John Collins (abt. 1740 - abt. 1816)

Born about 1740 in Orange, Virginia

Ancestors

Descendants

Died about 1816 at about age 76 in South Elkhorn, Fayette, Kentucky, United States

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• Profile Represents John Collins (1740-1816) m Jemima Barne/Bowen (son of John Collins (1670 - 1695 ) and Catherine Crutcher
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No original source records have been located to confirm birth or marriage records. It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information surrounding the Collins Family of Essex – Many Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of Collin’s with the same names, etc. Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable /unproven unless sources are contained within).

Discrepancy

TBD Edwards-7481 08:32, 16 October 2021 (UTC) sons Richard and John See also Crutcher-140

• Date Discrepancies (Pruitt) 1700 vs Children Estimated Births 1770-1795
• Individual Sons' data appears Stable - Although Parent attachment Date

conflicts; likely parent birth s/b 1690-1725) and may be due to a missing generation; which may require parent adjustment if sourcing can be located.

• (original) Mis-attachment to parent John m Cook Sisters

Contemporary John's [via Pruitt }

Collins-3514 John m Unknown and Catherine Crutcher (1670) s/b son (A25) (This Crutcher is a 2nd spouse Reportedly john is the son of 1st Unknown spouse see notes at Crutcher-140 (Merge)

• Collins-9127 John (Est abt 1740 - vs Pruitt indicates 1700) m Jemima Barnes/Bowen (1750); John's brother s/b Richard]] (of Scott Co KY Collins-1815 m Contemporary Gatewood vs Richard of Muddy Creek (Silver Creek, Madison) m also Gatewood)

Oliver's son s/b s/b [[Collins-3514 |john (1670 - 1695) m 2nd Crutcher (1740) (Death in 1795 is at odds with son birth of 1700)

Cook's (1710 - 1793) son s/b John (1746) m Contemporary Crutcher/Critcher (dau of Thomas vs Henry or William Crutcher)

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Biography

John Collins son of John Collins and Catherine Crutcher (vs John Collins and Cook Sisters)

Birth Estimate 1730-1740 Virginia (vs 1700)

Marriage

Marriage Estimate 1760 -1770 -- Jemima (LNAB unproven/(DAR supports Bowen) Bowen/Barne/possibly Bowman^[1]

Death

Death Estimate 1816 South Elkhorn, Fayette, Kentucky^[2]

Location Estimate (likely Orange ) Virginia - Fayette, Kentucky

Children

10 Identified Children Estimated Births 1770-1795

• William (1770--1860)
• John A (1772 - 1846) m Mourning Willhoite^[3]
• Asa (Acy) (1774;-1765)
• Susannah (Susan) (1778;- 1872; m. James Price and Richard Matthews^[4]
• Lewis (1780-1852) m Sarah E. (Sallie) Cleveland^[4][5]
• Whitfield Collins (1782 - 1871) m Sarah Allen^[6]
• Uriah (1784-1874 m Abigail ‘alley” Lasswell^[7]
• Margaret Levina Collins (1780 - 1816) m John R Florea^[8]
• Hackney ("Sidney") 1790-1816) m John Hackney^[9]
• Thomas Collins (1792 - 1847) m Mary Cleveland^[4]

Timeline

Source History and Genealogy of The Collins Family, by Nora Collins,1940 Internet Archives Digital Copy p1-7 (sourced Orange VA Deed Book 20 p 327)

John was born about 1740. He died about 1816. Fayette KY

• DAR Ancestor #A024508 [1]

John Collins, said to have been in the Battle of Bunker Hill (June 17, 1775) during the Revolutionary War,

His wife Jemima, with their family, came to Kentucky about 1787 or 1788, passing over the Alleghanies, and continuing down the Ohio river by flat boat; thru to Central Kentucky, thru Lexington which then consisted of only a few log cabins, and settled on South Elkhorn in Fayette County KY, near where the town of the same name was built. There they leased 200 acres from Col. Bowman, who owned a great tract.^[10]

Notes for JOHN COLLINS: p 76; (214-216 p 107-108]; Source Broderbund's WFT Vol. # 32 Tree # 0010.

Children of JOHN COLLINS and JEMINA BARNE are:

i. WILLIAM S. COLLINS, b. 1770; d. Bet. 1771 - 1860. ii. JOHN COLLINS, b. 1772, Orange County, Virginia; d. February 28, 1846, South Elkhorn, Kentucky.()214.) iii. ASA "ACY" COLLINS, b. 1774; d. Bet. 1775 - 1864. iv. SUSANNAH "SUSAN" COLLINS, b. March 24, 1778; d. Bet. 1779 - 1872; m. RICHARD MATTHEWS. v. LEWIS COLLINS, b. February 17, 1780; d. March 22, 1852, Kentucky. vi. WHITFIELD COLLINS, b. April 16, 1782, Orange County, Virginia; d. February 18, 1871, Harrison County, Kentucky. (215). vii. URIAH COLLINS, b. 1784; d. Bet. 1785 - 1874. viii. MARY LOVINA "LEVINA" COLLINS, b. 1786; d. Bet. 1787 - 1880. ix. HACKNEY "SIDNEY" COLLINS, b. 1790; d. 1816, Woodford County, Kentucky.; Burial: Near Versaills, Kentucky x. THOMAS COLLINS, b. June 16, 1792, Jassamine County, Kentucky; d. March 28, 1847, Jassamine County, Kentucky.(216)

Sources

Links are provided for reference and convenience only (and are considered unreliable /unproven unless sources are contained within). ^[11]

List of FHC Books by Herbert Ridgeway Collins

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1. ↑ wife Jemima, with their family, came to Kentucky about 1787 or 1788 Letter to Marvel Snead dated March 31, 1981 from John M Willhite Ft. Myers, FL.;
2. ↑ Reportedly from Bible Misc Collins info By Jackie Foster December 20, 2005
3. ↑ "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKJS-XP2P : 9 March 2021), John Collins and Muring Wethile, 23 Dec 1793; citing Marriage, Woodford, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 252,322.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} A Grave Memoria 207747935 "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Z5P9-7Y2M : 7 August 2020), Susan Collins Matthews, ; Burial, Keene, Jessamine, Kentucky, United States of America, Cleveland-Collins Cemetery; citing record ID 207747935, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.,
5. ↑ "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2QD-3F64 : 22 July 2021), Lewis Collins and Sally Cleveland, 11 Sep 1809; citing Marriage, , Franklin, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 266,194.
6. ↑ "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M65W-55G : 19 December 2020), Whitfield Collins, Harrison, Kentucky, United States; citing family , NARA microfilm publication (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
7. ↑ "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q28D-XXZN : 22 July 2021), Uriah Collins and Alley Laswell, 27 Sep 1809; citing Marriage, Jessamine, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 183,359.
8. ↑ "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG1D-Y6VQ : 9 March 2021), John Collins in entry for John Flory and Levina Collins, 25 Dec 1804; citing Marriage, Fayette, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 8,998.
9. ↑ "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG1D-Y7GH : 9 March 2021), John Hackney and Sidney Collins, 1 Sep 1807; citing Marriage, Fayette, Kentucky, United States, various county clerks and county courts, Kentucky; FHL microfilm 8,998.
10. ↑ Letter to Marvel Snead dated March 31, 1981 from John M Willhite Ft. Myers, FL.
11. ↑ Prewitt, Richard A. "The Collins Book (Most complete/sourced and consolidated info located for early Collins Families)

    Copy of Collins Book for Capt Joseph - searchable

    [http://www.vaiden.net/collins_descendents.pdf Descendants of John Collins (Early Generations) Thomas (b1707) pg 4 #A62 son of #A6

    History and genealogy of the Collins family of Caroline County, Va. and related families 1569-1954; Collins, Herbert Ridgeway; digital version Family Search] pgs 222

• History and Genealogy of The Collins Family, by Nora Collins,1940
• p 76; (214-216 p 107-108]; Source Broderbund's WFT Vol. # 32 Tree # 0010.; : Children of JOHN COLLINS and JEMINA BARNE

• (children partial match to this profile -- John m Bowen- Jemima Barne/Bowen 1737–Deceased • MDZD-9HJ

Research

Category: Melungeon Melungeon_Roots Provided by Terralea (Collins) Pantzar Here is a story that names this John Collins born in Orange County VA. Saponi Indians from Fort Cristanna to the Melungeons of Southern Appalachia

Re an Indian named “Sawney” who had recently returned to Virginia from Canada. He had been captured by the “French Indians”. Somehow he escaped about 1724 and returned to Virginia, with aid from John Collins. Once in Virginia, he was arrested and was accused of threatening the inhabitants with incursions from his former allies, the “French Indians” from Canada.

Orange County records from 1738-1743 refer to several Saponi living in the area. They include Alex Machartion, John Collins, John Bowling, Charles Griffen, and other “Christian Indians.” The following names are also mentioned – Manincassa, Foolish Jack, Little Jack, Isaac, Harry, Captain Tom and Blind Tom. Charles Griffen appears to have taken his name from Rev. Griffin, a former school teacher at the Fort Christanna school. Captain Joseph Collins negotiated the release of Sauna from the “French Indians” in 1722

it is quite possible to surmise that John Collins is the son of “Captain Tom”, for an elder named Tom Collins is shown living with John and the rest of the Christian Saponi in the years immediately following their expulsion from Orange County. If this is so, one might further speculate that Blind Tom is Tom’s father.”

• http://gracenotesgenealogy.com/familygroup.php?familyID=F761&tree=clarkbenscoter shows as Father John Collins | F461

Mother Ann Cook - Cannot be parents