Marretje Leenderts de Grauw was born probably in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands. Marretje died after 4 November 1668 in New York. [1] She was the daughter of Leendert Arentsen de Gra(e)uw, who was probably born in Aalsmeer, Noord-Holland, Netherlands, and of Leuntje Alberts L(e)ydecker, born in Amsterdam.[2] Marretje was married to Barent Jacobsen Kool about 1637, probably near Amsterdam. [2] After Leendert Arentsen died, his land was conferred to Barent Jacobsen, "one daughter being the wife of Barent Jacobsen." [3]
The De Graeuw family immigrated to America in 1638 in the ship Dolphin. All the children of Barent Kool and Marretje Leendertse De Graeuw were born in New Amsterdam (New York City). Marretje and Barent had at least nine children;[2] some sources name ten children.[4] The baptisms of eight of Barent and Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church, the records of which date only from 1639.[2][5]
Children born to the marriage were:
Jacob Barentsen Kool or Cool, born about 1638 (before the baptismal register was started);
Aeltje (Aaeltje) Kool or Cool, baptised 23 September 1640;
Dievertje or Divertje (Deborah) Cool, baptised 1 February 1643;
The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy: First Families of America lists a tenth child, Barent Jacobsen Kool.[6] Clarke lists an additional child, Tryntje, born about 1648; no other information given.[7]
Marretje died some time after 4 November 1668, when she and Barent were sponsors at the baptism in New York City of their grandson, Barent, son of Jacob Barentszen and Marritje Simons. [2][5]
↑The Abridged Compendium of American Genealogy: First Families of America (subtitled, A Genealogical Encyclopedia of the United States) - (Genealogical Publishing Company. Baltimore: 1987)
↑ 5.05.1 Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of New York
↑ Barent Jacobsen Kool looks like a mistaken attribution to the wrong parents. The patronym is wrong for a son of Barent, and this name does not appear on most lists of this family's children. A child of this name was born to Jacob Barentsen Kool (son of Marretje Leenderts and Barent Jacobsen Kool) and baptized in 1661; it is possible that this child has been mistakenly attributed to his grandparents.
Patents Albany, III:35; cited by I.N. Phelps Stokes in Iconography of Manhattan Island, 6 vols., New York, 1915-1928, and by Richard H. Benson in The Barent Jacobsen Cool Family, Boston, Massachusetts, 2001, p. 7.
'Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New York', New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (which Richard H. Benson cites as "Record")
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WikiTree profile Degrauw-2 created through the import of My Family File.ged on Nov 16, 2011 by Lance Foster.
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WikiTree profile DeGraw-29 created through the import of davisfamilytree-1.ged on Sep 1, 2012 by Rich Davis.
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The Benson Book says: "Barent married Marretje Leenderts DeGrauw abt 1637, prob near A'dam. Marretje was the dau of Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw & Leuntje Alberts. The baptisms of 8 of Barent & Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Ref Church, the records of which date only from 1639. [there follow 3 pages on Barent's life]. Barent arrived again in New A'dam in early 1638 on the ship Den Dolphyn, according to the 1645 deposition ... His father-in-law Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw was on the same ship. Presumably, Marretje & siblings were aboard as well ... One wonders if Barent & Marretje's son Jacob was born bef, during or aft the voyage. [4 pp on Barent] Barent & Marretje were sponsors at a baptism in NY on 4 Nov 1668, the last record of Marretje."
This profile has (in the data fields and the dueling biographies) her dying (1) after 4 Nov 1668, (2) about 1669, and (3) in 1670. What's the event on 4 Nov 1668 that causes that to be an "after" date? Is there a solid basis for any date other than "after 4 Nov 1668"?
Also, the "after 4 Nov 1668" entry gives the death location as Amsterdam, which seems very unlikely. Does the Benson book really say that? (New Amsterdam is more likely, and Kingston may be more credible, seeing that the last child was born there.)
i give in easiliy on mere spelling issues! In this case it is not at all about spelling, but rather, regards the paternity of the children involved. The patronymic is based on the name of the father. Therefore , if the father's name was Barent, no child of his can have the patronymic Jacobsen. That is the problem in the list of children in the first biography. The second biography, (from the profile created by me), has the accepted and known list of nine children based on church records. The list of children with impossible patronymics comes from an gedcom generated file with ancestrycom trees as its source. It is, alas, a serious issue of paternity, and of probable mistaken identity of persons, not one of spelling. :(
Albertus there are many reasons why the names may not be exactly as you expect them to be. Wikitree is about collaboration. With collaboration we fix mistakes and improve on profiles. As far as I can tell this is the first thing I've heard about the children issues. I'm the NNS Leader and a profile manager as well. Maretje and Barent are my 11x great grandparents so I have a interest in them.
People enter profiles unaware of patronymics and Dutch names. Most just spelled names the way they heard it. As You know New Netherland Settlers have numerous issues with what the correct spelling is.
There are a huge amount of duplicates that we are trying to narrow down with numerous spelling variations making the process difficult and time consuming.
Albertus, as I understand patronymics, there is indeed such a thing as a double patronym, although rare.
So Jacobsen Barentsen is indeed possible, and may be the explanation of what you are seeing there. So I would not jump to the immediate conclusion that it is worng.
The way it works is that Apollonia Jacobszen Barentsen Kool for example is daughter of Barent, who was son of Jacob.
The Dutch Roots Naming Convention sub-page goes into some detail about this double patronym form, as I recall.
So when something like this is well-sourced, it is important that we give the source its due weight and consideration, rather than just make an assumption from our modern perspective and limited ability to assess it that it must be wrong, based on what we think we know. that is contrary.
The list of children in the first biography is not right. One has only to look at the different patronymics, which should be the same. Jacobsen is not possible... She had 10 children-Jacob Barentsen Kool, Arent Barents Kool, Aaeltje Kool, Apollonia Jacobszen Barentsen Kool, Divertje Jacobsen Kool, Leendert Barentsen Kool, Arent Barents Kool, Theunis Barents Kool, Barent Jacobsen Kool, and Pieter Barentsen Kool. Also, Cornelise van de Kuyl shown as a child in one of the links, is impossible, for Cornelise with the e is not a christian name, but rather a patronymic. This person does not exist in any list of chilren for this couple Barent Kool and Marretje Leenderts. Cornelise seems to be taken from some other couple called van de Cuyl. Will someone with more atuhority than I please fix these children problems?
De Grauw-7 and De Grauw-3 appear to represent the same person because: This newly created duplicate is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. Thanks!
De Graw-7 and De Grauw-3 appear to represent the same person because: This newly created duplicate is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. Thanks!
These are the same and can be merged as well , no conflicts . Thanks ! :)
These are the same and can be merged as well , no conflicts . Thanks ! :)
Also, the "after 4 Nov 1668" entry gives the death location as Amsterdam, which seems very unlikely. Does the Benson book really say that? (New Amsterdam is more likely, and Kingston may be more credible, seeing that the last child was born there.)
i give in easiliy on mere spelling issues! In this case it is not at all about spelling, but rather, regards the paternity of the children involved. The patronymic is based on the name of the father. Therefore , if the father's name was Barent, no child of his can have the patronymic Jacobsen. That is the problem in the list of children in the first biography. The second biography, (from the profile created by me), has the accepted and known list of nine children based on church records. The list of children with impossible patronymics comes from an gedcom generated file with ancestrycom trees as its source. It is, alas, a serious issue of paternity, and of probable mistaken identity of persons, not one of spelling. :(
People enter profiles unaware of patronymics and Dutch names. Most just spelled names the way they heard it. As You know New Netherland Settlers have numerous issues with what the correct spelling is. There are a huge amount of duplicates that we are trying to narrow down with numerous spelling variations making the process difficult and time consuming.
So Jacobsen Barentsen is indeed possible, and may be the explanation of what you are seeing there. So I would not jump to the immediate conclusion that it is worng.
The way it works is that Apollonia Jacobszen Barentsen Kool for example is daughter of Barent, who was son of Jacob.
The Dutch Roots Naming Convention sub-page goes into some detail about this double patronym form, as I recall.
So when something like this is well-sourced, it is important that we give the source its due weight and consideration, rather than just make an assumption from our modern perspective and limited ability to assess it that it must be wrong, based on what we think we know. that is contrary.