Jean (Desmarets) Desnoyers dit Desmarais (abt. 1677 - 1763)

Born about 1677 in Orléans, Orléanais, France

Husband of Thérèse Ménard — married 28 Feb 1724 in Longueuil , Canada, Nouvelle-France (mariés à la gaumine en 1709)

Descendants

Died 5 Mar 1763 at about age 86 in St-Jean-Francois-Régis, St-Philippe, Canada, Nouvelle-France

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Biography

Name

Jean Desmarets dit Desnoyers^[1]

Marriage

On 29 Feb 1724 at Longueuil, the marriage of Jean Desnoyers and Therese Menard was rehabilitated.^[2] The register does not give the names of the parents of either party.^[2] Such rehabilitations usually indicated that the initial marriage was a civil marriage between a Catholic and a protestant and not blessed at the initial time by the Catholic Church. In this case, the original marriage was à la gaumine ie they pledged themselves as husband and wife before or inside the church without actual benediction from clergy.

Therese Menard was the widow of Jean Deaneau and the marriage with Jean Desnoyers was originally contracted in 1709.^[1][3]

Known Children

Child: Pierre Desmarets, baptized at Longueuil 27 Aug 1710 ; married 1740, to Marie-Joseph LETOURNEAU ; buried 27 Jun 1760, at St-Antoine de Chambly.^[1]

Child: Ursule, baptized at Longueuil 11 Aug 1718; buried at Longueuil 1 Sep 1718.^[1]

Child: Etienne, baptized at Longueuil 11 Aug 1718 ; married 17 Jan 1744, to Marie-Jeanne Giroux, at La Prairie.^[1]

Child: Marie-Charlotte, born 1719 ; married 2 Jan 1736, to Laurent Viau.^[1]

Child: Jean-Baptiste, baptized at Longueuil 26 Jun 1720; buried at Longueuil 6 Aug 1720.^[1]

Child: Angelique, married at Longueuil 23 Nov 1739, to Louis Letourneau^[1]

Child: Pierre, baptized at Longueuil 17 Jan 1723; buried at Longueuil 30 Apr 1723. ^[1]

Child: Madeleine, married to Noel Carpentier; burried at Longueuil 21 Mar 1743.^[1]

DEATH: Ancestry.com. Canada, Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. Publisher date 5 Mar 1763 Publisher location Saint-Philippe, Monteregie Region, Quebec, Canada ^[4]

Research Notes

Note: The first two of the following FS tree references give wrong parents for Robert, whose parents are clearly named on his marriage record as Nicolas Desmares and Marie Bocquet. Jean Desmarets dit Desnoyers is not the son of Robert and Élisabeth, whatever Tanguay may say about it. Jean is from Orléans in France. Note that place names are incorrect in the following, L'Assomption and not L'Assumption, and it is actually a separate location from Repentigny. Robert and Élisabeth only had 3 children.

• https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:M1J8-YB5 does not have sources but it shows his parents as Robert Desmarets (1662-?) and Elisabeth Richaume (1646-?). It shows his paternal grandparents as Jacques George La Porte (1621-?) and Nicole Duchesne (1641-?). It shows his maternal grandparents as Pierre Richaume (1620-?) and Marthe Arnue (1620-?)
• https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:SY9P-8JX also has no sources and shows the same parents with specific marriage date for parents of 23 July 1682 at L'Assumption, Repentigny, Quebec. Says father born about 1660 at Repentigny. Says mother born 31 August 1666 at Chambly, Quebec. Has same maternal grandparents with a specific marriage date for them of 16 September 1658 at Ile de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec. Shows maternal great grandparents as Simon Richaume (born about 1610 at Hiers, Brouage, Saintonge, France) and Catherine Belior (born about 1610 at Hiers, Brouage, Saintonge, France) with their marriage in 1635 in Quebec. Shows other set of maternal great grandparents as Marc Arnue (born about 1610 in LaRochelle, France) and Louise Brodeur (born about 1610 in LaRochelle, France) with their marriage about 1630 in Quebec.
• https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3M42-ZKL has the same parents and cites Tanguay for their marriage on 23 July 1682 at L'Assumption, Repentigny, Quebec. Gives a specific death date for his mother of 4 April 1703, Montreal, Quebec. It also says his mother married a second time on 16 Apr 1697 to Pierre Moreau in Quebec, Quebec citing Drouin and Tanguay volume 6, p. 88. If true this would mean his father died before 16 Apr 1697. This one has a different set of Paternal grandparents listed as Nicolas Desmarets and Marie Bocquet from St Etienne, Paris, France estimated born 1620 and 1625 respectively and married there about 1645. It says Simon Richaume died 18 Feb 1655 in Quebec. Says Marc Arnue was from the parish of St Sauvier in LaRochelle, and that he died before 1640. Says Louise Brodeur married a second time to Jean Sauviot at St Nicolas in LaRochelle France about 1640 and that she died 27 November 1680 at L'Assumption, Repentigny, Quebec. Says she married Marc Arnue in 1631 at St Sauveur in LaRochelle citing some sort of source for immigration from LaRochelle.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9} Tanguay, L'abbe Cyprien, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Canadiennes, Volume 3, page 383
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} "Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99M-59HZ?cc=1321742&wc=9RLQ-827%3A15598001%2C15598002%2C13811301 : 16 July 2014), Longueuil > Saint-Antoine-de-Longueuil > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1669-1789 > image 498 of 2063; nos paroisses de Église Catholique, Quebec (Catholic Church parishes, Quebec).
3. ↑ E-mail from Louis Mcgowan, Record Type: e-mail, Recipient: Bonneau, Earl, Author Location: Providence, Rhode Island Abbreviation: E-mail from McGowan, Louis Author: McGowan, Louis
4. ↑ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/217810674/jean-desnoyers_dit_desmarais

• http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogy=Jean_Desnoyers&pid=59986&lng=en&partID=45041
• Morin, Gaétan, R.A.B du PRDH (1621-1765) Universite de Montreal, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, 1998