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Frithesand (Scoteni) de Willoughby (abt. 1195 - 1260)

Frithesand (Fridesand) de Willoughby formerly Scoteni
Born about in Stainton le Vale, Lincolnshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of and [mother unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 65 [location unknown]
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Profile last modified | Created 26 Feb 2012
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Biography

She was one of the 3 co-heiresses of William de Scoteni who died 1232 and had held the barony of Stainton-le-Vale, Lincolnshire, England.

Her first husband Hugh de Willoughby died before 1227.

Her second husband was Walter de Killingholm, who she had married by 1232.

Inquisition Post Mortem

442.[1] Lady Frethesancia alias Frendesancia de Scoteny.
Writ, 1 Sept. 43 Hen. III. Inq. (undated.)
William, son of Hugh de Wyleby, of full age, is her heir.
[Lincoln.] Cumberworth town, 1½ knights' fee and ⅓ of ½ knight's fee held of the king in chief.
Torp manor, held of Sir Hugh Bygot by service of 1/7 knight's fee.
Foletteby,⅓ knight's fee held of Sir Richard de Arynton.

Research Notes

There is widespread confusion because of Dugdale's 17th century attempt to reconstruct the family. According to him, after Lambert Scoteny died his heirs were two sisters, Bertha and Aumaris.[2] Dugdale was apparently uncertain of the exact descent from Lambert to Fredescancia, and apparently believed there were two Fredescancias.

However, as explained by Sanders:[3]

  • Bertha was the mother of Lambert, and probably Lambert's main inheritance came from her. So she may have held possession after he died, but not as an heiress.
  • Lambert's heirs were the two daughters of his brother Walter, grand-daughters of Bertha.
  • Fredescancia de Scoteni was a coheiress and grand-daughter of one of these grand-daughters of Bertha.
  • Instead of there being two Fredescancias, she simply had two husbands, Hugh de Willoughby and then Walter de Killingholm.

Sources

  1. 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry III, File 22', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 1, Henry III, ed. J E E S Sharp (London, 1904), pp. 118-122. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol1/pp118-122 [accessed 4 November 2020].
  2. Dugdale, "Scoteni", Baronage, Vol.1 p.676. Checked against off-line scan by [Lancaster-1259|Andrew Lancaster].
  3. Sanders, English Baronies, p.82




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I think I've done the most important steps now. This profile's two husbands now need merging and her LNAB should be Scoteny or Scoteni.
posted on Cockerington-3 (merged) by Andrew Lancaster
Proposal (also see other linked profiles):

1. Keep her connected to Hugh Willoughby as spouse (who I propose to merge with his grandson), but disconnect from everyone else. She is in the wrong generation. <strike>2. Change LNAB to Criol. She married into the Scoteny family.</strike>

I will add sourced notes in the form of a Research section which can help support the finished article.

posted on Cockerington-3 (merged) by Andrew Lancaster
edited by Andrew Lancaster
Does anyone know of any sources for this person as currently shown in Wikitree? There might be some confusions. There was a person with a similar name, husband named Hugh, son named William, and Scoteni ancestry. But her Hugh is currently the grandson of this one's husband.

The son we have given her is also said by Complete Peerage to have unknown parents.

Probably this profile is based upon something like this old book: https://books.google.be/books?id=igsjxZtKmJkC&pg=PA559 (Collins)

But that disagrees with modern scholars.

I think such accounts are all based on Dugdale https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A36794.0001.001/1:6.266?rgn=div2;submit=Go;subview=detail;type=simple;view=fulltext;q1=scoteni

Here is another one based on his https://books.google.be/books?id=JPw-AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA170 (Banks)

You can see the original explanation by Dugdale was closer to modern scholarship than what Wikitree has. Cockerington was not a surname, just a manor

posted on Cockerington-3 (merged) by Andrew Lancaster
edited by Andrew Lancaster
Cockerington-1 and Cockerington-3 appear to represent the same person because: Information in Tudor place says Hugh is the husband Shirley
posted on Cockerington-3 (merged) by [Living Baines]

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