Joan (Elmedon) Forster (bef. 1416)

Born before 1416 in Embleton, Northumberland, England [uncertain]

Ancestors

Died [date unknown] in Durham, England [uncertain]

Biography

Joan or Jane de Elmedon (Elmeden^[1] or Elwerden^[2]), born before 1416,^[3] was the daughter of William de Elmedon^[4] (aka William Elwerden, Lord of Elmeden^[2] & Sir William de Elmeden of Elmeden^[1]) and Elizabeth de Umfraville (daughter of Robert, 8th Earl Angus^[4][3]), co-heir, with her three sisters, of Sir Gibert de Umfreville.^[4]

Marriage

Jane or Joan Elmedon is named as the wife one Robert Forster^[5] in the 1447 Calendar of Rolls of Bishop Neville of Durham, during the 9th year of his pontificate: "Claxton, Thomas, John Dalton, Roland Tempest, and Robert Forster. To have seisin of the shares of the vill of Holmeset, the manor of Whetley, &c., to which their wives Agnes, Elizabeth, Isabella, and Jane respectively are entitled as daughters and heirs of Elizabeth, wife of William Elmedon and one of the sisters and heirs of Gilbert Umfraville, knight."^[4]

Research Notes

Disputed Husband

Shown by the 1447 Calendar of Rolls of Bishop Neville of Durham not to have been the wife of Thomas Forster, but of Robert Forster, and not the daughter of Sir Thomas Elmeden (d. 1416)^[3], but of William.

• (disputed) m. (btw c.1405 – 1425 Holy Island, DUR)Thomas Forster Esq. of Bukton.[3][4]^[6][1][2][7]

Magna Charta Pedigree

Magna Carta ancestry for the Forster line of Etherstone, hinges on proving relations to Joan Elmeden, and her [maternal] descent from Magna Charta baron, Saier Quincy. Since the identity of her husband's family is unknown, Forsters of the Etherstone line cannot prove their relation to the baron.[5][6]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Weis, F.L., Sheppard, W.L. & Beall, W.R. (1999). The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215, and Some of Their Descendants who Settled in America During the Early Colonial Years, 5th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing. Google Books
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} "Foster-Chapman families," (1920). Americana, 14, p. 402). National Americana Society. Google Books.
   Sir Richard Forester of Flanders, (2011, September 2011). Miner Descent. Weblog.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2} Discussion at soc.gen.medieval
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} Deputy Keeper of the Public records. Twenty-Fourth Annual Report. London: HMSO, 7 Feb 1873. Vol 35, Part 2, p 225.
5. ↑ Umfreville and Elmeden pedigrees
6. ↑ Miner Descent, 2011
7. ↑ "Umfreville and Elmeden pedigrees mention that Joan de Elemeden married Thomas Forster, but Foster,(1871), mis-states the ancestry of Joan as shown in these pedigrees. More importantly, he doesn't provide any evidence that the Thomas Forster who married Joan de Elmeden is connected to the family of Forster of Etherstone or Adderstone, rather than some other branch of the Forsters. Pedigrees for Forster of Adderstone in the [new] History of Northumberland and in Raine's History of North Durham do NOT show this Elmeden connection - which, if valid, would surely have been known to the Forsters due to the illustrious connections it provides. The Forster pedigrees start only with the Thomas Forster who married the heiress of Etherstone." (comment RE: Foster, J. (1871). A pedigree of the Forsters and Fosters of the North of England).[1];
   NOTE: Richardson, has removed Forsters of the Etherstone line from descendants of Saier Quincy.[2]