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Sarah (Dyer) Edmonston (abt. 1716 - abt. 1800)

Sarah Edmonston formerly Dyer aka Hays, Hayes
Born about in Pennsylvaniamap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of and [mother unknown]
Sister of [half], [half], [half], [half], [half] and [half]
Wife of — married 1741 [location unknown]
Wife of — married 1749 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Mother of , and
Died about at about age 84 in Virginia, United Statesmap
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Biography

Sarah was born about 1716 to Roger and Hannah Dyer of Amherst County, Virginia Colony.[1][2]

She married first George Hays or Hayes about 1730 in Isle of Wight, Virginia Colony. After her husband's death in 1747 she was administratrix of his estate and then married James Edmondson about 1749.[2]

She passed away in 1800. [3]

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Sources

  1. ↑ Probate: "Virginia, U.S., Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850" Book: WB2-301 Ancestry Record 7832 #55844 (accessed 30 March 2023) Roger Dyer probate.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/12773:61266
  3. ↑ First-hand information as remembered by Theresa thunderbird Coffey, Monday, September 8, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.






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Fox-14811 Kent Fox
Regarding Theresa thunderbird Coffey's comment on Sarah Hays' maiden name being Dyer. Roger Dyer in his Will filed in the Will Books of Augusta County, Virginia Colony on February 24, 1757, says that his daughter's name at that time was Sarah Hays. This source gives a completely different parent for Sarah, but it does provide evidence for the Dyer LNAB. See "Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981" Alabama Department of Archives and History; Montgomery, AL; Alabama Surname Files; Box or Film Number: M85.0193 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61266 #90012773.

A second look at the source I cited in my comment #1 below (Article 189 of Ashe County Heritage) shows NO reference to court documents. I can now find no contemporary records to support the assertion that Sarah's name was Smith Hayes or that her father was Abraham Smith James.

Ten years before Roger Dyer identified his daughter, Sarah Hays, the same Augusta County, Virginia Will Books, in the Probate record for George Hayes says that George Hayes' widow and administratrix, Sarah, was married to James Edmondson, May 17, 1749.

It is possible that there were two different Sarah Hays of about the same age living at the same time in Augusta County, Virginia, but I can find no clear evidence for this and so it seems unlikely. I think we should go ahead and merge Sarah (Smith) Edmunston (Smith-301563) into Sarah (Dyer) Hayes (Dyer-7855), keeping George Hays (Hays-2167 with all of his ancestors and descendants) as her first husband and keeping James L Edmonston (Edmonston-265 and his descendants) as her second husband. This may require a subsequent merge Edmundson-111 and Edmonston-265. Also if there is good reason to switch Hayes & Hays and/or Edmundson & Edmonston that can be done too.

posted by Kent Fox
Theresa thunderbird Coffey
The research I have gives her maiden name as Dyer not Smith,daughter of John Dyer and Hannah Smith
posted by Theresa thunderbird Coffey
Fox-14811 Kent Fox
Here are some new sources which confirm or add to existing info about Sarah _____ Hayes Edmonston. They should also help to decide whether or not to merge Smith-301563 and Dyer-7855.

1. Article 189 of Ashe County Heritage. These are genealogical research notes published in 1984 but referring to court documents filed 1750 - 1800. Space:Article_189%2C_Heritage_of_Ashe_County_North_Carolina Applicable info: Sarah Smith Hayes, b. 1724 & d. 1792 Amherst Co Virginia; daughter of Abraham Smith James; m. 1749 James Edmondson in Augusta Co Virginia.

2. James Edmundson's Will, probated in 1793 Wilkes Co N Carolina.

  • Probate: "North Carolina, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1665-1998"

Wills, Inventories, and Sales of Estates, 1779-1852; Author: North Carolina. Superior Court (Wilkes County); Probate Place: Wilkes, North Carolina Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 9061 #893328 (accessed 12 March 2023) James Edmonson probate on 13 Jan 1792 in Wilkes, North Carolina, USA. Applicable info: James wife - Sarah son - Robert daughter - Dorothier Dunkin son - William

3. George Hays' Probate Record, Augusta Co Virginia, 1747-1750

  • Marriage: "Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981"

Alabama Department of Archives and History; Montgomery, AL; Alabama Surname Files; Box or Film Number: M85.0193 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61266 #90012773 (accessed 12 March 2023) Sarah Hayes marriage to James Edmondson on 17 May 1748. Applicable info: Sarah Hayes, administratrix of late husband, George Hays' Will is wife of James Edmonston, m May 17 1748.

4. Roger Dyer's Will Feb 24, 1757, Augusta Co Virginia "Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981" Alabama Department of Archives and History; Montgomery, AL; Alabama Surname Files; Box or Film Number: M85.0193 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61266 #90012773 (accessed 12 March 2023)

Applicable info: Sarah Hays is child of Roger Dyer Other listed legatees - wife - Hannah child - James child - William child - Hannah Gester grandson - Roger Dyer, son of William

I don't want to add any of these sources or edit any profile data until a merge of Smith-301563 and Dyer-7855 is completed or rejected. If a merge is done then Edmundson-111 and Edmonston-265 will also have to be merged. I'm not on the trusted list for Dyer-7855 so I can't do the merge myself now.

posted by Kent Fox
Fox-14811 Kent Fox
Smith-301563 and Dyer-7855 are not ready to be merged because: First they probably do represent the same person, Sarah who married first George Hayes and then after George died at Kings Mtn married James Edmonston. The names, dates and places match well between the two profiles and between connecting profiles. Furthermore there are additional sources which I will describe in comments that seem to confirm a match. Two of the new sources however, give different Last Names at Birth for Sarah (Dyer or Smith) Hayes Edmonston, so either one source is wrong or there may be two different people.
posted by Kent Fox
Fox-14811 Kent Fox
Smith-301563 and Dyer-7855 appear to represent the same person because: Each of them married first George Hayes (Hays-2167) and then married James Edmonston (Edmonston-2650. Where they both report information, the two profiles agree on dates, places, and children. The one significant difference between the two profiles is in their FNAB. They both have a documentary source of evidence. But I believe the evidence for the FNAB, for Dyer-7855 is stronger than the evidence for Smith-301563 because the main source for Dyer is a legal document. a Will, written and recorded by her father while the profiled person was still alive, whereas the only source evidence we know about for Smith is a genealogist's research report written in 1931 without citing any underlying source. Note that Edmundson-111 should be merged into Edmonston-265 when these profiles are merged. I have other sourced data that can be added to this family when it is untangled.
posted by Kent Fox
Fox-14811 Kent Fox
I appears that Dyer-7855 and Smith-301563 may represent same person, Sarah (Dyer) (Hayes) Edmonston. And Edmundson-111 and Edmonston-265 also represent the same person, James Edmonston, the second spouse of Sarah (Dyer) (Hayes) Edmonston. A key source document, it seems to me, is ...
  • Marriage: "Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981"

Alabama Department of Archives and History; Montgomery, AL; Alabama Surname Files; Box or Film Number: M85.0193 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61266 #12773 (accessed 4 March 2023) James Edmondson marriage to Sarah Hayes on 17 May 1748. My head is spinning from trying to sort out James and Sarah Edmonston and the manager of Edmonston-265 is unresponsive. Can someone help untangle this?

posted by Kent Fox
Hays-336 Greg Hays
Dyer-9113 and Dyer-7855 appear to represent the same person because: birth and death dates match;spouse in common
posted by Greg Hays

Rejected matches › Sarah E. (Griffin) Hayes › Sarah Ellen Hayes (1881-1946) › Sarah (Dyer) Rolphe (abt.1668-) › Sarah Dyer (abt.1758-bef.1763) › Sarah Jane Dyer (1836-1836) › Sarah Dyer (1838-1838) › Marjorie (Elliott) Hayes

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