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Sir Philip Courtenay of Powderham, Devon (b. c. 1345 - d. 29 Jul 1406 Exeter, Devon), Lord Lieut. of Ireland, Admiral of the Western Fleet.[1][2]
He is in the will of both his mother Margaret de Bohun, and brother William, Archbishop of Canterbury. There are numerous references to Philip in the post mortem inquisitions of his mother.
Parents
Father Sir Hugh de Courtenay, 2nd Lord Courtenay, 10th Earl of Devon[3] b. 12 Jul 1303, d. 2 May 1377
Mother Margaret de Bohun[4] b. 3 Apr 1311, d. 16 Dec 1391
Marriage
He married Anne Wake, daughter of Sir Thomas Wake and Alice de Pateshull, circa 1378. They had 3 sons (Richard, Bishop of Norwich; Sir John; & Sir William) and 2 daughters (Agnes, wife of Sir Otes Champernoun; & Margaret, wife of Sir Robert Carew).[5]
For when the profile is overhauled (or earlier if someone has time)
In the comments there is a discussion of June 2023 of a 1361 record referring to a petition for the grant of a prebend at Chichester to Philip son of Hugh de Courtenay Earl of Devon, referring to him holding other prebends. This discussion needs to be drawn on when the profile is improved.
Sources
↑ Birth date: Book III Chapter I, The Notable and Illustrious Family of Courtenay by Ezra Cleaveland BD, printed by Edw. Farley, Eastgate, Exon [1735]
↑ Richardson, D. (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd ed, II, p. 28; Richardson, D. Royal Ancestry, II, p. 400
Wikipedia -- Sir Phillip Courtenay of Powderham Castle, Lord Deputy of Ireland (1340 - 29 July 1406), ... issue, including Richard Courtenay, Bishop of Norwich.
Dawes, M.C.B., Johnson, H.C., Condon M.M, Cook, C.A. & Jones, H.E. (1988). "Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, File 70," (Margaret, widow of Hugh de Courtney, Earl of Devon). Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, 17, pp. 1-12. London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office. BHO.
Duncan, L.L. (1898). The will of William Courtenay, Archbishop of Cantebury 1396. Archaeologia Cantiana, 23, pp. 55-67. Kent Archaeological Society. Google Books.
Nicolas, N H. (1826). "Margaret de Courtney, Countess of Devon, January 28th, 1391," in Testamenta Vetusta, I, pp. 127-28. Parliament Street, London. Google Books. (mirror: PDF available for downoad).
See also:
Lewis, M. (2014, February 1). "Sir Philip Courtenay, Lord Lieut. of Ireland, Admiral of the Western Fleet #16466, b. circa 1355, d. 29 July 1406," citing Richardson; Faris. ORTNCA. Web.
Maclean, J. (1873). The Parochial and Family History of the Deanery of Trigg Minor, in the County of Cornwall, 1, pp. 76. London: Nichols & Sons Google Books.
O'Hart, J. (1892). Irish pedigrees, 5th ed, p. 169. Society of Australian Genealogists.
A genealogical history of the noble and illustrious family of Courtenay. Ancestry.com, 2005.
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Admiral of the western fleet by 28 Mar. 1372-aft. Oct. 1380.
Commr. of oyer and terminer, s. coast July, Dec. 1374, Devon Aug. 1376, July 1380, Nov. 1381, Calais Nov. 1382, Cornw. Dec. 1395; inquiry Devon Nov. 1375, Aug. 1376 (mines and stannaries), Apr., Aug. 1381 (seizure of a ship), May 1383 (expenditure of subsidies for the safekeeping of the sea), Devon, Cornw. Mar., July 1391 (concealments), Devon June 1391 (a complaint by the Franciscan friars, Plymouth), Devon, Cornw. Mar. 1393 (concealments), Devon Aug., Nov. 1400 (concealment of alnage); array Apr., July 1377, Feb. 1379, Mar. 1380, Dec. 1399, Aug., Sept., Oct. 1403, July 1405; to make proclamation against unlawful assemblies June 1381; put down rebellion Dec. 1381, Mar., Dec. 1382; hear appeals from the admiral’s ct. Nov. 1382, Feb. 1383; of arrest Nov. 1382; Devon Feb. 1392, Cornw. Nov. 1392; to survey mines, Devon, Cornw. Aug. 1391; requisition fishing vessels Nov. 1394; make proclamation of the King’s intention to govern well, Devon May 1402.
Tax surveyor, Devon Aug. 1379; collector Mar. 1404.
J.p. Devon 20 Dec. 1382-c.1385.
Lt. of Ire. 1 July 1383-Jan. 1386.
Steward of duchy of Cornw. in Cornw. 15 Nov. 1388-24 Feb. 1392.2
"Sir Philip Courtenay of Powderham Castle, whose Progeny is the Subject of this Book, was fifth Son of Hugh Courtenay, second of that Name, Earl of Devonshire, by Margaret his Wife, Daughter of Humphry Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, and Lord High Constable of England, and Grand-daughter of King Edward I. He was born about the Year 1337, and was the first of that Noble Family of Courtenay of Powderham, which continueth there to this Day, and is in a prosperous Condition : He is called in his Mother's Will, Sir Philip Courtenay of Canonleigh, and in some Writings Sir Philip Courtenay of Bickley. Book III Chapter I, The Notable and Illustrious Family of Courtenay by Ezra Cleaveland BD, printed by Edw. Farley, Eastgate, Exon [1735]
Thanks. This profile has yet to be overhauled by the Magna Carta Project. There is a long queue of profiles waiting attention by the project. If any pre-1500-certified member wishes to improve the profile in the meantime, please do.
My suggestion that 1337 is too early is based partly on the fact that he didn't marry until about 1378 and according to his ipm in 1406, his son and heir Richard was aged 24, so born about 1382. https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol19/pp27-50 (see 123-125) That seems to be old to be making a first marriage during the medieval period, even for a younger son.
Also his parents didn't marry until 1325, and his mother was only about 14 then and having 5 sons and probably 3 or 4 daughters in 12 years although not impossible, seems to be a little unlikely.
I'm not sure of the source for the statement that he was aged 50 in 1405 which would place his birth in about 1355, but that seems too late. His mother would have been 44, and still to give birth to another 3 sons and maybe daughters after Philip. I would think if we have to estimate a date of birth, then about 1345 (give or take 5 years) would better fit the facts as we know them. Perhaps once this profile is overhauled, then more information would be forthcoming.
Thanks, John. The age 50 in 1405 statement is said in the profile to come from Wikipedia, but as far as I can see all Wikipedia gives is a birth date of c1355 with no sourcing. For now I am changing the birth date to about 1345.
Wikipedia says he was present at , and knighted immediately before, the 1367 Battle of Najera and was made Admiral of the West in 1372: I have not checked the sourcing for these statements, but if they are right, they point to an earlier birth date than 1355.
The statement that he was 50 in 1405 comes from the ipms of his brother Peter. https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol18/pp376-398 Philip is described as 50 and more in inquisition no. 1145 and 48 years and more in inquisition no. 1146. The main heir was their nephew Edward, 3rd Earl of Devon who is described in the various inquisitions as aged 50 years and more, 35 years and more, and 40 years and more. According to The Complete Peerage, 2nd ed. vol. 4, p. 325 he was born circa 1357, so aged about 48 in 1405. In this case the ages of heir might not be particularly reliable.
Thanks, John. When the profile is revised, we will probably need a research note on the birth date. If you feel like writing one, great - but please feel under no compulsion, it can wait.
That's what I thought, but the source Jason cites, is citing Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland: Petitions to the Pope, 1342-1419, vol. i. London, 1896. pp. 321 and 374 and the latter page, definitely names Philip as "son of Hugh de Courtenay, Earl of Devon, kinsman of the king ..." also that he was aged 13 (in 1361). https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044108760422&view=1up&seq=394
Either he left the church or the name is wrong? It is a transcription as well.
It looks to me that, in the transcript of the record of the prebend, Philip is a misreading of William, who became Archbishop of Canterbury, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Courtenay-390. It refers to Philip having prebends at "Crukerne, Chulmelegh and Exeter Castle". Higher up on the same page is an entry for a grant of a prebend at York to William, "notwithstanding that he has the church of Crukern, and a prebendal portion in Exeter castle."
A completely different Philip de Courtenay, that's being given that title at the same time as this Philip's brother, William, is given his?
Provision to William de Courtenay of the canonry and prebend of York, void by the death of Henry la Zouch at the Roman court. 3 Id. Aug.
...
Provision to Philip de Courtenay of the canonry and prebend of Chichester, void by the death of Thomas David or of Richard de Hornington at the Roman court. 3 Id. Aug.
On the Chichester prebend, the transcript at https://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/petitions-to-pope/1342-1419/pp317-326 to which you link is a different entry for the same prebend as that referred to in Hathi Trust which John gave a link to, at https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=hvd.32044108760422&view=1up&seq=394. Both are in the same book compiled by W H Bliss, who acknowledges in his preface that some proper names were "doubtful". It is the entry John linked to, on p. 374, which tells us that "Philip" already held prebends at Crukerne, Chulmelegh and Exeter Castle, two of which - Crukerne and Exeter Castle - are mentioned earlier on the same page as being held by William.
[corrected because I discovered the records were from the same book]
I'm not sure what "portion" means, in this instance. Couldn't the brothers each have a portion?
If the age is correct, 13, that would have William born in 1348, when the mother is 37, and 5 children born after that. If it is Philip, then it's 3 children born after that.
The "portion" applies only to the Exeter Castle prebend. As I have said, we will need a research note. In the absence of further evidence, in my mind there is enough to suggest that the balance of probability is that "Philip" is a misreading of "William". I choose my words with care. [edited for typo]
Philip de Courtenay, son of Hugh de Courtenay, Earl of Devon, was suc- ceeded in his Prebend by Sir John de Tettebourne, priest, who was collated (at Chudleigh), 18 Nov. The Patron was the Earl, but this is not mentioned.
The Register of Ralph of Shrewsbury, Bishop of Bath and Wells 1329-1363, vol.2, p. 766 https://archive.org/details/registerralphsh06holmgoog/page/n355/mode/1up has on 9 June 1362, Philip Courtenay is admitted to the second portion of the Church of Crukerne, having resigned the third portion on the same day. Philip is presumably underage, because Walter Broun is his proxy in the second portion.
There is also an article 'Chapel and prebends in Exeter Castle' by Niall O'Brien, in his blog Medieval News, http://celtic2realms-medievalnews.blogspot.com/2014/05/chapel-and-prebends-in-exeter-castle_24.html which discusses Thomas de Courtenay, 2nd son of Hugh Earl of Devon, as holding various prebends, but stating "the various prebends were merely a source of income as Thomas was a student at Oxford (1347-49) and underage" Thomas resigned his prebends in 1349.
Perhaps Philip de Courtenay was the same, taking up prebends during his minority as a source of income, but resigning them before reaching his majority?
Yes, it looks like Hugh had arranged these ecclesiastical titles for all of his young sons. William was simply the only one that made a career of the church.
Thanks, Jason and John. I am grateful for your research. I agree that, William aside, the prebends were just being exploited as income-giving assets for minor children not destined to be priests. I knew this happened elsewhere in Europe, and I have learnt from this that it also happened in England - it is always good to add to my store of knowledge :-) I am amending the birth date to about 1348. That is compatible with what we know of Philip's later life, eg the year he was knighted.
Philip's biography (like the profiles of some other Courtenays managed by the Magna Carta Project) needs major work. This is not on my immediate agenda - I have other WT priorities at present. If either of you wishes to help improve the profile, please do. Meanwhile, I have added a short research note drawing attention to these exchanges.
This profile has been identified on a Richardson-documented trail from Gateway Humphrey Davie to surety baron Robert de Vere (see trail here). I will soon be adding the Magna Carta Project as co-manager of this profile and will be adding a project box and project section to the bio. This profile still needs development by the project.
Courtenay-1034 and Courtenay-23 appear to represent the same person because: These 2 profiles represent the same person based on family relationships, please merge.
Courtenay-23 and Courtenay-293 appear to represent the same person because: Hi! In researching the wife of Robert Cary Cary-21 and the mother of his son (Philip Cary-17), it seems that _Elizabeth_ may not be the recorded name of the daughter of Philip Courtenay who married Robert Cary & was the mother of his son Philip, although that's what the name the reference has ( http://thepeerage.com/p20695.htm#i206948 ) These profiles had been set as rejected, but could you take another look? (Especially since the bio for Robert Cary at http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/cary-robert-1431 shows his wife as Margaret Courtenay & says he married the granddaughter of Hugh.)
Commr. of oyer and terminer, s. coast July, Dec. 1374, Devon Aug. 1376, July 1380, Nov. 1381, Calais Nov. 1382, Cornw. Dec. 1395; inquiry Devon Nov. 1375, Aug. 1376 (mines and stannaries), Apr., Aug. 1381 (seizure of a ship), May 1383 (expenditure of subsidies for the safekeeping of the sea), Devon, Cornw. Mar., July 1391 (concealments), Devon June 1391 (a complaint by the Franciscan friars, Plymouth), Devon, Cornw. Mar. 1393 (concealments), Devon Aug., Nov. 1400 (concealment of alnage); array Apr., July 1377, Feb. 1379, Mar. 1380, Dec. 1399, Aug., Sept., Oct. 1403, July 1405; to make proclamation against unlawful assemblies June 1381; put down rebellion Dec. 1381, Mar., Dec. 1382; hear appeals from the admiral’s ct. Nov. 1382, Feb. 1383; of arrest Nov. 1382; Devon Feb. 1392, Cornw. Nov. 1392; to survey mines, Devon, Cornw. Aug. 1391; requisition fishing vessels Nov. 1394; make proclamation of the King’s intention to govern well, Devon May 1402.
Tax surveyor, Devon Aug. 1379; collector Mar. 1404.
J.p. Devon 20 Dec. 1382-c.1385.
Lt. of Ire. 1 July 1383-Jan. 1386.
Steward of duchy of Cornw. in Cornw. 15 Nov. 1388-24 Feb. 1392.2
Member of the King’s Council c. Jan. 1405.3
https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1386-1421/member/courtenay-sir-philip-1406
Numerous mentions of Philip, as Admiral ...
https://archive.org/details/calendarofcloser14grea/page/n14/mode/1up?q=Courtenay
edited by Jason Clark
My suggestion that 1337 is too early is based partly on the fact that he didn't marry until about 1378 and according to his ipm in 1406, his son and heir Richard was aged 24, so born about 1382. https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol19/pp27-50 (see 123-125) That seems to be old to be making a first marriage during the medieval period, even for a younger son.
Also his parents didn't marry until 1325, and his mother was only about 14 then and having 5 sons and probably 3 or 4 daughters in 12 years although not impossible, seems to be a little unlikely.
I'm not sure of the source for the statement that he was aged 50 in 1405 which would place his birth in about 1355, but that seems too late. His mother would have been 44, and still to give birth to another 3 sons and maybe daughters after Philip. I would think if we have to estimate a date of birth, then about 1345 (give or take 5 years) would better fit the facts as we know them. Perhaps once this profile is overhauled, then more information would be forthcoming.
edited by John Atkinson
Wikipedia says he was present at , and knighted immediately before, the 1367 Battle of Najera and was made Admiral of the West in 1372: I have not checked the sourcing for these statements, but if they are right, they point to an earlier birth date than 1355.
PREBENDARIES OF IPTHORNE
Philip de Courtenay 1361-?
Prov. 11 Aug. 1361 (CPP. 1 321, 374).
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/fasti-ecclesiae/1300-1541/vol7/pp33-34
Either he left the church or the name is wrong? It is a transcription as well.
Provision to William de Courtenay of the canonry and prebend of York, void by the death of Henry la Zouch at the Roman court. 3 Id. Aug. ... Provision to Philip de Courtenay of the canonry and prebend of Chichester, void by the death of Thomas David or of Richard de Hornington at the Roman court. 3 Id. Aug.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/petitions-to-pope/1342-1419/pp317-326
[corrected because I discovered the records were from the same book]
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[corrected for typos]
edited by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
I'm not sure what "portion" means, in this instance. Couldn't the brothers each have a portion?
If the age is correct, 13, that would have William born in 1348, when the mother is 37, and 5 children born after that. If it is Philip, then it's 3 children born after that.
edited by Michael Cayley
' Philip de Courtenay, clerk, was inst. (at Chudleigh), 15 Nov. ; Patron, Sir Hugh de Courtenay, Earl of Devon.
Also numerous mentions, in the book, of Thomas, some of Edward, Hugh son of Hugh, and William, all having involvement in the church.
https://archive.org/details/registerofjohnde03exet/page/1458/mode/2up?q=Courtenay
Earl of Devon. — Letters of Institution and Induction directed to the Dean
of Chulmleigh and the R. of Chawleigh, " racione dependencie Visitacionis
Domini in Archidiaconatu Barnastapoliensi."
Philip de Courtenay, son of Hugh de Courtenay, Earl of Devon, was suc- ceeded in his Prebend by Sir John de Tettebourne, priest, who was collated (at Chudleigh), 18 Nov. The Patron was the Earl, but this is not mentioned.
There is also an article 'Chapel and prebends in Exeter Castle' by Niall O'Brien, in his blog Medieval News, http://celtic2realms-medievalnews.blogspot.com/2014/05/chapel-and-prebends-in-exeter-castle_24.html which discusses Thomas de Courtenay, 2nd son of Hugh Earl of Devon, as holding various prebends, but stating "the various prebends were merely a source of income as Thomas was a student at Oxford (1347-49) and underage" Thomas resigned his prebends in 1349.
Perhaps Philip de Courtenay was the same, taking up prebends during his minority as a source of income, but resigning them before reaching his majority?
edited by John Atkinson
edited by Jason Clark
Philip's biography (like the profiles of some other Courtenays managed by the Magna Carta Project) needs major work. This is not on my immediate agenda - I have other WT priorities at present. If either of you wishes to help improve the profile, please do. Meanwhile, I have added a short research note drawing attention to these exchanges.
edited by Michael Cayley
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