and as noted above several Cobb’s in England. There is far too much data to present at this time. I have put together a genealogy of the Cobb’s in Kent with what data we could find. How accurate it is we do not know at this time. Two pedigrees of the Cobb line in Kent have been very helpful in sorting out the families as has Hasteds History of Kent. The two pedigrees are "The Pedigrees of the families in the County of Kent" by William Berry, London, 1830, and the Cobb Pedigree at the College of Arms by Ralphe Brooke, York Herald, 1607. As Chris Cobb of our Cobb DNA project points out Ralphe Brooke was quite a scoundrel and may have made up part of the pedigree. Probably the only way we will sort this out is with the Cobb DNA project. I also went to Canterbury Cathedral where I found another Cobb pedigree.


It would appear the confusion on Elder Henry Cob’s parents came from the "Cobb Chronicles" by Col. John E. Cobb. On page 26 we find the following paragraph: It is very probable that immigrants Henry Cobb of Plymouth and Ambrose Cobb of the Virginia Colony were of the same Kent Family, i.e., they shared a common progenitor in John Cobb, Esquire (b. ca 1300) of Cobb’s Court, Romney, Kent. The suggested (but undocumented) relationships shown in pedigrees is based primarily on the association of family names, locations and dates. In 1999 I proved with Will’s that Elder Henry Cob was not the son of Henry Cobb of Reculver, Co. Kent. With the data from the Cobb DNA project we now know that Henry Cob and Ambrose Cobb are not related thus proving I was right. Ambrose is a descendant of the Reculver Cobb’s. The DNA project also shows there are two distinct Cobb lines in Kent (maybe more). Many seem to think Cobb’s place (or also called Cobb’s Court) was in Reculver, which is in the northern part of Co. Kent. It was located in Newchurch in the Romney Marsh area of southern Co. Kent. I hope this will help clear up some of the misinformation we see on the Internet about Henry Cob.


2. Henry apparently was brought up in the Church of England, and in his young manhood, because of the wrongs tolerated in that Church, broke away from the Establishment and joined the Pilgrims. He is said to have united with a Congregational Church in London, of which the Rev. John LOTHROPP, Sr, The Pioneer, was then pastor. Henry probably came to America in "The Anne" in 1629. He moved to Scituate, MA, in 1633, and from there to Barnstable, MA, in 1639. He was Deacon or Ruling Elder in Scituate and Barnstable for 34 years. He also held various civil offices, among them the Deputy to the General Court of the Colony for several years. Henry and his 2 wives had 16 children, 3 born in Plymouth, 2 in Scituate and 11 in Barnstable.

3. Enoch Taylor Cobb, Henry's 3rd great-grandson, erected a stone to the memory of Henry in the old Barnstable Cemetery in 1871 with the following inscription:

ELDER HENRY COBB THE ANCESTOR OF THE COBB FAMILY IN, USA BARNSTABLE DIED IN 1679 ______ ERECTED BY ENOCH T. COBB A DESCENDANT IN 1871.

4. Henry's will names sons John, James, Gershom and Eleazer to whom he had previously given "half my Lands at Suconeesset. Alson names were son Jonathon and daughters Mary, Hannah, Patience and Sarah. The will includes "Great Lott of Land in Barnstable" to his son James who paid his older brother 5£ for his interest, to his wife Sarah "new dwelling house" and the remainder of his "Lands both upland and meadow." The original will gave the "dwelling house" to his son Samuel upon the death of Sarah but the codicil changed the recipient to be his son Henry.

Editing Note: The parent fields on this profile should be left blank. Therefore I am removing Henry Cobb from the profile top. Nally-4 20:27, 2 July 2014 (EDT)

Sources

  • Phillip L. Cobb, History of the Cobb Family, (Cleveland, 1907). [2]
  • Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration Begins, The, (NEHGS, Boston, 1995), Vol 1, pages 392-395. [3]
  • Richard Anson Wheeler, History of Stonington, Connecticut, 1649 - 1900, (New London, CT, USA, Press of The Day Publishing Company, 1900), page 429. [4]
  • Oliver Ellsworth Cobb, The Cobbs of Stonington, Their Antecedents and Descendants with Allied Families, (1885, revised by Henry Evertson Cobb 1934), pages 1 - 10. [5]
  • Hubert F Cobb, Cobb (Hubert) Family Records, (Apr 2007). HFCobb@securespeed.us, 66 Campbell Shore, Road, Gray, ME 04039 [6]
  • New England Historic Genealogical Society, "New England Ancestors (NEHGS)," Established 1845: Winter 2005, Vol 5, Number 1 article by Hubert F Cobb. [7]
* Roser Susan E, Early Descendants of Henry Cobb of Barnstable, MA, Stewart Publishing and Printing, Markham, ON, Canada, 2008.


Footnotes

  1. Entered by Lawrence 'Larry' Chesebro', Friday, August 16, 2013.
  2. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net
  3. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net
  4. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net
  5. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net
  6. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net
  7. Entered by Larry Chesebro'. http://chesebro.net

Acknowledgments

  • Thanks to Larry Chesebro' for Starting, adopting, correcting or adding to this profile and/or merging it with other profiles of the same person.
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Contributors


Merging Notes: Cobb-37 well documented Template for "date guess" removed during merging. Parents from Cobb-3334: Henry Cobb and Pleasance Reddwood. No source given to document them.








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Collaboration

On July 8, 2014 Jillaine Smith wrote:

For future reference, Larry Chesebro's own profile of Henry Cobb is here:


On July 3, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

When we do not have agreement on the identity of the parents, WikiTree policy is to leave the parents' field at the top of the profile empty, and discuss the possible parents in the bio section.


On July 2, 2014 Morag M wrote:

Susan Roser states that having his father as Henry Cobb is unproven . Can wed elite what John Rounds has added? He seems to have no references for the change he made. Morag M-547


On June 15, 2014 Morag M wrote:

Susan Roser agrees he was born in Kent but estimates his birth date at ca 1605-1610 because of the birthdates of his first and last child. neither Mehitable nor Ephraim/Experience are mentioned in his 1673 will. Aunt Mehitable is mentioned in the 1742 will of her brother Samuel's son, Thomas Cobb.


On May 31, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

Nickname for Henry Cobb "the elder" meaning there were two men named Henry Cobb living in the same area. This one was older.


On May 31, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

Titles for Henry Cobb:

Elder is appropriate. It is a church title. In the 1600's in the independent churches, "Elders" were elected by congregational vote. Not the same as Rev., which implies ordination.


On May 30, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

There is a list of the 13 profiles merged together to make this one of Henry Cobb. This list has been saved off line.

Jamie Swindells contributed the first profile.

As described in the profile, Larry Chesebro' contributed years of careful research to the biography of Henry Cobb.


On March 18, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

Continuation of previous comment - from a "PM"

his Son Eleazer born About 30 March 1648 patience his Wife buried 4 of May 1648 Henry Cob & Sarah Hinkley Married 12 of Decem:1649 his Daughter Mehitable born 1 Sep 1651 & buried 8th of March 1652 his Son Samuel born 12 October 1654 & Died 7 pf December 1727 Et: 74. his Daughter Sarah born 15 January 1658 & buried 25 January 1658 his Son Jonathan born 10 of April 1660 his Daughter Sarah born 10 of March 1662/3 his Son Henry born 3 of Sept:1665 his Daughter Mehitable 15 Feb:1667 his Daughter Experience 11 Sept 1671"George Ernest Bowman, Mayflower Descendant, "Barnstable, MA, Vital Records," Vol.3:63, citing BVR 1:399


On March 18, 2014 Becky Syphers wrote:

The following was sent via the private messaging system on WikiTree.com.

Hi Becky, Didn't know if you'd want this transcription to go along with the Henry Cobb info you've got... "mr Henery Cobb his son John Borne Att Plymouth the 7th of June 1632 his son James borne att Plymouth the 14th of January 1634George Ernest Bowman, Mayflower Descendant,, Vol. 18:198, citing Plymouth Colony Records -- The births of ye Children of Henry cob his son John born at Plymoth 7 of Jun 1632 his son James born at Plymoth 14 of January 1634 his Daughter Mary born at Situate 24 of March 1637 his Daughter Hannah born at Situate 5 Octor 1639 at Barnstable his Daughter Patience born About 15 of March 1641 his Son Gershom born About 10 January 1644 his Son Eleazer born About 30 March 1648


On November 15, 2012 Jillaine Smith wrote:

becky do you want help with these merges? if so, give me a few childrens' names and I'll help out. It would help if you also added me to the trusted list.


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