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Antoine Desrosiers (bef. 1620 - 1691)

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Antoine Desrosiers aka Deronzier dit Grollier
Born before in Bourg de Renaison pays de Lyonnais en Francemap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married in Trois-Rivières, QCmap
Died in Champlain, Trois-Riviéres district, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap [uncertain]
30 July 2016
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Contents

Biography/Biographie

For a brief biographical sketch see OUR FRENCH-CANADIAN ANCESTORS, by Thomas J. Laforest, vol.2, (1984), chapter 8, pp.55-62.

According to Fichier Origine: Antoine Desrosiers 1617 Drawn from one of the many names of the surname Desrosiers, the line Lafrenière[citation needed] we used here, one of the oldest, if not the oldest, would root ancestor Antoine Desrosiers dit Lafresnière. The ancestor contracts marriage with Anne Leneuf du Herrisson before the notary Boujonnier in Trois-Rivières and married Nov. 24, 1647[citation needed]. The couple gave birth to eight children between 1650 and 1672, including at least three sons who married and founded families. Antoine Derosiers Dit Lafrenière, born in 1664, in Trois-Rivières, married Marie Renee Desmarais Lepellé in 1696. They had eleven children. Pierre, born in 1719 in Sorel, married his first wife, Genevieve Casaubon, January 18, 1744 and his second wife, January 21, 1759 in Berthierville, Marie-Madeleine Boucher. The descendants of this line, Lafrenière were spread into parts of Champlain, Sorel and Berthier also.


Baptism 30 Aug 1620 (Age: 3) The act of baptism in 1620, which could be one of the pioneer, was discovered by Nicole Morel-Desrosiers Jean-Pierre Morel in 2007. Uncertain and does not recognize legal status of the relationship between family members, due to the absence of the names of his parents marriage contract in New France.

Marriage Contract 24 Nov 1647 (Age: 30) Trois-Rivières, Québec, Canada to Anne Leneuf[citation needed] He was born between 1617 and 1619. No information on the date of his marriage, but a marriage contract dated 24 Nov 1647 passed in Trois-Rivières, Québec, Canada.

Marriage 24 Nov 1647 (Age: 30) Trois-Rivieres, Canada to Anne Leneuf-The ancestor contracted marriage with Anne de Leneuf Herrisson before notary Boujonnier in Trois-Rivières and married Nov. 24, 1647[citation needed].

Death 08 Aug 1691 (Age: 74) Champlain, Quebec, Canada [citation needed]

Occupation Judge[citation needed]

Children

Marie Desrosiers b. 16 Jun 1650

Michel Desrosiers dit Désilets b. circa 1652

Joseph Desrosiers b. circa 1655, d. before 1666

Jean Desrosiers dit Dutremble b. 29 Sep 1657, d. 23 Feb 1704

Anne Desrosiers b. 12 Nov 1661

Antoine Desrosiers dit Lafresnière b. 30 Aug 1664

Pierre Desrosiers dit Dargy b. circa 1667, d. before 1723

Marie-Jeanne Desrosiersb. circa 1671


Baptême

Peut-être baptisé le 30 août 1620 à Noailly (actuel département français de la Loire); il serait alors le fils de Jean Debonzier, et Anet Grothier.[1]

Peut-être baptisé le 14 avril 1617 à Renaison (actuel département français de la Loire); il serait alors le fils de Antoine Desrosiers et de Sylvie ?.[2]

Peut-être baptisé le 4 août 1600 à Roanne au pays de Lyonnais, France fils de Benoit Desrosiers[3]


Traité de mariage de Desrosiers et Anne Duhérisson

6 Août 1648 Au traité de mariage qui au plaisir de Dieu sera faite et parfait en faces de Notre Mère Ste-Église Catholique Apostolique et Romaine entre Antoine Desrosiers natif du Bourg de Renaison pays de Lyonnais en France et Anne Duhérisson native du Bourg de Thiéry en Normandie tous deux de présent demeurant en cette habitation de Trois Rivière, lesquels présence de leurs parent et bons amis le sont promis la Foy de mariage respectivement l’un et l’autre avec promesse de l’épouses en faveur duquel accord le Sieur Duhérisson présence présence des susdits parents et bons amis a promis donner au nom de la dite fille au dit Desrosiers le dit mariage parfait et accompli[4] Transcrit par Givogue-4

Marriage contract between Desrosiers and Anne Duhérisson

August 6, 1648 the marriage contract that the pleasure of God will be made perfect and in front of Our Mother Holy Church, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman between Antoine Desrosiers native of Bourg Renaison region of Lyon in France and Anne Duhérisson, native of Bourg Thiéry in Normandy, both of them residents of this parish living in Trois-Rivière, where the presence of their witness and good friends have promised in their wedding vows to respect one and the other with the promise to whom agreement with Sieur Duhérisson presence of the aforementioned witness and good friends promised to give the name of this girl to the said Desrosiers, the said marriage perfect and accomplishedTranslated par Givogue-4


Marriage Contract

Marriage contract Antoine Desrosiers with Anne Duhérisson
August 6, 1648 Trois-Rivières, Québec Canada

Enterrement d’Antoine Desrosiers Le neuvième du mois d’août de l’année mil six cent quatre-vingt-onze a été inhumé dans le cimetière de l’église paroissiale de Champlain, Antoine Desrosiers habitant du dit lieu, décédé le jour présentent, en la communion de notre mère de l’église, âgé quatre-vingt-dix ans, en présence Jean Desrosiers Dutremble son fils, maître Jacques Turcut et de la plupart de ses enfants, parent et amis. Dudourne prêtre[5] Transcrit par Givogue-4

Burial of Antoine Desrosiers The ninth of August, one thousand six hundred ninety-one was buried in the cemetery of the parish church of Champlain, Antoine Desrosiers resident of the said place, died the day before in the host our Mother of the Church, aged ninety years old, attended Jean Desrosiers Dutremble his son, master Jacques Turcut and most of his children, parents and friends. Dudourne priest. Translated by Givogue-4


Sources

  1. Archives nationales de France, Noailly, France Baptêmes. - 3NUMRP1/1MIEC158X1 - De 1585 à 1628 Image 58 [1]
  2. Archives nationales de France, Renaison, France Baptêmes. - 3NUMRP1/1MIEC183X1 - De 1615 à 1633 Image 13 [2]
  3. Archives nationales de France, Roanne, France 1600 à 1604 3NUMRP7/1MIEC001Image 9 [3]
  4. Registres photographies aux Archives d’Ottawa Ont. à 1654 Trois-Rivières extraits de vieux document
  5. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Paroisse Notre-Dame-de-la-Visitation, Champlain, Québec Canada Image 113 pg.107 [4]

Citations

  • A point in history [5]
  • ZoneCousinage:[6]
  • Ancestry:[7]
  • nosorigines:[8]
  • Actes d’état civil et registres d’église du Québec (Collection Drouin):Actes d’état civil et registres d’église du Québec (Collection Drouin), 1621 à 1967 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2008.Original data - Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin.
  • Canadian Genealogy Index:Title: Canadian Genealogy Index, 1600s-1900s Author: Genealogical Research Library, Ontario, Canada Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005.Original data - Compiled from various family history sources. See source information provided with each entry. Repository:[9]
  • Passenger and Immigration Lists:Index, 1500s-1900s Author, Gale Research Publicatio,: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2006.
  • Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
  • Family Data Collection - Births:Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001
  • Family Data Collection - Individual Records:Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.
  • Our Menoche Family:[10]
  • Fichier Origine[11]
  • Généalogie des Français d'Amérique du Nord: Denis Beauregard, [12]
  • Dictionnaire généalogique des familles du Québec des origines: à 1730, Jetté, René, Les Presses de l'Université de Montréal. Montréal, 1983.)
  • Citation in Jean Talon's 1666 census of Nouvelle France: Capitre 4, under Trois-Rivieres Antoine des Rosiers, 46, habitant: Anne du Hérisson, 34, sa femme ; Michel, 13 ; Jean, 8 ; Anne, 4 ; Antoine, 2 ; Jacques Bourdin, 22, domestique. Census of Canada, 1666 National Archives of Canada pg.145 [13]
  • http://www.poitiersgenealogie2015.f/poitiersgenealogie2015_actes_du_congres.pdf



Acknowledgments

  • This person was created through the import of myfamily.ged on 23 March 2011.
  • Thank you to Mark Mcguire for creating WikiTree profile Desrosier-5 through the import of 2hj84e_857376pf3v26m58a1b5355.ged on Mar 6, 2013.
  • Thanks to Denis Givogue for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Denis and others.


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Collaboration

On July 13, 2016 at 05:29GMT Ross Ashley wrote:

Hi, James; yeah, the record gets pretty darned confused before him. On other sites there are trees confounding him and his father, which would have him die at age 100. I have seen some indication that the extant record of his baptism is a copy from the records of another parish church which subsequently burned.

On July 12, 2016 at 19:22GMT James LaLone wrote:

There are at least three sets of parents listed, this need to be confirmed - 1. the set listed here, 2. Desrosiers--38 (mentioned in LaForest's book) and 3. http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec-genealogy/039/039474.php

On May 20, 2016 at 00:04GMT Danielle Liard wrote:

Deronzier dit Grollier-1 and Desrosiers-17 appear to represent the same person because: same mane and wife, note being sent to objecting manager, there is some confusion somewhere.

On May 19, 2016 at 21:53GMT Sarah Sonn wrote:

Deronzier dit Grollier-1 and Desrosiers-17 do not represent the same person because: someone got into my tree, even though it was private, and changed information on Antoine Desrosiers, 1590. His wife was Sophie Trou. The Antoine's may be the same but the information is incorrect

On May 19, 2016 at 19:41GMT Danielle Liard wrote:

Deronzier dit Grollier-1 and Desrosiers-17 appear to represent the same person because: same man and wife and son, merge into Desrosiers-17 as 'dit' names go in other last name box

On May 16, 2016 at 02:52GMT John Ouellette wrote:

Deronzier dit Grollier-1 and Desrosiers-17 are not ready to be merged because: Although the date of death is the same, there is a question of who the parents actually were. Have to read more thoroughly the provided documents

On March 8, 2015 at 03:52GMT Lianne Lavoie wrote:

Denis: Filles du Roi and French Immigrants to Acadia are both subcategories of French Immigrants to New France, but they aren't all that goes in that category. The broader category is meant to hold everyone who migrated from France to New France.

~Lianne

On January 27, 2014 at 18:48GMT Ross Ashley wrote:

The Antoine Desrosiers in the 1666 Census at Trois-Rivieres was aged 46 - see http://www.cangenealogy.com/armstrong/qc1666troisr.htm

On January 24, 2014 at 19:27GMT Ross Ashley wrote:

The "Lieu d'origine" given on http://www.fichierorigine.com/detail.php?numero=241275 is now Noailly in the Loire department (St-Pierre parish). Arrondissement is Roanne; the Wikipedia listing says

Region Rhône-Alpes Department Loire Arrondissement Roanne Canton Saint-Haon-le-Châtel Intercommunality Communauté de communes de la Côte roannaise

On December 4, 2013 at 18:12GMT Ross Ashley wrote:

Thanks for the documents; some of us descendants of Antoine have determined that there were three Antoines - and the one who married Anne Le Neuf du Herison was born in 1617. See my family tree segment at http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Desrosiers-Family-Tree-144



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