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William Eure/Evers was the son of Ralph Eure and Eleanor Greystoke.[1][2][3][4] His birth date is not known. It is uncertain when his parents married, but his maternal grandparents' marriage contract was dated 1407, and his maternal grandfather and grandmother were born respectively in about 1390 and 1393,[5] so, working forward, a birth date of about 1440 is possible. William was his father's main heir.[1][2][6]
William married twice. His first wife was Margaret Constable, daughter of Robert Constable[3][4] and Agnes Wentworth.[1][2] The date of their marriage is not known. They had at least the following children:
Before 3 July 1497 (when there was dispensation for the marriage as they were within the officially prohibited degrees of consanguinity), William married again, his second wife being Constance, last name at birth uncertain, widow of Henry Percy.[1][2] They had three children:
William held lands Stokesley[6] and Malton in Yorkshire.[1][2] There is a 1483 record of his having been granted lands at "Aton in Pykerynglyth" (Great Ayton), Yorkshire by Margaret Lady Clifford (a cousin) and her son Henry.[7]
In 1478-9 the Bishop of Durham granted William coal and iron mines in Durham and Northumberland.[8]
William was Sheriff of Yorkshire in 1482-3.[9]
In 1490 William was granted the stewardship of Seymour, Yorkshire during the minority of Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland.[10] In 1495 he was a Commissioner of Array for the East Riding of Yorkshire.[11] The next year he witnessed the enfeoffment of extensive lands in various counties, made by Ralph, Earl of Westmorland to his eldest son Ralph Nevyll.[12]
William's death date is not known, but, given the three children from his second marriage and the 1497 date of the dispensation for it, he is unlikely to have died before 1500.
The Grey Friars Research Team (set up in 2012 under the auspices of the University of Leicester) give a death date of 1484 for William.[13] This cannot be right as William had a dispensation for his second marriage in 1497[1][2] and there are other records for William after 1484, as cited in the main part of the biography. There may be a confusion with William's brother Ralph whose will, dated 4 June 1483, was proved on 19 June 1484.[14]
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edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Google searches might be good for leads, but you'll need to track down the person in Richardson, Complete Peerage, or other more reliable sources. See the following WikiTree source pages:
See project pages for reliable sources at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Reliable_Sources_for_Pre-1700_Profiles & the Magna Carta Project's page here:
There's also a source page for pre-1500 profiles:
Cheers, Liz
Close to the same answer though - you'll need to track down more info about this William's son Robert.
Looked up this William in Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry (link to volume II, page 127 EURE 8 is in "See also" list... p 128 is not viewable in the snippit view, but EURE 9 on p 128 has "Ralph Eure (or Evers)", so doubtful his brother would be Hoore.
Lewis's database doesn't have anything more on Robert either.
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
The notes section of William's record lists several children without linked records. One of those names is Robert, with a notation that he was a knight (at least I'm assuming that that is what "Knt" means).
One of my Google searches turned up this:
https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Robert-Eure/6000000003210259772
This Sir Robert Eure's parents' names and other data match William Eure (Eure-20) and his wife Margaret Constable. It also supports this Robert having a brother named William who was a cleric (as noted in the Eure-20 list of William's unlinked children). The person who put together this geni.com record has included extensive footnotes, including the source Robert with "Sir" in front of his name (i.e. a knight) and his brother William the "pryst." That source is called "The Publications of the Surtees Society, Vol. CXXII" (page 125). The appropriate paragraph is about a third of the way down the page, and the link is:
https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofthe00surtuoft#page/125/mode/1up
I'm pretty new at getting this deep into genealogy... but that looks like it could be a decent and useful source.
Sir Robert is the only broken link in my Hoar (or however else it was spelled) ancestry, which starts at Mary Hoar Brown (Hoar 946), goes up to Richard Hoare (Hoare-158), breaks there, then picks up again with William (Eure-20) and ends with Richard FitzRichard (FitzRichard-80), who was born about 1138.
That geni.com record also lists our missing Robert as having a son named Richard, born in the same timeframe as the Richard of Hoare-158 and having a wife with the same name.
So I think one could make a good case that Hoore-1, Robert Hoore, is indeed the son of Eure-20, William, and the father of Richard, Hoare-158. And if so, he needs to be hooked into the line.
All the best,
Carolyn
And yes, "Knt." = Knight & the Lewis database presents them as Sir... - see https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1160.htm#i34846
Then, under the references listed on those geni.com pages, I found this:
https://archive.org/details/hoarfamilyinamer00nour/page/n7/mode/2up?q=%22Robert+Hoare%22
The name of the publication is The Hoar Family in America and its English Ancestry, by Henry Stedman Nourse, published by David Clapp & Sons, 1899. On the page linked above, it mentions at the top of page 5 Robert Hoare's will from 1545, which names his wife (which matches the name I have for her, and the one listed on Hoore-01 with just a slight spelling variation) and some children. It does not name son Richard (Hoare-158), the next one down in my own ancestral line, I would guess because Richard predeceased his father. He died in either 1544 or 1545 (there seems to be some disagreement on that; see the notes on Hoare-158). For what it's worth, the bottom of page 4 of this same book gives a date of 1544 for Richard's will.
It also says that Robert's will mentioned, in addition to his wife, sons Roger and Edward. I couldn't find either of them on Wikitree, but I found clues to them via Google at myheritage.com (https://www.myheritage.com/names/roger_hoare#), which says:
Roger Hoare, Circa 1538 - 1582 Roger Hoare was born circa 1538, at birth place, to Robert HOARE and Margery HOARE. Roger had 2 siblings: Edward Hoare and one other sibling.
At least one (apparently) correct sibling name, and correct parents' names.
So... is any of this evidence worth anything?
Evidence from a will is of course valid. I cannot speak for the book. You are likely to have to do your own research. You can always ask a question in G2G. Never trust anything in family trees on the web unless the information on them can be found in a good source.
About 7 years ago someone posted a query in G2G as to whether anyone had ever gotten any information further back than Richard Hoare (Hoare-158), whose is the oldest entry in that line. I left a reply that I too was looking for such info. I will not hold my breath waiting for a response....
Thank you all for your responses. If I learn anything new and definitive, I will come back here and post it, as chances are good that others will follow the same bunny trails as I did and end up here in their search for Hoare/Hoar/Hoore information.
edited by Michael Cayley
Children of Agnes Wentworth, by Robert Constable, Knt.:
Thank you!
A marriage date should not be after a spouse's death date. Can you take a look?