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Thomas Crump (abt. 1770 - abt. 1856)

Thomas Crump aka Crumpton, Crompton
Born about in Staffordshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 12 Mar 1797 (to about 1809) in St. Phillips, Sydney, New South Wales, Australiamap
Husband of — married 1811 in Defacto relationshipmap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 85 in Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Thomas Crump was a convict after the Third Fleet transported to New South Wales

Thomas Crump was born about 1770 in Staffordshire, England[1] and was the son of Hannah Crumpton[2]. Some genealogy records have his date of birth as 17 October 1770 [3]. Another record from the same era lists a Thomas Crompton, baptised 11 August 1771 at St Peters, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire to parents Hannah and Thomas, that may be for Thomas which fits with both his name and his mother's First Name [2], and with the father also being Thomas [4]. It is possible that his Last Name at Birth was actually "Crompton."[4]. He may have been born in 1770 and baptised in 1771, so both dates may be correct. When his oldest son, Thomas, was baptised, his name was registered as "Crompton".

Thomas was tried, convicted, found guilty and sentenced to death on 18 Sep 1792 at the Old Bailey. At the time of his conviction he was recorded as being aged 20 years[5]. This sentence was imputed, on the condition that he be transported for life and he was sent to the New South Wales Colony, leaving England in February, 1794 aboard the Ship "Surprize" and arriving at Sydney Cove on 17 October 1794. [6]. However, the Settler and Convict Lists (1817,1820) (NSW Public Records Office) state Thomas Crumpton arrived on the "Surprize" in June 1790 under Master Anstiss (part of the notorious Second Fleet). This is an obvious discrepancy - the same record indicates his trial at Old Bailey occurred over two years later in Sep 1792; It undoubtedly refers to the correct person and the dates are clearly written. The "Surprize" is known to have departed Port Jackson for Norfolk Island in August 1790, but Thomas does not appear on any of the passenger lists for either of those voyages under any of his known pseudonyms, but does appear in the transportation list for 1794. [7].

In 1797, Thomas sent a letter to his mother, Hannah, who worked for a Tin-plate Worker by the name of Mr. J. Scholefield, asking to have his tools sent out from England. Mr Schofield received permission, and was able to send a Box of Tools, as well as a Smith's Bellows, to Thomas Crompton on the ship "Barwell", a Convict Ship, in 1798 making it possible for him to pursue his trade as a white-smith. [2].

He traveled on the same ship as another convict, Mary Harrison[8] who he married on 12 March 1797 in St Phillips Anglican Church, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia [9][10] [11]. The sons from this marriage were Thomas Crumpton and Isaac Crump.

However, by 1802 he had been incarcerated on Norfolk Island, for attempting to escape in the Governors vessel in 1800, as he was mustered on the Norfolk Island Victualing List [Ref CA513], leaving his wife and two sons behind in Sydney. He remained there for about four years before being transferred to Newcastle where he remained for a number of years without hope of being transferred back to his family.

On 14 March Menzies, signing himself C. A. F. N. Menzies, wrote offering his services to superintend the proposed settlement. His offer was accepted and on 18 March 1804 he was appointed to Command and Superintend the Settlement to be re-established at the Coal Harbour and Hunter’s River [12]. Thomas lived and was allocated to work on that settlement. By November 1804, a comment was made in a communication to by Lieutenant Menzies on the "PROGRESS OF THE SETTLEMENT" at Coal River, Newcastle. "A well built stone wharf was nearly completed, bricks had been sent from headquarters to aid the construction of salt pans, however boat builder/ carpenter Thomas Crump had become ill and so the work had been delayed."[13].

On 30 January 1810 Thomas received his emancipation papers from Lieutenant Govenor Paterson and wished to return to Sydney, only to be returned to Newcastle on 3 February 1810 as his emancipation was declared illegal. [14][15].

On 20 Oct 1810 the following appeared in the The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW : 1803 - 1842) on Saturday 20 October 1810 Page 3 SYDNEY: At this day's Bench of Magistrates Elizabeth Fielding was charged by Thomas Crump with having taken from his person a pocket-book, containing sundry promissory notes of hand, and other papers of value amounting in the whole to £50. --- The prisoner, being shut out by the evidence of several who appeared against her from any evident ground of defence, set up a plea of his having given them to her to lay out to the best advantage for their mutual benefit: but of this her own assertion was the only evidence; whereas the facts, upon the other side were clear and positive. The Court cleared, and upon reopening the prisoner was sentenced to be removed to Parramatta, there to be kept to hard labour for two years in the Factory.[15]

It was at Newcastle that Thomas met and, by 18 December 1811, was living with Mary Johnson, a convict who had arrived at Sydney Cove, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia on January 26, 1809 and had been transferred to Newcastle[14][15]. Their children were Maria Crump, Caroline (Crump) Brown, Arthur Benjamin Crumpton, Harriet (Crump) Knott, Francis Crump, Samuel Crump, Charles Crumpton and Hannah (Crump) Sherwood.

It seems that on 29 February 1812 Thomas received both his Conditional and his Absolute Pardon[16][17].

Emancipation Document Citing: Thomas Crump

While living in Newcastle, he had owned a house which he sold to the Government on, or before, 24 October 1812, which had been paid for out of the Police Fund[15]for the sum of £10[18]

On 12 April 1813, Thomas was given permission to embarked on a voyage to New Zealand aboard the "Queen Charlotte", on execution by the Captain of the ship of bond for his return to New South Wales [19][15], which he obviously did, as by 29 August 1815 he is recorded in the Colonial Secretary's Index as being a "Blacksmith of Sydney" who was bonded to a Naval Officer.

Thomas Crump, who had originally worked as a Shipbuilder in Newcastle, was a White-smith and Shipwright who appears to have had his own business in the Hawkesbury District, in which he built and owned seafaring vessels[15], possibly working with his son Thomas Crumpton[20]. It appears he may also have been involved in the transportation of goods as per the following article. "We are sorry to report the loss of the small colonial sloop William Broughton, Thomas Crump owner, in a boisterous gale on the 8th instant a few miles south of Botany Bay Heads. She was laden with wheat and corn; and what renders the account more distressing, is to report the loss of three lives, namely, George Colston master; James Carney one of the crew; and Edward Yarley (sic), a settler at Hawkesbury, who leaves a wife and two children to lament his premature end."[21].

He was quite influential during this time, and owned a house named "Crump House" which was still so named well into the 1900s. At one stage there was a discrepancy over the ownership, for which Thomas needed confirmation[22].

The relationship with Mary Johnson had completely broken down by 1826 as Mary applied for their sons Francis, Samuel and Charles to be accepted into an Orphan Home on 23 July 1928, stating that Thomas had left her two years previously and as she had a younger child to support she was not able to provide for them[23]. The application for admittance of Francis, Samuel & Charles to the orphanage records that her husband Thomas was not supporting her [24].

In the Census of 1828 he recorded as being aged 58 years and in the household of his son Thomas, and daughter-in-law Eleanor, at Lower Portland Head where he and his son worked together as boat-builders[1]There appears to be no record for the death of Thomas Crump. Some researchers claim he died at Hawkesbury River in 1830 but there are sources pointing to him being alive a number of times during the 1830's, in 1841, and perhaps even as late as 1856. Rev Alfred Glennie Minister of Brisbane Water Anglican Parish wrote in his diary 1856 5 June states 'poor Crumpton very sick and wont survive'. he was not referring to son Thomas. On this basis I have made a Find a Grave Memorial 256200626.

On 18 September 1834, a notice in the Sydney Gazette and NSW Advertiser (18.Sep 1834) asked that he collect his tools or they would be sold to pay expenses incurred for board and lodging[25] and on 5 January 1838 there is a newspaper article citing Thomas as informant of a man who suspected of stealing as reported in The Australian (Sydney, NSW : 1824 - 1848)[26]

Thomas had hit extremely hard times as in January 1840 he was charged with refusing to work and was sentenced to one month hard labour. By this time it seems he was very disorderly and drinking heavily[27]. Another contemporary report tells that Thomas was working as a servant at the time of his arrest, a role to which a freedom-loving man such as himself was not totally suited[28].

Again, this time, as reported on 28 November 1840, he was "convicted of being an idle and disorderly person" and sent to the Benevolent Asylum for two months. "Thomas Crump, an unfortunate old grey-beard, above seventy years of age, who arrived in the colony in 1792, was received under the vagrant act for two months, having been convicted of being an idle and disorderly person. He is a smith by trade, but is a fitter inmate for the Benevolent Asylum than the gaol."[29].

Less than three months later, on 9 February 1841 Thomas was admitted to the Sydney Gaol. This document confirms the correct Thomas Crump by his place of birth as Staffordshire, England, his year of arrival 1792, the actual year of arrival was 1794, and the ship he arrived on "Surprise" ("Surprize").

Although no later records have been found naming him, there is reason to believe that he may have lived until 1856, as the diary of Reverend Alfred Glennie mentions this visit to the Crumptons in an entry from 5. Jun 1856[30]:

"...Monday I spent among the people at the lower part of the creek, & among others visited the old man Goddard, who was so ill the last time I was at Mangrove. I found him apparently drawing very near his end, & could only try to impress upon him the necessity of acquiring that "broken and contrite heart" so essential for procuring the pardon of his sins. He died early on Tuesday morning - Having learnt from Wm. Woodbury on Monday that Crumpton was very seriously ill, I arranged to go down and see him on Tuesday , & accordingly did so - one of Woodbury's boys taking me in the boat.- it turned out a very unfavourable day, for heavy rain came on when about halfway there, & continued some 2 hours or more. - I found poor Crumpton very ill and doubt whether he will recover"...

As his son did not die until 1874 this could refer to Thomas, however there is no death registration at New South Wales BDM to support this.

Thomas Crump in the New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Book
[31]

Thomas was one of the original settlers in the Hawkesbury District and eventually became a landowner, farmer, and businessman, Ultimately working with his son Thomas Jr, building and owning ships. He is remembered as being a Pioneer of the Hawkesbury area on a monument commemorating the early pioneers who were predominately Convicts.


Memorial honouring Hawkesbury Early Pioneers
Thomas Crump Named on the Memorial

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Census 1828:"Sainty & Johnson; "1828 Census of New South Wales:" Page 110…[Ref C3166] Text: Crumpton, Thomas (Jun), 31, born in the colony, Protestant, boatbuilder, Lower Portland Head; Crumpton, Eleanor, 18, born in the colony; Crumpton, Elizabeth, born in the colony; Crumpton, Thomas, (Sen), 58; Crumpton, Arthur Benj, 13, born in the colony
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 "Admiralty Correspondence, Tuesday the 5th September 1797" Citing Hannah Crumpton as Mother: Received Mr. J. Scholefield (Tin-plate Worker No. 116 Old Street 2nd Septr.) says that Hannah Crumpton who works in his Manufactory, has a Son at New South Wales whose several letters to his Mother shew an Appearance of Reformation. -says, that the Young Man was bred a White-Smith, that he begs hard for a few Implements to enable him to get forward in Life, & that his friends would willingly gratify him if the Board would permit ye Barwell Convict Ship to Convey to him a Case about 2 feet by 1 foot, & 1 foot deep, Containing a Vice, Files, Hammers, & &. -says, that they would gladly have sent him a pair of Bellows, but feared it would be thought too Bulky an Article.--Sent:-Mr. Scholefield is told, that the Board permits him to send the Box of Tools, as also the Smith's Bellows, to Thomas Crompton – is directed to apply to Capt. Rains, who will, on Sight of the Board's letter, order the Articles to be received on board the Barwell, which now lies at Long Reach.
  3. Possibly this information came from the IGI records of the LDS Church, which shows a Thomas Crump b. 17 Oct 1770 in Ribbesford, Worcester, England. This is a possibility but not definite.
  4. 4.0 4.1 "England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL3T-9FTC : 9 March 2018), Thomas Crompton, 1771. Citing: Name: Thomas Crompton Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 11 Aug 1771 Event Place: Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Parish: St Peter Father's Name: Thomas Crompton Mother's Name: Hannah Crompton Affiliate Image Identifier: D1157/1/1/5
  5. Old Bailey Transcript No: t17920912-80: 438. THOMAS CRUMP was indicted for burglariously and feloniously breaking and entering the the dwelling house of Sarah Thompson, no person being therein, about the hour of five in the afternoon, of the second day of July last, and burglariously stealing therein, twenty eight guineas, two silver table spoons, value 16 s. three silver tea spoons, value 6 s. one silver milk pot, value 15. two gowns, value 3 l. and a pair of silver tea tongs, value 6 s. her property. Verdict: Guilty Punishment: Death
  6. State Library of Queensland: "Criminal : Convict Transportation Register": Thomas Crump, one of 94 convicts transported on the Surprize, February 1794. Sentence details: Convicted at London Gaol Delivery for a term of life on 12 December 1792. Vessel: Surprize. Date of Departure: February 1794. Place of Arrival: New South Wales. Source: Australian Joint Copying Project. Microfilm Roll 87, Class and Piece Number HO11/1, Page Number 195 (98)
  7. Home Office: Settlers and Convicts, New South Wales and Tasmania; (The National Archives Microfilm Publication HO10, Pieces 1-4, 6-18, 28-30); The National Archives of the UK (TNA), Kew, Surrey, England. https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1183/images/IMAUS1787_114217-00560?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=aa4497564&_phstart=successSource&pId=65751
  8. "NSW Convict Women on Ships arriving from England and Ireland 1788-1828" Surprize - Arrived 25 October, 1794. Sailed 2/5/1794 from Cork in 176 days.
  9. Marriage: New South Wales Australia Marriages: Registration number 239/1797 V1797239 4 Groom's Family Name CRUMP Groom's Given Name(s) THOMAS Bride's Family Name(s) HARRISON Bride's Given Name(s) MARY District C
  10. "Australia Marriages, 1810-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTZP-GQ1 : accessed 2 June 2016), Thomas Crump and Mary Harrison, 12 Mar 1797; citing Church Of England, New South Wales, Australia, reference ; FHL microfilm 0993949 IT 2-8. Citing: Name Thomas Crump Spouse's Name Mary Harrison Event Date 12 Mar 1797 Event Place Port Jackson, New South Wales, Australia
  11. "Australia Marriages, 1810-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTZP-G7M : 10 February 2018), Thomas Crump and Mary Harrison, 12 Mar 1797; citing Church Of England, New South Wales, Australia, reference ; FHL microfilm 0993949 IT 2-8. Citing: Name Thomas Crump Spouse's Name Mary Harrison Event Date 12 Mar 1797 Event Place Church Of England, New South Wales, Australia
  12. Australian Dictionary of Biography: Sir Charles Menzies (1783-1866):
  13. Second settlement at Newcastle: "PROGRESS OF THE SETTLEMENT" at Coal River
  14. 14.0 14.1 Free Settler or Felon: Thomas Crump
  15. 15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3 15.4 15.5
    * 30 Jan 1810 -Boat Builder Newcastle. Received his emancipation from Lieutenant Governor Paterson and wished to return to Sydney. ( Reel 6042; 9/2736 p 45)
    * 3 February 1810 - To be returned at Newcastle as emancipation was illegal (Reel 6002; 4/3490B p 61)
    * 1810 Mar, Aug 9 -Blacksmith, carpenter and boatbuilder. Petition for mitigation of sentence (Fiche 3164; 4/1846 pp.55-6)
    * 1810 Aug 9 -Re Crump's application to return to Sydney (Reel 6002; 4/3490C p.155)
    * '1810 Oct 3 -Permitted to come to Sydney on private business (Reel 6003; 4/3490A pp.92-3)
    * 1810 Oct 10 -Going to Sydney (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.45)
    * 1810 Oct 26 -To be returned to Newcastle per "Resource" (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.124)
    * 1810 Dec 29; 1811 Jan 22 -Permitted to attend Court of Civil Jurisdiction Sydney (Reel 6003; 4/3490A pp.142, 146)
    * 1811 Jan 22 -Requesting a pass to go to Sydney (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.57)
    * 1811 Jan 23 -Discovered to be in Sydney already (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.148)
    * 1811 Apr 30 -Bad conduct of (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.72)
    * 1811 Dec 18 -Mary Johnson living with him (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.102)
    * 1811 Dec 27 -Re Mary Johnson, prisoner at Newcastle (Reel 6002; 4/3491 p.138)
    * 1812 May 29 -Time expired (Reel 6066; 4/1804 p.111)
    * 1812 Oct 24 -Paid from Police Fund for a house purchased from him by Government (Reel 6038; SZ758 p.322)
    * 1813 Apr 12 -Re permission for Crumb to embark for voyage to New Zealand (Reel 6002; 4/3491 p.426)
    * 1813 Apr 12 -Was permitted to proceed on "Queen Charlotte" on execution by Captain of bond for his return to New South Wales (Reel 6043; 4/1728 p.358)
    * 1815 Aug 29 -Blacksmith of Sydney. Bond to Naval Officer; signed as Crumpton (Fiche 3294; X702 pp.119-21)
  16. Conditional Pardon: CRUMP, Thomas: Ship of Arrival: Surprize 1794-29 Feb 1812 Conditional Pardon [4/4430; Reel 774 Page 057
  17. Absolute Pardon: "State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia"; Card Index to Letters Received, Colonial Secretary; Reel Number: 774; Roll Number: 1250 Citing: Name: Thomas Crump Trial Locatio: London, England Conviction Date: 12 Dec 1792 Arrival Year: 1794 Pardon Date: 29 Feb 1812 Vessel Name: Surprise Record Type: Absolute
  18. Sale of House: The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW: 1803 - 1842) Sat 24 Oct 1812 Page 2 GOVERNMENT AND GENERAL ORDERS: Thomas Crump, for a House purchased from him by Government, at Newcastle £10
  19. "Thomas Crump in the New South Wales, Australia, Colonial Secretary's Papers, 1788-1856" Citing: Name: Thomas Crump Event Date: 12 Apr 1813 Vessel: Surprise Event Description: Re permission for Crumb to embark for voyage to New Zealand Comments: Per "Surprise" Page: 426
  20. Biographical database of Australia: CRUMPTON, Thomas: CRUMPTON, Thomas (Boatbuilder Lower Hawkesbury, NSW, AUS
  21. The Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter (Tas. : 1816 - 1821) Sat 7 Oct 1820 Page 2 No title: From the last received Sydney Gazettes we copy following: (The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser, Saturday 22 July 1820)
  22. The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW: 1803 - 1842) Sun 18 Jun 1809 Page 1 Classified Advertising: I do hereby forbid all Persons purchasing the Premises known by the name of Crump's House, situate between Mr. Underwood's and Mr. Redmond's, until the Holder thereof shows by what authority he holds the said Premises. Thomas Crump.
  23. "New South Wales, Australia, Applications and Admissions to Orphan Schools, 1817-1833" Name: Charles Crump Record Type: Applications for Admission Date of Application or Admission: 23 Jul 1828 Father Name: Thomas Crump Mother Name: Mary Johnston Petitioner Name: Mary Johnston Name: Francis Crump Record Type: Applications for Admission Date of Application or Admission: 23 Jul 1828 Father Name: Thomas Crump Mother Name: Mary Johnston Petitioner Name: Mary Johnston Name: Samuel Crump Record Type: Applications for Admission Date of Application or Admission: 23 Jul 1828 Father Name: Thomas Crump Mother Name: Mary Johnston Petitioner Name: Mary Johnston Source Citation: State Archives NSW; Series: NRS 782; Item: [4/330]; Roll: 2776; Page: 265 See Original Image: "Applications for admission into the Orphan Schools". Series 782, microfilm copy State Records Reels 2776-2777. State Records Authority of New South Wales, Kingswood, New South Wales.
  24. "NSW Govt. State Archives & Records Child Care & Protection": Crump:]
  25. Sydney Gazette and NSW Advertiser (18.Sep 1834): "If Thomas Crump, Blacksmith, does not within 14 days from the date hereof release his Box and Anvil, the same will be sold to pay the expenses of board and lodging due to me, Mary Sherrott."
  26. LAW. SYDNEY QUARTER SESSIONS. (Article), The Australian (Sydney, NSW: 1824 - 1848) Friday 5 January 1838 Issue No.468 page 3, "Peter Lawson was indicted for stealing sundry mason's tools from an unfinished building in Liverpool-street, which tools were the property of Thomas Smith. The prosecutor, a mason, had left the building to go to his dinner, on the 9th November last, and during his absence his tools were stolen. The prisoner offered the tools for sale on the same day that they were stolen to a man named Thomas Crump, who, seeing that they were marked, suspected them to be stolen, and took both the tools and the prisoner to the house of his adopted son, Joseph Webb, a blacksmith, who was in the habit of marking similar tools for workmen, so as to enable them to know their own. On the road however to Webb's house, who happened to live next door to the building where the tools had been stolen from, the prisoner attempted to make his escape, but was prevented. Webb at once identified the tools as belonging to Smith, he having marked them for him, and the prisoner was thereupon given into custody. The Jury found the prisoner guilty, and the Court sentenced him to be worked in an ironed gang for two years
  27. Police Incident: The Sydney Gazette and New South Wales Advertiser (NSW: 1803 - 1842) Sat 7 Mar 1840 Page 2 Police Incidents: "Thomas Crump was charged by Mr. Thomas James Walker with having in January last, agreed to be in his service for three months and with having on Wednesday morning, at ten o'clock, got drunk, used very bad and obscene language to Mr. W, gone to bed at that time of day, and when ordered by his master to get up and do his work, refusing to do so. Sentenced to hard labour in the House of Correction for one calendar month."
  28. "'Drunkard:"'[https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32167459 The Sydney Monitor and Commercial Advertiser (NSW: 1838 - 1841) Mon 9 Mar 1840 Page 3 Drunkards:] "Thomas Crump (who was remanded) charged with neglect of duty, drunkenness, and using obscene language. Thomas James Walker deposed, that he hired the prisoner for three months in January last; prisoner is a free hired servant; got drunk, and went to bed at 10 o'clock A. M. One month to House of Correction."
  29. The Colonist (Sydney, NSW: 1835-1840) Sat 28 Nov 1840 Page 3 QUARTER SESSIONS: "Thomas Crump, an unfortunate old grey-beard, above seventy years of age, who arrived in the colony in 1792, was received under the vagrant act for two months, having been convicted of being an idle and disorderly person. He is a smith by trade, but is a fitter inmate for the Benevolent Asylum than the gaol."
  30. https://issuu.com/gosford_council/docs/rev_alfred_glennie_journals_1855-60
  31. "New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930" Name: Thomas Crump Birth Place: Staffordshire, England Arrival Year: 1792 Arrival Country: Australia Vessel Arrived In: Surprise Date of Admission/Photo: 9 Feb 1841Gaol: Sydney Gaol Location: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Record Type: Entrance Book View Image: (Behind Ancestry Paywall)
  • COLONIAL SECRETARY INDEX 1788 - 1825 CRUMP, Thomas. - per "SURPRISE"
30 Jan 1810 -Boat Builder Newcastle. Received his emancipation from Lieutenant Governor Paterson and wished to return to Sydney. ( Reel 6042; 9/2736 p 45)
3 February 1810 - To be returned at Newcastle as emancipation was illegal (Reel 6002; 4/3490B p 61)

Research Notes

  • 1810, Aug 9; George Crossley, (Ship: Hillsborough, Year: 1799): Petition on behalf of Thomas Crump for mitigation of sentence: I beg of you to do me the Honour to State to His Excellency the case of one Thomas Crump at the Coal River.

This man is very ingenious and has been in this Colony at work for the Government eighteen years he is an honest industrious and hard working man, a good blacksmith, a carpenter and excellent boat builder, and was for many years armourer to the New South Wales Corps, but when Governor Hunter left the Country he made an attempt to escape in the Governors vessel without his leave and was sent back from the cape, and for that offence sent to the Coal River, and been there near six years as I believe.
When the revolution happened in this Colony, with Mr Throsby’s permission I went to reside at this man’s house, and having resided there near fourteen months, I can certify him an honest fair dealing man, not at all like the general characters sent to that place.
The reasons that I explained to Commodore Bligh I requested him to procure for this man a pardon which he promised he would and put down his name as recommended by me for a free pardon and said he would sent it out from England, but on hearing the Commodore was applying to His Excellency for Pardons for some men, I requested he would on my request ask that favour of His Excellency here, and he did me the honour to shew me a list he sent to His Excellency in which this man’s name was inserted for a free pardon; he is also one of those that Colonel Paterson granted a pardon to in consequence of his having done some extra work for Government during that time, and that pardon being set aside he now remains at the Coal River.
My humble request to His Excellency is that he will be so good as let this man come to Sydney and if he would so far condescend as to let him off the store, I will be security for his good conduct, and it will be a deed of Justice and Charity to a man whose heart is nearly broken. ———————- The Most Humble Petition of Thomas Crump Most Humbly Sheweth that your petitioner has laboured under the heavy sentence of transportation for nearly 18 years during which period has been in the continued employ of Government.
Petitioner most—- begs leave to acquaint your Excellency of his having a wife and 2 children now living at Sydney which for upwards of these 8 years last past has not had the happiness of enjoying.
Those comforts———to a marriage state, the sole reason of——- a separation is that Petitioner was sent to Norfolk Island at which settlement he remained near four years and since his leaving that Island has been employed at Newcastle without hope of ever leaving it when in consideration of the length of time he has been in the colony as well his long service for government. His Honour Colonel Paterson was pleased to remit the residue of his sentence conditionally, which instrument was forwarded to Newcastle but on seeing Your proclamation he embraced the earliest opportunity for delivery up again.
Petitioner most humbly implores Your Excellency will be most generously pleased to confirm his emancipation that he may again return to his family which have been such a length of time entirely lost to him…


Secretary’s Office 27 Dec 1811 Sir, I have been honoured with your note of enquiry respecting a woman named Mary Johnson, and I beg leave to quote what Mr Tho Howe wrote to me on the 18th instant per the Sally respecting her “By the vessel I sent to Sydney a woman of the name of Mary Johnson who came down here in Mr Purcell’s time with a lass of Col O’Connells. She then living and she has since with a prisoner of the name of Crump - but their behaviour has been so troublesome I have thought proper to separate them, partly in short at the request of the woman, she will report herself at your office at any time…

Events

Confirmation required: Part of this story is incorrect as the "Queen Charlotte" exploded and burned up on 17 March 1800, and only 165 survived the blast and were picked up by other vessels in the area. In all 673 officers and men perished in the disaster. There was a second Queen Charlotte which was not launched until 1810, The demise of the HMS "Queen Charlotte".
On 21 October 1800 Thomas stowed away on the "Buffalo" bound for England<Date fits: The Buffalo 1800 Buffalo arrived at Port Jackson on 25 April 1799, having brought cattle from the Cape of Good Hope. She left for the Cape on 13 September 1799. She returned on 15 April 1800 with more cattle from the Cape. On 21 October 1800, she sailed for England under the command of William Kent. Buffalo left Port Jackson carrying Captain John Hunter, the former governor of New South Wales. She also carried two black swans and three emus, all five of which survived to reach England. Dragged out of his hiding place he was placed in irons and left in the Dungeons at the Cape until the "Queen Charlotte" arrived and returned him to Sydney in chains (A Source is Required).
He then spent time in Newcastle where he met Mary Johnson (Source Required). Mary Johnson (prisoner at Newcastle) was living with him on 18 December 1811. No record of a marriage has been found. They returned to Sydney area where they lived in the lower Portland district. They lived toward the southern end of Cambridge St with their children (Source Required).
Children with Mary Johnson: Maria Crump, Birth: 1812, New South Wales, Australia, Caroline Crump, Birth: about 1814, New South Wales, Australia - Death: August 9, 1881 North Richmond, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia, Arthur Benjamin Crumpton, Birth: 1815, New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1861 Gosford, Hunter, New South Wales, Australia, Harriet Crump, Birth: 1817 , New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1835 Richmond, Hawkesbury, New South Wales, Australia, Son- Francis Crumpton, Birth: 1819, New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1883 Mudgee, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia, Samuel Crump, Birth: 1821, New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1867 Wee Waa, North West Slopes and Plains, New South Wales, Australia, Charles Crumpton, Birth: 1823, New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1864 Redfern, Greater Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, Hannah Crump, Birth: 1825, New South Wales, Australia - Death: 1901 Orange, Central Tablelands, New South Wales, Australia
Alias: Crumpton on his Transportation documents.
His oldest son Thomas was known as Crumpton and his second son Isaac was known as Crump. Further children were known by Crump or Crumpton depending on the source or circumstance. Even Genealogy sites have different spelling of the same people or members in the family.
He was often called Crumpton when he arrived in Australia but all official documents appear to record him as Crump.
By January 1810 he was a boat builder with his son Thomas in the Hawkesbury River/Newcastle area.
Thomas received his emancipation from Lieutenant Governor Paterson on 30 January 1810 and wished to return to Sydney, but by 3 February 1810 was returned to Newcastle as the emancipation was said to be illegal.
March 1810. he petitioned for mitigation of his sentence.
His Occupation was listed as, blacksmith, carpenter and boat builder.
Thomas had land grants in the Sydney area and for a while was one of the top traders in Sydney

Notes

Without support Mary Johnson and her children became destitute. The application for admittance of Francis, Samuel & Charles to the orphanage records that her husband Thomas was not supporting her "NSW Govt. State Archives & Records Child Care & Protection": Crump. The boys were put into an orphanage, and were taken out by Dr. Reed (Unconfirmed). Francis was apprenticed to D Reed as a Servant. Dr. Reed had property known as Inverarity and it is in a place called Bungonia near Goulburn. Dr. Reed died a few years later and the Children were supposedly able to care for themselves by then.
Thomas Crumpton Jr. (son) had land at Sydney and in the Newcastle area which he sold to W.G. Wentworth who was one of the explorers, for 10 pounds(Source Required).
He was a successful boat builder in the lower Portland area. He built a boat and sailed it to Tahiti, then returned to Sydney. There is a large house in the Lower Portland area which was still in the Crumpton family until fairly recently (Source Required).
Charles' (Thomas' son) Will mentions his sister Harriet (Source Required).
Charles became a quarryman and married Ellen Hennesey (Source Required). Fredrick Charles Crumpton was born June 26, 1864. at Shepherd's Paddocks.


Links

[1] [2][3] [4] [5] [6] [[Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, Applications and Admissions to Orphan Schools, 1817-1833 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010]]





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Hi James. Thanks for that. I haven't been able to find the LDS Source for Thomas' birth, only the possible Christening. I agree, that it the christening is Thomas's as this mother's name was Hannah according to the letter he sent to her re sending out his tools, so I think both dates may be correct. His birth in 1770, Baptised. in 1771. Did you notice I found that he was still alive in Nov 1840 & in Feb 1841? Between us, we may find even more details as new sources come to light. Hopefully a record his Death eventually :) I trust you're well. Regards, Eileen
Hi Eileen, please see my comment in the source for Thomas' birth date (3)
posted by James Hoffmann
Thomas did not die in 1830 as some sources seem to report (I could not access the bda-online reference given to support the 1830 death as not a subscriber).

He is mentioned as being alive and kicking in January 1838 when a thief offered to sell some stolen tools to him. Crump(ton) took the tools to his adopted son Joseph Webb, a blacksmith who identified the owner and reported the crime to the police!

posted by James Hoffmann

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