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Richard (Braose) de Brewes (bef. 1232 - abt. 1292)

Sir Richard de Brewes formerly Braose aka de Breuse
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Husband of — married before 9 Sep 1265 in Englandmap
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Died about after about age 60 in Englandmap
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Biography

Richard de Brewes (or Brewse, Breuse),[1] younger son of John de Brewes and his wife Margaret ferch Llywelyn, was born before 1232.[2]
Father: John de Brewes, "lord of Gower, also of Bramber, Sussex, Buckingham and Bourton, Buckinghamshire",[2] son of William de Brewes of Bramber and Maud de Clare (daughter of surety baron Richard de Clare, Knt.).[3]
Mother: Margaret of Wales, daughter of Llywelyn ap Iorwerth, Prince of North Wales.[2]
Richard de Brewes, Knt., married Alice le Rus, daughter of William le Rus and Agatha de Clere, before 9 September 1265 as her second husband. Alice was the widow of Richard Longespée, Knt. (died 1261). She was born about 1246 ("25 Dec. 1245, or 1247, or 1 Jan. 1245/6").[2]
Children: Richard and Alice had two sons and two daughters:
Richard de Brewes, Knt., in right of his wife of Stinton (in Salle), Norfolk, Ludborough, Lincolnshire, Akenham, Hasketon, Stradbrooke, and Whittingham (in Fressingfield), Suffolk, Bromley, Surrey, etc., died shortly before 18 June 1292 and was buried in Woodbridge Priory, Suffolk.[3]

Research Notes

Birth location: Lewis gives Richard's birth location as "at of" Stinton in Salle & Heydon, Norfolk, England.[5] Lewis's use of "at of" indicates that the birth location is not known.[6] Richardson does not say where Richard was born. He does, however, note that Richard was of Stinton "in right of his wife", which makes it unlikely that he was born there. Richard's father was "of Bramber, Sussex",[2] making it the more likely birth location.

Death location: Richard was buried in Suffolk[3] but that does not necessarily mean he died there.

Mary (Brewes) de Weyland

Richardson's published works (Magna Carta Ancestry, 2011 and Royal Ancestry, 2013) do not include Mary as a daughter of Sir Richard de Breuse, her marriage to John de Weyland, or that they had a son Richard, although he did name Mary as a daughter in an SGM post in 2000,[7] announcing the trail that included Mary, daughter of Richard and Alice: "Mary de Breuse, married in or before 1288 (date of fine) to John de Weyland (died 1312), of Blaxhall, Ashbocking, etc., Suffolk." Their son "Richard de Weyland (died 1319)" was the father of Cecily de Weyland who "married before 10 May 1335, Sir Bartholomew de Burghersh, 4th Lord Burghersh."
Richardson's Royal Ancestry includes Sir Richard de Weyland as father of Cecily (wife of Sir Bartholomew de Burghersh) and further identifies Cecily's mother as Joan de Ufford, daughter of Robert de Ufford, Knt., 1st Lord Ufford.[8] It does not include Mary, Richard's mother, as a daughter of this Richard de Brewes: Richardson lists only Margaret and Sibyl as their daughters.[3] Subsequent research must have case doubt that Mary was also the daughterof Richard and Alice (Rus) de Brewes.
The profile for Mary was detached and re-attached more than once. The latest discussion (see this G2G post) was sparked by re-focusing on the 1288 fine mentioned in Richardson's 2000 SGM post,[7] which was also used as a source for GeneaJourney: The Geni entry for Mary cites GeneaJourney's entry for "Braose, Lords of Abergavenny and Bramber", which footnotes Mary with a citation: "Mary, the wife of Sir John de Weyland, has been claimed in several sources to be the granddaughter of Richard de Braose (by his son John), but from a feet of fines record she is stated to be the daughter of Richard and Alice."[9] The January 2020 G2G discussion about Mary led to this image of the fine with the comment that it says, in part, "in free marriage with Mary daughter of the aforesaid Richard and Alice". So her profile has been re-attached (again).

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), volume I, page 387-388 CALTHORPE 4.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume III, page 612 LONGESPÉE 6.ii.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Richardson, Royal Ancestry, II:58-62 CALTHORPE.
  4. See "Mary (Brewes) de Weyland" (in Research Notes, above). Mary was re-attached as daughter of Richard and Alice on 30 January 2020, based on this G2G discussion that led to this image of the fine with the comment that it says, in part, "in free marriage with Mary daughter of the aforesaid Richard and Alice".
  5. Marlyn Lewis. Sir Richard de Brewes, Lord Stainten Manor entry in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" database (accessed 10 January 2020).
  6. See the article about "at of" in the September 2019 Magna Carta Project Newsletter.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Douglas Richardson. "New MC Line: Clare-Breuse-Weyland-Burghersh-Despenser", SGM Post, 26 December 2000 (accessed 10 January 2020).
  8. Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume II, page 26 BURGHERSH 13.
  9. Geni entry for Mary, citing GeneaJourney (both sites accessed 29 Jan. 2020).
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
  • Cawley, Charles. Entry for Richard de Briouse (accessed 10 January 2020), "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.
  • Lewis, Marlyn. "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors" (free database online). Useful for leads; see cautions about use on the Magna Carta Project Reliable Sources page.

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

Richard (Braose) de Brewes is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry in a Richardson-documented trail from Gateway Ancestor Christopher Calthorpe to Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare (vol. I, pages 387-392 CALTHORPE). This profile and its trail to Richard de Clare was developed for the Magna Carta Project by Misty Rish Musco in June 2018. This profile was reviewed/approved for the project on 10 Jan 2020 and the trail was badged 17 March 2020 by Noland-165. The full trail can be seen in the Magna Carta Trails section of the Gateway's profile.
Richard (Braose) de Brewes appears in another Richardson-documented trail between Gateway Ancestors William Randolph and Henry Randolph and surety baron Richard de Clare (MCA III:416-422 RANDOLPH) that has not yet been developed on WikiTree. This trail is detailed in the Magna Carta Trails section of the profile of Gateway William Randolph.
See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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and then detached again in the latest review. However... maybe Mary needs to be re-attached (again). Please see the G2G question about Richard & Alice's daughters Sibyl and Mary at https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/977303/question-about-daughters-richard-brewes-braose-1292-alice
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Braose-148 is Mary's profile, which has been re-attached as daughter. See Braose-148#Research Notes for details.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Removed child Mary as a child. Left comment on profile to let me know if she has any reliable sources to add her back. She is not listed as a child in Richardson's books.
posted by Misty (Rish) Musco

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