Thomas Copley II
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Thomas Copley II (1736 - 1818)

Thomas Copley II [uncertain]
Born in Halifax, Yorkshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1759 in Leckhampstead, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Husband of — married 13 Jul 1792 in Giles county, Virginia, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 82 in Giles County, Virginia, United Statesmap
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Biography

1776 Project
Private Thomas Copley II served with Montgomery County, Virginia Militia during the American Revolution.
Daughters of the American Revolution
Thomas Copley II is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A132358.

Aged: 85.4 years

<*> Thomas, II's father Thomas went back to England from Hartford, CT. It is not sure if he ever returned back to America, but his son Thomas, II was born in England before he came to America. Thomas, II was among the first to settle on the Bluestone River in Montgomery County, Virginia, which is now in West Virginia. He lived on the west side of the New River at the mouth of Campaigne [Camping] Hollow.

Thomas Copley, II's royal lineage:

1 *Edward I "Longshanks" Plantagenet , King of Eng. b: 24 JUN 1239 d: 15 JUL 1307

+ *Eleanor of Castile , Queen Consort of England b: 1241 d: 28 NOV 1290

2 *Elizabeth Plantagenet , Princess of England, UK b: 14 AUG 1282 d: 13 MAY 1316

+ John I Count of Holland b: 1284 d: 10 NOV 1299

+ Humphrey de Bohun VIII b: 1275 d: 24 MAR 1321/22

3 *Margaret de Bohun, 2nd Countess of Devon b: 11 APR 1311 d: 24 DEC 1391

+ Hugh de Courtenay, 2nd Earl of Devon b: 20 JUL 1303 d: 10 MAY 1377

4 *Edward Courtenay b: ABT. 1329 d: 1372

+ Emmeline Dawnay b: ABT. 1328 d: 1368

5 *Edward Courtenay b: 3 MAY 1357 d: 5 DEC 1419

+ Matilda Camoys b: ABT. 1367

6 *Elizabeth Courtenay b: ABT. 1385 d: 15 OCT 1471

+ John Harrington b: 1379 d: 24 SEP 1434

7 *Elizabeth Harrington b: ABT. 1404 d: ABT. 1456

+ Richard Copley b: ABT. 1400 d: ABT. 1430

8 *Lionel Copley b: ABT. 1410 d: ABT. 1508

+ Jane Thwaites b: 1430

9 *John Copley b: 1444 d: 1509

+ Agnes Pigot b: ABT. 1446 d: 10 JUN 1529

10 *William Copley b: ABT. 1472 d: 25 APR 1556

+ Dorothy FitzWilliam b: ABT. 1476 d: ABT. 1529

11 *Philip Copley b: 1526 d: 19 OCT 1577

+ Mary Hastings b: ABT. 1530 d: 8 JUN 1597

12 *John Copley b: ABT. 1559 d: ABT. 1603

+ Jane Angier b: ABT. 1572 d: 24 JUN 1626

13 *Thomas Copley b: 30 OCT 1597 d: 7 MAY 1628

+ Elizabeth Griswold b: 1604 d: 6 DEC 1712

14 *Thomas Copley II b: 3 SEP 1630 d: 29 NOV 1713

+ Ruth Denslow b: 19 SEP 1653 d: 5 OCT 1692

15 *Matthew Copley b: 14 APR 1679 d: 18 FEB 1763

+ Hannah Huxley b: 3 FEB 1680/81 d: 20 AUG 1745

16 *Thomas Copley b: 27 JUL 1706 d: UNKNOWN

+ Identity Unknown b: ABT. 1706

[1] <*>

Thomas came from England. He was among the first to settle on the Bluestone River in Montgomery County, Virginia, which is now in West Virginia. He lived on the west side of the New River at the mouth of Campaigne [Camping] Hollow.

1810 census, 1 male 0-10, 1 male 1 female 45 & up. Montgomery Co. 1 tithe, 4 horses, cattle, land.

He made application to open a new road from his canoe landing to the Court House. He ran a ferry below the mouth of Spruce Run on the New River. The charge for a man 6 1/4 cents, same for horse and cattle. Hog, sheep, goats 1/4 of 6 1/4 cents or about 1.56 cents. Wagon or cart 9 ü cents per wheel. (Received from Debbie D Copley, 26 May 200)

(the following, which she received from her cousin Bill in Flordia.) Thomas Copley Sr., born about 1736 in Halifax in Yorkshire, England, died in Giles County, Virginia about January 1822. He was 86.

He served in the Revolutionary War under Captain Daniel Smith's Company of Fincastle Soldiers. Fought at the Battle of Point Pleasant under Captain John Lucas' Company about 1759 when he was 23.

He first married Mary Day in Leckhamstead in Buckingham, England. She was born in 1740 in Leckhamstead in Buckingham, England. Mary died in Giles County, Virginia about 1791, she was 51. Thomas and Mary were of the first to settle on the Bluestone River in 1770.

On 13 July 1792, some say 23 July, and some say 3 Jan, he married Rhoda Prater, in Giles County, and some say Montgomery County, Virginia. (From Fran Roen, on the Ancestry.com share).

The birth place of Thomas, and the marriage place of Thomas and Mary Day. Will: 05 DEC 1818 Will Book "A", pages 283-285, Giles County, VA Will proved January 1822, so Thomas may have died in 1821.

Immigration: ABT 1764 To Virginia from England. Mary is shown arriving on the ship "Charming Molly" in 1764.

Event: Anecdote 1772 First settlers on the Bluestone River On January 25, 1783, Thomas Copley, Senior was recorded by Commissioner's Certificate with 160 acres which was settled in 1772 and surveyed February 4, 1775 on the west side of New River. Thomas is shown as over 45. His wife is over 45. There is one male with them, under 10 years old. Thomas Copley was among a long list of Delinquents returned by James McGavock in 1773.

Thomas Copley is listed as a Revolutionary soldier serving in Captain Daniel Smith's Co. of Fincastle Soldiers, along with Parker Adkins, Mordock and Henley McKenzie, etc. (p 1423, Annals of SW VA). He was a participant of the Battle of Point Pleasant, in Captain John Lucas' Company on May 30, 1774. He was also listed in Captain John Lucas list of tithables. Thomas Kirk, Sr. to Thomas Kirk, Jr. - 95 acres for $10.00. North side Buckeye Mountain, adjacent to survey made for Thomas Coplea. Thomas Copley is shown with 1 tithable, 3 horses, and one slave over the age of 16 and pays a tax of 80 cents (which is actually a fairly high tax for that time). The same tax roll includes his sons James, John, Joshua, and Joseph. Thomas is also shown in 1807 (Coplea), 1809 (Coplea), 1810 (Coplea), 1811 (Copley), 1812 (Copley), and 1817 (Coplea). His sons are shown in all of these censuses, except James is not listed after 1811.

1 Event: Anecdote 26 JUN 1811 Giles County, VA 1. Title: Giles County Personal Property Taxes Abbrev: Giles County Property Taxes Page: 1806 2. Title: Giles County History Abbrev: Giles County History [2]

Will

Will proved January 1822, so Thomas may have died in 1821.

Wife Roda... Children Thomas, Jr. , Betsey McKinney, Nancy White, James Copely, and Joshua Copley... The rest of my children, to wit, Rachel Johnston, dec., Abigail Walker, John Copley, Joseph Copley, Sally McKinney

I give and bequeath unto son Joshua and his son Johnston the land I live on... Mentions son Joseph and Joseph's son Freeman...

John Peck and Joshua Copley to be executors. [3]

Children (√ = mentioned in will above)

Thomas b. abt 1764 in VA, Fincastle County. √

Rachel b. abt 1765 in VA, Fincastle √

Sarah b. abt 1766 in VA √

John b. 16 MAY 1768 in VA √

Joseph b. abt 1771 in VA √

Nancy b. abt 1772 in VA, Fincastle Co and d. 1860 spouse is John Hunter White √

Elizabeth b. abt 1773 in VA √

James b. 18 APR 1775 in VA √

Joshua b. 18 APR 1775 in VA √

Abigail b. bef 1780 √

THOMAS [4]

Birth: ABT 1764 in Augusta County, Virginia

Death: AFT 1850 in Wayne County, Virginia

Father: Thomas Copley b: ABT 1736 in Halifax, Yorkshire, England

Mother: Mary Day b: ABT 1740 in Leckhamstead, Buckingham, England

Marriage 1 Sarah 'Sally' Norris b: BEF 1768

Married: 7 Aug 1786 in Montgomery County, Virginia

Children

Thomas Copley b: ABT 1801 in Montgomery (Giles) County, Virginia

Clarinda 'Clary' Copley b: ABT 1802 in North Carolina

Marriage 2 Mary Frasher b: ABT 1781 in Virginia

Married: BEF 1805

Children

Sarah Copley b: ABT 1805 in Virginia, USA

Nancy Copley b: ABT 1822

Penelope Copley b: ABT 1827 in Kentucky, USA


Name

Name: THOMAS 1736 /COPLEY/[1][2][3][4]

Birth

Birth 19 AUG 1736 Halifax, Yorkshire, ENG[5][6]

Babtism

Possible match

Babtism 12 SEP 1737 Wheldrake, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom [7]

Residence

Residence 1769-1800 VA, USA[8]
Residence 1810 Giles, VA, USA[9]

Note

Note: Thomas Copley, Sr.
Marriage 1: Mary Day
Children:
1. Joshua Copley b: ABT 1760 in Aboard ship on way to America
2. Thomas Copley b: ABT 1764 in Montgomery Co., VA
3. Joseph C. Copley
Marriage 2: Rhonda Prater
Children:
1. James B. Copley b: 8 JUN 1793 in Virginia
Sources:
1. Abbrev: SAP - family info
Title: SAP - family info
Note:
Source Media Type: Letter
Repository:
Served in Revolutionary War under Capt. Daniel Smith of Fincastle Soldiers; Battle of Point Pleasant, WV, Capt. John Lucas' Co, when he was about 23 years of age.
He & 1st wife, Mary (Day) Copley were 1st settlers on New River/Blue Stone River, about 1770.
Research indicates Children of Thomas Copley, Sr., and 1st Wife, Mary (Day) Copley were:
  1. Joshua Copley, b. Abt. 1764 on board ship, Atlantic Ocean;
  2. Thomas Copley, Jr.;
  3. Rachel/Rachael Copley;
  4. Sarah "Sally" Copley;
  5. John Copley;
  6. Joseph C. Copley;
  7. Nancy Copley;
  8. Elizabeth "Betsy" Copley, W/O Joseph Floyd McKinney, I;
  9. Abigail Copley
Family links:
Children:
Elizabeth "Betsy" Copley McKinney (1773 - ____)*
James B. Copley (1793 - 1874)*
Spouses:
Rhoda (Prater) Copley
Mary Day Copley (1740 - 1791)*
Find A Grave Memorial# 43537807
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=9eb3d560-4a17-439b-8d6e-1cd3cd4b6b06&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Rev War Giles Co., VA monument
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=ca926898-5857-4031-81f2-3e9641242618&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Map of Rev War patriot homes Giles Co, Va
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d497265e-25c6-46e6-8ad1-580b10ce07bd&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Thomas Copley served in the Revolutionary War
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=accfc34d-9a33-45f7-86e3-af610db85a5c&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Thomas Copley served in the Revolutionary War
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=0b9204c1-0a26-47e6-bb31-b16cca5e8d82&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Map of Rev War patriot homes Giles Co, Va
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d9609d01-293f-43ae-b822-b7fc65eca963&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: signature
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=ffe8c350-2de7-49a8-8db6-c10758ad9f92&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Cover page will book
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=901fe28a-967e-45e2-b934-eb1233ee465e&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Giles Co, VA history book
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d2a9e3b7-acbc-4c1d-b68d-f0427b1b4510&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Copley History
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=5b0bd529-fa70-4877-8568-f65cb5b2858f&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=c5c4634e-81c3-41dc-8dcd-f88f84cb4320&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=6c67271b-0dcb-4ec0-bb90-f17b98c1d8ce&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=7386ae43-f35b-4c38-94c5-997359e49106&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=18e29e94-834b-4771-8019-7e8ccb887684&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copy
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=7468d644-b188-46e8-8b4e-6a767ebd19e3&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Copley History
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d1fc3796-d7c2-44db-adc4-327cfd58ce2f&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Giles Co, VA history book
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=4b9bca07-c9f0-40d8-92cf-0be5c422d7de&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Book: Rev War service proof
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=c07fbfa0-e1c4-4a03-bda8-dccc0662d954&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Book: Rev War service proof
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=b938809a-2eb6-4049-9a77-a939548a6801&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Rev War Giles Co., VA monument
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=42af7234-d152-4df0-86bc-922d1ee2d08b&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Will of Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=115012af-4530-41d6-a503-49f76c8fd3a7&tid=11795205&pid=1541
Note: Thomas Copley
http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=24973143-c77a-42da-953f-81881b7e3050&tid=11795205&pid=1541

Marriage

Husband: Thomas 1736 Copley
Wife: Rhonda Prater
Child: Thomas 1763 Copley
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Step
Child: James B. Copley
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Marriage: [some say 3 JAN 1792 Montgomery County, Virginia.]
Date: 13 JUL 1792
Place: GILES COUNTY, VA, USA[10]


Sources

  1. Source: #S-2096946822 Page: Source number: 348.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JED. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=275735&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1736 Birth place: or APID: 1,7836::275735
  2. Source: #S-2103111424 Page: Year: 1810; Census Place: , Giles, Virginia; Roll: 68; Page: 385; Family History Number: 0181428; Image: 00737. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=1810usfedcenancestry&h=824289&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1810 Residence place: Giles, Virginia, United States APID: 1,7613::824289
  3. Source: #S-2093249489 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genealogy-glh08027471&h=934&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1769-1800 Residence place: Virginia, USA APID: 1,10533::934
  4. Source: #S-2096946822 Page: Source number: 355.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JED. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=275740&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1736 Birth place: or Marriage date: 1792 Marriage place: VA APID: 1,7836::275740
  5. Source: #S-2096946822 Page: Source number: 348.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JED. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=275735&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1736 Birth place: or APID: 1,7836::275735
  6. Source: #S-2096946822 Page: Source number: 355.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JED. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=275740&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1736 Birth place: or Marriage date: 1792 Marriage place: VA APID: 1,7836::275740
  7. Source: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3GT-MLJ : 19 March 2020), Thomas Copley, 1737.
  8. Source: #S-2093249489 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genealogy-glh08027471&h=934&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1769-1800 Residence place: Virginia, USA APID: 1,10533::934
  9. Source: #S-2103111424 Page: Year: 1810; Census Place: , Giles, Virginia; Roll: 68; Page: 385; Family History Number: 0181428; Image: 00737. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=1810usfedcenancestry&h=824289&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Residence date: 1810 Residence place: Giles, Virginia, United States APID: 1,7613::824289
  10. Source: #S-2096946822 Page: Source number: 355.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JED. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=275740&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: 1736 Birth place: or Marriage date: 1792 Marriage place: VA APID: 1,7836::275740
  • Source: S-2093249489 Repository: #R-2142803482 Title: Annals of southwest Virginia, 1769-1800 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.Original data - Summers, Lewis Preston,. Annals of southwest Virginia, 1769-1800. Abingdon, Va.: L.P. Summers, 1929.Original data: Summers, Lewis Preston,. Annals of southwest Virginia, 1769 Note: Laminated.|||Includes index.|||Botetourt Co.--Fincastle Co.--Montgomery Co.--Washington Co.--Wythe Co.--Revolutionary soldiers.--Bickley, G.W.L. History of Tazewell County.--Coale, C.B. Wilburn Waters. APID: 1,10533::0
  • Repository: R-2142803482 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note:
  • Source: S-2096736708 Repository: #R-2142803482 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Page: Ancestry Family Trees Note: Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=11795205&pid=1541
  • Source: S-2096946822 Repository: #R-2142803482 Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was deriv Note: APID: 1,7836::0
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  • http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/a/y/Anita-Howard-Ray-KY/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0390.html
  • From the personal records of Eli Mckinney
  • http://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/thomas-copley_29651275




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There seems to be an issue with the royal lineage given here, specifically with Elizabeth Courtenay/John Harrington. I can't find any remotely reliable sources that have any children coming from their union. John Harington (4 Baron Harington) (only 1 "r" for what that's worth) did indeed marry Elizabeth Courtenay, but it doesn't seem that they are the parents of Elizabeth Harrington.
posted by Joshua Coffee
Aha! This Thomas' father's name was Matthew (married to Hannah Huxley B: 1681 D: 20 Aug 1745) as a young man and later changed to Thomas as an adult and needs to be changed to reflect some individuation because it continues back two more Thomas' back in time. But that is not how this site has it, so...I am confused who is who to add new info here. This is a very ornate profile and so I thought I would use this space to bring this up. Thank you for your time. Megan
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Megan Finley,

I adopted this profile. Some one other than me made it ornate. Thank you for expressing your concerns. Suggest the genealogy you believe to be accurate, please add sources.

posted by Tam (Lewis) X
edited by Tam (Lewis) X
I'm not convinced Matthew changed his name to Thomas, but he may have had one or two siblings named Thomas. James Benton Copley is my ancestor too and I'd love to figure this out for sure. I'm concerned about the story that has made rounds about Thomas (husband of Rhoda Prater) being born in CT where it is reported he was born in England. Something is just not right. Are these two distinctly different Copley families that some genealogist fixed a story to make it fit or does Suffield, CT site have their data wrong? I didn't create the story but I added on-line info that has been repeated by many. Where was the father of James Benton Copley born? That should first be resolved with supporting records.
posted by Tam (Lewis) X
It was not me either who did all the work on this profile. I am the caregiver for my elderly parents and don't really have the time right now to devote to genealogy. So either of the other profile managers, please feel free to do what need to be done.

Sonja Ratliff

posted by Sonja Ratliff
Copley-970 and Copley-447 are not ready to be merged because: not the lowest ID
posted by Robin Lee
Copley-970 and Copley-269 appear to represent the same person because: same dates and wife
posted by Robin Lee
Copley-447 and Copley-269 appear to represent the same person because: same/similar birth and death, same wife
posted by Robin Lee
Copley-970 and Copley-447 appear to represent the same person because: same person, same wife and similar dates
posted by Robin Lee
Copley-447 and Copley-540 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, married to same person with about the same birth date.
posted by Sonja Ratliff