Ermesinde
de Brienne
formerly Brienne aka de Bar-Sur-Seine
Born before in Bar-sur-Seine, Aube, Champagne
Ancestors 
Sister of
Milon (de Bar) de Bar-sur-Seine
Wife of
Jean (Bar-le-Duc) Bar
— married
1189 in Brie, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
Descendants 
Mother of
Henri (Bar-le-Duc) de Bar-le-Duc and Marguerite (Bar) de Bar
Died after
after age 65
in Champagne, Dordogne, Aquitaine, France
Profile last modified
| Created 14 Jan 2011
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Biography
Ermesinde was born before 1146[1]. Wife of Thiebault (de Bar) Bar-le-Duc — married 1189 in Brie, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
- Birth: ABT 1158, Bar-sur-Seine, Aube, Champagne
- Ermesinde de Brienne, died after 1211; she married first Anseau de Trainel (died 1188/9); and second in 1189 (and divorced ca 1195) Count Theobald I of Bar and Mousson (died 1214) [2]
Source
- ↑ Burke's Peerage. Medieval Lands does not list a DOD. What makes this date of birth a little unlikely is that her brother (from the same mother) had two children before his death in 1151. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#MilonBarsurSeinedied1151
- ↑ de Brienne family Genealogy Brienne, de Brienne
- Cawley, Charles. "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmesindeBarSeineM2ThibautBar
- Mosley, Charles, editor. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes. Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999.
- Richardson, Douglas : Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, page 235
Acknowledgements
- This person was created on 12 September 2010 through the import of 104-B.ged.
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Categories: Estimated Birth Date
edited by Malc Rowlands
Is there possibly a missing generation? I do have a book studying the early Comtes de Bar, but won't be able to check for another 3 or 4 days.
edited by John Atkinson
Looks like the LNAB should still be corrected to either just Bar-sur-Seine or Brienne ?Medieval Lands indeed uses 'de Brienne' and some other sources do as well, but there also are sources that name her de Bar-sur-Seine, so not sure what's the best LNAB would be for her ? Ideas ?
Greets and thanks for the help it's appreciated,
Bea :)