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Archdale Combs

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Archdale Combs aka Combes, Combe
Born before in Soulbury, Buckinghamshire, England
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Died about in Old Rappanhannock County, Virginia Colony, British America
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Biography

Archdale Combe/Combs (1640?-1684?) of Stafford & Old Rappahannock Counties, Virginia aka Combes

Note: The Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group sometimes uses the spelling "Combe"

Origin

Archdale' origin is uncertain.[1] He was probably a son of John Combe and Elizabeth Lovett.[1] This relationship is not proved, but it is determined to be highly likely.[2]

Archdale was christened on 16 November 1641 at Soulbury, Buckinghamshire, England.[2] He was a son of John Combe and Elizabeth Lovett.[2] He may have been born at Sparsholt, Berkshire, England, as he was identified as "Archadell Combes, son of John of Sparsholt, Berkshire, Armiger, deceased," in regards to his apprenticeship in 1656.

Associations

In two documents of power of attorney in the 1660's, Archdale called Warrick Cammock his friend of his "loveing Friende Mr. Warricke Cammocke."[2]

Early Years

Archdale was apprenticed on 10 April 1656 for eight years, as a Draper, to his maternal uncle, Christopher Lovett.[2] Christopher had children baptized in 1658 and 1663 at Dublin, Ireland.[2] It was the usual practice for apprentices to reside with their masters.

Uncertain Wife's Maiden Name

Archdale married to Elizabeth Unknown.[1]

She has often been called Elizabeth Butler, based on two records. One was an apprenticeship record on 7 May 1684, in which Charles Combs was assigned to John Butler until the age of twenty-one (Old Rappahannock OB, 1683-1686, p. 20 (27)).[1] In another apprenticeship record, on 4 September 1684, William Combs was assigned to Mr. William Underwood (Old Rappahannock OB, 1683-1686, p. 55).

The other was a deed (which was a result of the relinquishment of dower signed by Elizabeth and Archdale in 1674), dated 11 Dec 1691, from William UNDERWOOD, Jr. to William THOMAS which has caused much confusion. A transcription is found on the Archdale Combs page by the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group:

…Mr. Wm. UNDERWOOD, Sr. "as Marrying the Sister of the said Mr. Ammaree BUTLER. And from the said BUTLER confer'd unto Mr. Wm. UNDERWOOD Senr. as marrying the Sister of the said BUTLER and from the said UNDERWOOD convey'd over by Exchange of the Thirds of land belonging unto Mrs. Eliza: COUMBS with consent of the said Mrs. Elizabeth COUMBS unto William UNDERWOOD, Junr., John COUMBES, and William COUMBES to them their heires or assignes forever… (Richmond Deeds, 1692-1694, Ruth & Sam Sparacio, McLean, VA, 1991)[1]

The difficulty in interpretation was a result of mis-identification of the two William Underwoods mentioned. "Mr. Wm. UNDERWOOD, Sr." was not the Col. Wm. UNDERWOOD, earlier husband of Elizabeth. He was the son of the Col. Wm. UNDERWOOD, and he was the husband of Mary BUTLER, sister of Amory BUTLER.

"Mr. Wm. UNDERWOOD, Jr." was not the son of Col. Wm. UNDERWOOD. He was son of Unknown Underwood and Elizabeth (-----) Underwood (Underwood) Combs.[1]

Often the suffixes "Sr." and "Jr." were used for two people, with the same name, living nearby each other. They were not necessarily related at all, or might have been only distantly related.

When the correct identities are known, we understand that Elizabeth relinquished her dower in order to secure the land for her sons, William Underwood, Jr., John Combs, and William Combs (Charles was possibly not born by that date, or was not her son).

Family

Archdale apparently married twice.

  • He married, as his 1st, to an Unknown wife.
  • He married between 1662 and 1666, as his 2nd, and as her 3rd, to Elizabeth (Unknown) (Underwood) Underwood, widow of an Unknown (possibly also William) Underwood, Major William Underwood of Rappahannock County Virginia (d c. 1662).[1] She seems to have had a son, William Underwood, Jr. by her first marriage to an Unknown Underwood. He was Archdale's step-son (see below).

Children of Archdale and Elizabeth (Unknown) (Underwood) (Underwood) Combs (likely more children):[1]

  1. John b c. 1662-3, d 1716
  2. William (-1718)
  3. (possibly?) Charles poss b after 14 Nov 1674 (date of relinquishment of dower in return for 600 acres for sons)

This transcription is found on the Archdale Combs page by the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group:

On 7 Jun 1666, Archdall COMBE gifted his "sone in Law" William UNDERWOOD, Jr. 2 cows, a heifer and 1500 pds. of "good sound Tobacco" to be in the care of Archdall COMBE himself until "the donee come of age to chuse him a guardian." (Old Rappa. DB 3:93-94)[1]

"Son-in-law" was often used to describe a step-son.

Death and Legacy

Archdale's death date and even the place of death are unknown. According to the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group, his death place could have been Old Rappahannock Co., Stafford Co., Maryland, or England.[1]

Archdale probably died in about 1684, because his sons, John and William, were assigned apprenticeships in that year. He certainly died after March 1677/8 when he witnessed documents and probably before 7 May 1684 when his son, Charles, was assigned an apprenticeship.[1]

Note

Note: Archdale Combs land history/seal
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=1ea40059-fc1d-4015-a589-48ffa56df1ba&tid=47674996&pid=344
Note: Archdale Combs
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=a1f0bd7d-07df-4b51-b355-ef851f069d61&tid=47674996&pid=344

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group, Archdale Combs (1640?-1684?) USGenNet accessed January 11, 2015
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group, "John Combe, Citizen, Draper, Merchant & Adventurer and Margaret Archdale, His Wyfe" USGenNet accessed January 14, 2015
  • Source: S-1734746729 Repository: #R-1782501651 Title: Family Data Collection - Deaths Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001. Note: APID: 1,5771::0
  • Repository: R-1782501651 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note:
  • Source: S-1734903621 Repository: #R-1782501651 Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived Note: APID: 1,7836::0
  • Source: S-1734903644 Repository: #R-1782501651 Title: Family Data Collection - Births Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. Note: APID: 1,5769::0
  • Source: S-1739074994 Repository: #R-1782501651 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Page: Ancestry Family Tree Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=47674996&pid=344
  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group, Archdale Combs (1640?-1684?) USGenNet accessed January 11, 2015
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group, "John Combe, Citizen, Draper, Merchant & Adventurer and Margaret Archdale, His Wyfe" USGenNet accessed January 14, 2015

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group for the excellent research, using primary documents, and for publishing it online.

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On March 1, 2015 at 03:03GMT Shirley Dalton wrote:

I agree that the English ancestors should remain Combe. I was concerned only with Archdale, who seems to have used mostly Combs after his immigration.

On February 28, 2015 at 23:54GMT Rodney Gross wrote:

I don't believe the spelling "Combs" was used prior to the family's migration to the US. I think "Combe" is more appropriate for the English ancestors.

On February 28, 2015 at 23:54GMT Rodney Gross wrote:

I don't believe the spelling "Combs" was used prior to the family's migration to the US. I think "Combe" is more appropriate for the English ancestors.

On January 15, 2015 at 16:08GMT Cynthia Billups wrote:

Combe-72 and Combs-443 are not ready to be merged because: Initially I thought the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group prefered the spelling Combe, but in looking at additional pages on their website, it seems they used both ... about equally. Now I am stumped as to which way to go. It also seems his children were divided, some using Combe and some using Combs. So that doesn't help. What do you think?

These profiles definitely represent the same person. Question is the spelling and thus, the direction of the merge INTO the "correct" spelling. If the decision is for Combe, then the others will both go into this one Combs-443 as the lowest number.

On January 15, 2015 at 16:05GMT Cynthia Billups wrote:

Combs-629 and Combe-72 are not ready to be merged because: Initially I thought the Combs-Coombs &c. Research Group prefered the spelling Combe, but in looking at additional pages on their website, it seems they used both ... about equally. Now I am stumped as to which way to go. It also seems his children were divided, some using Combe and some using Combs. So that doesn't help. What do you think?

These profiles definitely represent the same person. Question is the spelling and thus, the direction of the merge INTO the "correct" spelling.

On January 14, 2015 at 17:14GMT Cynthia Billups wrote:

Parents were John Combe and Elizabeth Lovett. (this profile has the grandparents)

According to the research of the Combs &c. Research Group http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-j-arch.htm These relationships are very likely (though not proved absolutely). They do seem to pass the threshold for inclusion in WikiTree.

On January 14, 2015 at 16:43GMT Cynthia Billups wrote:

The correct parents, John Combe and Margaret Archdale. (The ones currently attached were the grandparents of Archdale).

According to the research of the Combs &c. Research Group http://www.combs-families.org/combs/families/c-j-arch.htm These relationships are very likely (though not proved absolutely). They do seem to pass the threshold for inclusion in WikiTree.

On January 10, 2015 at 19:26GMT Shirley Dalton wrote:

Combs-443 and Combs-1051 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth dates, same spouse.

On January 10, 2015 at 19:05GMT Rick Combs wrote:

Combs-443 and Combs-1051 are not ready to be merged because: Birth/Death Date needs to be corrected along with birth/death place.



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