Marie du Cloux (1577 - aft. 1624)

Born 17 Nov 1577 in Sedan, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France

Ancestors

Wife of Jesse (Desforetz) De Forest — married 23 Sep 1601 in Sedan, Ardennes, France

Descendants

Died after 1624 after age 46 in Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Nederland

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Biography

Marriage, Family and Early Career

The first mention which we find of Jesse de Forest tells of his marriage at Sedan on 23 September 1601 to Marie du Cloux.^[1]

Jesse's father had left Avesnes (Nord, France) for Sedan at some time during the three years prior to 1601, so that Jesse had had opportunity in the latter place to meet and to be attracted by young Marie du Cloux. She was the daughter of Nicaise du Cloux, a fellow merchant of Jesse's father. The members of the du Cloux family were people of good position in Sedan: merchants, barristers and surgeons

Jesse's name first appears in the registers of the old Huguenot church of Sedan, sequestrated in 1669 by Louis XIV and later recovered. The earliest entry that concerns the de Forests translates as follows:

“1601: Sunday, 23d day of said month [September] at the Catechism the said Sieur du Tilloy blessed the marriage of Jesse des forests, son of Jean des forests, merchant, residing in this city, with Marie du Cloux, daughter of Nicaise du Cloux, merchant residing in this city.”

Sieur du Tilloy was evidently the Protestant minister who officiated for the event. The first child, baby Marie, was born in 1602, then four children of Jesse and Marie baptized between 1604 and 160 In the following year appears a record which shows that Jesse himself had become a merchant of Sedan.

“1602: Sunday, 7th day of said month [July] on which day was celebrated the Lord's Supper, Monsieur du Tilloy, having made the evening exhortation, baptized Marie, daughter of Jesse des forests merchant residing in this city, and of Marie du Cloux his wife.”

Sponsors: Estienne du Cloux and Marie Aubertin.

Then follow the baptisms of four other children:

1. Jean (later called Jan or Jehan), July 22nd, 1604, witnessed by Jean le Vasseur and Magdeleine du Cloux;
2. Henry (known to us as Hendrick), March 7th, 1606, witnessed by Henry de Lambremont, merchant, and his wife Rachel Aubertin;
3. Elizabeth, November 1st, 1607, witnessed by Abraham le Groa, goldsmith, and his wife Elizabeth Aubertin;
4. David, December 11th, 1608 witnessed by David de Lambremont, merchant-dyer at Montcornet, and Marie de Lambremont, daughter of Henry.

It is also noteworthy that his children were always christened after a godfather or a godmother, a fact which accounts for the disappearance of the baptismal names then current among the de Forests of Avesnes. Jesse and Marie’s children would be later connected to America. Several of these names connect the family with its later existence in America. Henry de Forest was one of the founders of Harlem, on the island of Manhattan, and died there in 1637. Jean, sometimes recorded as Johannes, had a small claim against the estate of Henry, though it does not appear certain that he ever crossed the ocean. David visited New Amsterdam in 1659, and had a son baptized there, but in 1665 had returned to Holland and was guardian to Willem and Rachel de la Montagne grandchildren of his sister Rachel.

Jesse followed his father’s footsteps as a merchant in Sedan, then changed careers and becomes a merchant-dyer in 1608

When Jesse's father went to Holland in 1602 he must have left his mercantile business in Sedan to Jesse for in that year we first find the latter spoken of as merchant; undoubtedly a merchant in woolen cloth. Up through 1606 Jesse appears in the Sedan records as a merchant (probably in woolen cloth) residing at Sedan. In 1607 he is still a merchant, but resident at Montcornet in Thierache, an eastern canton of Picardy (Aisne, France). In 1608 he was there still but had changed his work to merchant-dyer. It is clear that while living at Montcornet, he was in partnership with David de Lambremont, husband of Magdeleine du Cloux, one of Marie du Cloux's sisters.^[2]

The du Cloux family of Sedan
The du Cloux were people of note in the town of Sedan. Several of them were merchants. Others were barristers, notaries or surgeons. One, Jean du Cloux, was the bailli (bailiff or sheriff) of the city prior to 1596.

Daughter Rachel was born in 1609.

After 1608 there was a gap of eight years in the church registers of Sedan. Jesse de Forest appears in the Walloon registers of Leyden in 1615. His daughter Rachel, mother of one of the notable families of New York, was born in 1609 at the same time that Dutch navigator Hendrick Hudson was sounding his way up the “great north river,” and four years before Christaensen built his block-house, the first European building, on Manhattan Island. Rachel married Jean Mousnier la Montagne in 1626 at age seventeen, which was fairly young for a bride, even in those days.

Listed as an ancestor of John W. De Forest in the "American Ancestry" reference volumes by Thomas Patrick Hughes, 1838-1911, published by Joel Munsell's Sons of Albany, New York.^[3]

Birth

17 NOV 1576 Nord, France or Sedan, Meuse, Lorraine, France or Champagne, Ardennes, Champagne-Ardenne, France

1580 Sedan, Meuse, France

Christening

17 Nov 1577 Sedan, France

Marriage

Wife of Jesse (De Forest) Forest — married September 23, 1601 in , Leiden, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands

Children

1. Plaats: Leiden Datum: 01-03-1615 Kind: Jessé du Forest Vader: Jessé du Forest Moeder: Marie du Clou Getuige: Melchior du Forest Getuige : Jan Vekers Getuige: Agnes de la Grange Getuige: Esther de la Grange Opmerkingen: Getuige Jan Vekers is Jan Vekers jr.^[4]
2. Plaats: Leiden Datum: 07-1616 Kind: Isaac du Forrest Vader: Jesse du Forrest Getuige: Jan Vekers Getuige: Isaac de Syde Getuige: Heleine Chanvine Getuige : Marie de Syde^[5]
3. Plaats: Leiden Datum: 07-10-1617 Kind: Israël du Forest Vader: Jessé des Forest Moeder: Marie du Clou Getuige: Elizabeth Legre Getuige: Israel salomon^[6]
4. Plaats: Leiden Datum: 13-09-1620 Kind: Philippe des Forest Vader: Jesse des Forest Moeder: Marie du Cloux Getuige: Toussain Muijssaer Getuige: Jean de le Marlier Getuige: Susanne de Bane Getuige : Jenne Wanin^[7]

Death

1622 New Amsterdam, New York or New City, Rockland, New York

Died 1622 in New Amsterdam Nieuw Amsterdam (New York in 1664)

1626, Age: 48-49.

Sources

1. ↑ "France, registres protestants, 1536-1894," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11707-58826-84?cc=1582585 : 8 August 2015), France > Ardennes: Sedan > Mariages, 1573-1608 (Ms 664/1) > image 204 of 285; paroisses de Eglise Réformée, Francais (Reformed Church parishes, France). Note that this is an index entry. The originals were lost in WWII.
2. ↑ The Dutch Republic in the early seventeenth century
3. ↑ American Ancestry : giving name and descent, in the male line, of Americans whose ancestors settled in the United States previous to the Declaration of Independence, A. D. 1776 - Hughes & Munsell - Published 1892 - Volume 3.pdf page 185
4. ↑ Bron: Archiefnr: 1004 Archiefnaam: Dopen Waalse Kerk Inventarisnummer 270 Scan Baptism Jessé du Forest 1615
5. ↑ Bron: Archiefnr: 1004 Archiefnaam Dopen Waalse Kerk Inventarisnummer: 270 Baptism Isaac du Forrest 1616
6. ↑ Bron: Archiefnr: 1004 Archiefnaam: Dopen Waalse Kerk Inventarisnummer: 270 scan baptism Israël du Forest 1617
7. ↑ Bron: Archiefnr: 1004 Archiefnaam: Dopen Waalse Kerk Inventarisnummer: 270 scan Baptism Philippe des Forest 1620

• google books Publication of the article "La famille du Cloux" in "Bulletin de la commission de l' histoire des Eglises Wallones, Tome V" (starting at page 225). Relevant for this profile is this baptism record from 1577 at page 251: "Dimanche 17e jour dud. mois (novembre 1577) Monsieur du Moulin a baptize Marie, fille de Nicaise du Cloux, chastelain du Chateau Regnaut, et de Marie Aubertin sa femme, dont maistre Jean du Cloux, baillit de ceste ville et dame Francoise Roland sa femme ont este P. et M.". Note that this article was published in 1892, so well before the original baptism records of Sedan were lost during WWII.

• Repository: #REPO14 Ancestral File (R) by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998

• Vanarsdale family history http://vanarsdaleleefamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-life-of-jesse-de-forest-petitioner.html

• #S-923559106: Ancestry Family Trees http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=7179083&pid=-1147854855

• S2 Ancestry Family Trees: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.; Repository: #R1 Repository: R1

• S-20508029 Repository: #R-843443445 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Ancestry.com

Acknowledgments

• This person was created through the import of Rodney Timbrook Ancestors and Relatives_2010-09-10.ged on 10 September 2010.
• Carroll Woods, Entered by Carroll Woods, Nov 28, 2012.
• This person was created on 13 September 2010 through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged.
• Paul Lee, Entered by Paul Lee, Aug 7, 2011.
• This person was created through the import of Smith-Hunter.ged on 10 March 2011.
• WikiTree profile Cloux-1 created through the import of wikitree.ged on Aug 1, 2011 by Abby Brown.
• Thank you to Susan Potts for creating WikiTree profile DuCloux-3 through the import of 15 generations.ged on Oct 30, 2013.