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Susannah Caroline Priber (abt. 1742 - abt. 1764)

Susannah Caroline Priber
Born about in Cherokee Nation, North Carolinamap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [uncertain]
Sister of
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died about at about age 22 in Clay, Kentuckymap [uncertain]
Profile last modified | Created 10 Feb 2014
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.
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Disputed Existence

A previous version of this profile claimed, without source, that she was a Member of the Ani'-Ga'tâge'wi or Kitua ("Wild Potato") Clan of the Cherokee.

Susan Priber has been long considered the wife of Aaron, Redbird Brock. This relationship is disputed (see below). Recently credible information has been submitted which claims that Redbird's wife is/was Susan Caroline Sizemore. There is significant documentation to substantiate that claim, and it is being honored as a far more credible claim, as Redbird's wife. Added by Garrett-4589

No evidence exists that would suggest that this woman ever lived. Of course Jesse Brock had a mother, just not this mother. There is no single document to support this claim.

Until the 1960s, Christian Priber was considered by most to be a Jesuit Priest. Hardly the type who would be marrying and having children. Further research in the late 1970s revealed his German ancestry and his wife and children. Part of Pribers Utopian manifesto was the total abolition of marriage.

No book or article written about Priber prior to the 1990s mentioned a Native wife or children. It was not until the rise of Internet "genealogy" did Priber acquire a Native American family. This family evolved over the years into what it is today. However, to this date, not a single piece of evidence has been offered to prove these claims.

Consider the profile for this woman Susanna Caroline (Davis) Moytoy. In her first Internet incarnation, she was Susan Christian Davis, the wife of Reuben Brock. Reuben had been replaced by Aaron and her middle name is now Caroline.

The woman in this profile was born about 1742. Her supposed father was in prision by Feb. 1743. The very latest she could have been born was late 1743. We are supposed to believe that she married Aaron Brock, her first cousin, by 1747 at the age of 5 and gave birth to her first child at age 6. Clearly this is false. The reason I point out the fact that they were first cousins is that this it is forbidden for first and second cousins to marry in Cherokee culture.

After their 'marriage' this Native American couple supposedly moved from Cherokee territory to live as English colonists in Cumberland, County Virginia where their son Jesse was born in 1751. Although no record can be found for Aaron Brock anywhere. (The volume of WikiTree information regarding Aaron, Redbird Brock seems far too extensive to totally disregard. Garrett-4589)

This current information can be found all over the Internet and in published books such as the discredited Shawnee Heritage Books. There are other recent books which push this claim, one such is referenced below. The one thing these all have in common is that they offer no sources for their claims. Yet, they are happy to take your money.

[1] [2]

Added note regarding Cherokee marriage customs : [http://www.aaanativearts.com/cherokee/cherokee-marriage-customs.htm Cherokee Marriage Customs Between the Clans ]

Cherokee marriages were as much between the Grandmothers of a clan as between the couple themselves. It was not permitted to marry within your own clan. A potential suitor had to select a young woman from another clan. Typically, the clan leaders would be consulted before such a selection was made.

Elias Boudinot wrote the following article in The Cherokee Editor on February 18, 1829 regarding Cherokee Clan marriage customs: ...This simple division of the Cherokees formed the grand work by which marriages were regulated, and murder punished. A Cherokee could marry into any of the clans except two, that to which his father belongs, for all of that clan are his fathers and aunts and that to which his mother belongs, for all of that clan are his brothers and sisters, a child invariably inheriting the clan of the mother.

Sources

  1. Jeanne Roberts, Christian Gottlieb Priber (Indian Reservations Blog), June 2017
  2. Jeanne Roberts, Aaron Brock Red Bird, father of Jesse? (Indian Resevations Blog0, June 2017




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Jeanie is correct on most, perhaps all, points: The timelines and relationships simply do not add up, and this Profile rightly falls into the category of Disputed Biography.

Since this Profile has broad following, I suggest that it be retained, with all its flaws, in plain sight. Perhaps with time, a clearer picture of these relationships may emerge. If not, this flawed profile will remain as a learning example. Garrett-4589

posted by Rhitt Garrett
Christian Priber did not leave England, to which he had fled from Germany, until 1735. He arrived by fall of that year to Charleson, SC. He made his way to Great Tellico in 1736. This woman, if she existed could not have been born before 1737 or later. How could she possible be married by 1748 and giving birth to Moytoy II at the age of no more than 11.

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