Walter (Cantilupe) de Cantilupe (abt. 1133 - 1204)

CANTILUPE alias CANTILOUPE FAMILY OF LINCOLNSHIRE

William I de Cantilupe was the son and heir of Walter I de Cantilupe of Lincolnshire and entered the future king John's household as his steward in 1198. Was to remain loyal to John throughout the latter's turbulent reign. He was described by Wendover as being one of John's evil counsellors, no doubt due his role of what Holden describes as being the gaoler of the baronial hostages. William was to benefit from John's grants of lands that were confiscated from those landholders that chose to remain in Normandy post 1204, and also granted custody of lands confiscated from many of the baronial rebels 1215-1216. He was able to survive the faction-fighting of Henry III's early reign, siding with Hubert de Burgh or Peter de Roches as necessary. His position as royal steward brought him into close contact with the kings whom he served, that gave him the opportunity for collecting custodies and wardships and raise his family status, as well as ensuring his heir with a position at court. William II de Cantilupe demonstrated by his appointments as arbitrator and diplomatic representative, as as a custodian of the kingdom in the king's absence, the continuing trust in and reliance upon his household which Henry III showed in the late 1230's and 1240's. His obtaining the custody of Eva de Braose in 1239, and eventual marriage to his heir, made the Cantilupes, for a time, a power in the Welsh marches. With reference to “Bruton Cartulary ” - The Cantilupe family were Norman in origin with the patriarch possibly being Alexander I de Cantilupe, who, an inquisition held in 1329 recorded “came into England with William le Bastard, and he then had ex conquestu the hundred of Bruton. And afterwards the heirs of the said Alexander, together with the other Normans were exiled from England, and then the king had the said two marks by escheat of the Normans.”

CONNECTION UNKNOWN

CANTILUPE ALEXANDER I Father of Alexander II, grandfather of Ralph Cantilupe

[SRS V8, page 102/3] Not dated. Bruton Cartulary - No. 380. Inquisition made at Cherlton Mucegros on the morrow of the Ascension, 3 Edward III [1329] before Robert de Radyngton, sub-escheator of the king in the counties of Somerset and Devon, by ------------------. Who say that Alexander de Cantelupe came into England with William le Bastard, and he then had ex conquestu the hundred of Bruton. And in his seisin he enfeoffed the priory of Bruton of the said hundred, rendering to him and his heirs two marks annually. And from that time the canons of Bruton held, and as yet hold the said hundred of the king in chief; rendering two marks annually.

[SRS V8, page xviii] Introduction - [c1242-1254] As sheriff William de Moion would have to administer the estates of the Crown and he had therefore been for a time officially connected with Bruton. His son William was made earl (comes) by Queen Matilda, and it would appear that at some time in the early part of the twelfth century, if not before, William the earl was enfeoffed of the manor and advowson of Bruton while the Norman family of Cantilupe received the smaller post-domesday hundred of Bruton.

References

Oxford Dictionary National Biography – Cantilupe [Cantelupe], William [I] de [d.1239], Cantilupe [Cantelupe], William [II] de [d. 1251] by B.W. Holden, William [III] de [d. 1254] by Robert C. Stacey

“Two Cartularies of the Augustinian Priory of Bruton and the Cluniac Priory of Montacute in the county of Somerset.” Volume 8. Edited by Members of Council. Published by the Somerset Record Society. Pages xviii, 102/3. Accessed State Library of Victoria [onsite storage].

“Great Roll of the Pipe for the ------ year of the reign of King Henry the Second: -----:” Published by the Pipe Roll Society. Accessed Baillieu Library, University of Melbourne

CANTILUPE WALTER Parentage not confirmed from a primary reference.

[PR 22HII , page 195] 1175/6. Hantescria - Walterus de Cantelu debet .xx. m. pro eodem.

[PR 23HII, page xxvi ] 1176/7. Introduction –The lists of knights on the great fiefs of Mandeville and of Ferrers (pp. 61, 150) are of some genealogical interest, such entries as ' Daueberga Willelmi de Hairon ' and ' Heinstewurtha Walteri de Cantelu ' being specially valuable.

[PR 23HII, pages 150,173] 1176/7. De hominibus comitis Willelmi pro foresta. Idem vicecomes redd. comp. de -------. Et de .ij. to de misericordia de Heinstewurda Walteri de Cantelu Sudhantescria -Walterus de Cantelu redd. comp. de .xx. m. pro eodem. In thesauro .xx. Et in perdona per breve regis ipsi Waltero .x. m. Et debet .c. et .xiij. s. et .iiij. d.

[PR 27HII, page 96] 1180/1. Wiltescr’. - De misericordia regis pro foresta. Walterus de Cantelu debet .c. et .xiij. s. et .iiij. d. de misericordia pro foresta quirequirebantur in Sudhantesr'.

[SRS V8 , page 129] 6 May 1192. Montacute Cartulary – No. 15. John, count of Mortain, grants to the monastery of Montacute and the Cluniac monks there a park near Montagu, to be held by them on the same free terms as he or his ancestors held it. Witnesses: -----------------; Walter de Cantelo; Fulk his brother: --------------------.At Dorchester, in the third year of the reign of King Richard, on the Feast of St. John ante Portam Latinam. [6 May, 1192.]

[SRS V6, page 15] 1202/3. 47. At Westminster fifteen days from the day of St. --------- between Walter de Cantelupe, claimant; and Robert de Cantelupe, tenent ; for all the vill of Childeton. The Great Assise was summoned between them. Robert acknowledged all the said vill to be the right of Walter; for this concord Walter conceded to Robert all the said vill to be held by the service of one knight's fee for all service: for this concession Robert gave Walter twenty eight marcs of money, and thereupon Walter did homage to Robert in the Court.

References

“Great Roll of the Pipe for the 23rd year of the reign of King Henry the Second: A.D. 1176/7:” Published by the Pipe Roll Society. Introduction by J. H. Round. Accessed Baillieu Library, University of Melbourne.

“Two Cartularies of the Augustinian Priory of Bruton and the Cluniac Priory of Montacute in the county of Somerset.”. Volume 8. Edited by Members of Council. Published by the Somerset Record Society. Accessed State Library of Victoria [onsite storage]. "Pedes Finium, commonly called Feet of Fines, for the County of Somerset." Volume 6. Edited by Emanuel Green. Privately printed and published by the Somerset Record Society. Accessed State Library of Victoria [Onsite storage]

Could we perhaps achieve some precision over his alleged birthplace? If it is meant to be the island of Jersey, was it in fact part of England in 1133? And I'm also having considerable difficulty over identifying his alleged place of death. Wikipedia is cited as a source, but mentions neither. Cawley too is cited as a source, but mentions neither. In addition, the name of his wife is not in either claimed source. Could the profile managers possibly share the origins of their information with us?

No source or proof of his mother being Ermengarde of Maine

DeCantilupe-12 and Cantilupe-38 appear to represent the same person because: Wrong parents on 12's side.