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William Eure (abt. 1440 - abt. 1500)

Sir William Eure aka Evers
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Died about at about age 60 in Englandmap
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Biography

Birth and Parents

William Eure/Evers was the son of Ralph Eure and Eleanor Greystoke.[1][2][3][4] His birth date is not known. It is uncertain when his parents married, but his maternal grandparents' marriage contract was dated 1407, and his maternal grandfather and grandmother were born respectively in about 1390 and 1393,[5] so, working forward, a birth date of about 1440 is possible. William was his father's main heir.[1][2][6]

Marriages and Children

William married twice. His first wife was Margaret Constable, daughter of Robert Constable[3][4] and Agnes Wentworth.[1][2] The date of their marriage is not known. They had at least the following children:

Before 3 July 1497 (when there was dispensation for the marriage as they were within the officially prohibited degrees of consanguinity), William married again, his second wife being Constance, last name at birth uncertain, widow of Henry Percy.[1][2] They had three children:

Life and Lands

William held lands Stokesley[6] and Malton in Yorkshire.[1][2] There is a 1483 record of his having been granted lands at "Aton in Pykerynglyth" (Great Ayton), Yorkshire by Margaret Lady Clifford (a cousin) and her son Henry.[7]

In 1478-9 the Bishop of Durham granted William coal and iron mines in Durham and Northumberland.[8]

William was Sheriff of Yorkshire in 1482-3.[9]

In 1490 William was granted the stewardship of Seymour, Yorkshire during the minority of Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland.[10] In 1495 he was a Commissioner of Array for the East Riding of Yorkshire.[11] The next year he witnessed the enfeoffment of extensive lands in various counties, made by Ralph, Earl of Westmorland to his eldest son Ralph Nevyll.[12]

Death

William's death date is not known, but, given the three children from his second marriage and the 1497 date of the dispensation for it, he is unlikely to have died before 1500.

Research Notes

The Grey Friars Research Team (set up in 2012 under the auspices of the University of Leicester) give a death date of 1484 for William.[13] This cannot be right as William had a dispensation for his second marriage in 1497[1][2] and there are other records for William after 1484, as cited in the main part of the biography. There may be a confusion with William's brother Ralph whose will, dated 4 June 1483, was proved on 19 June 1484.[14]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. II, pp. 127-128, EURE 8, Google Books
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. II, p. 527, EURE 11
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 Joseph Foster. The Visitation of Yorkshire made in the years 1584/5... to which is added the subsequent Visitation made in 1612, with several additional pedigrees, privately printed 1875, pp. 612-613, Internet Archive
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 The Visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563 and 1564 made by William Flower Esquire, Harleian Society, 1881, pp. 112-113, Internet Archive
  5. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol.II, p. 283, GREYSTOKE 10, Google Books
  6. 6.0 6.1 'Parishes: Stokesley', in A History of the County of York North Riding: Volume 2, ed. William Page (London, 1923), pp. 301-308, British History Online, accessed 25 February 2022
  7. The National Archives, ref. D7676/Bag C/1011, Discovery Centre catalogue entry
  8. The National Archives, ref. C 146/8458, Discovery Centre catalogue entry
  9. List of Sheriffs for England and Wales, HMSO, 1898, Kraus Reprint Corporation, 1963, p. 162, Internet Archive
  10. Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Henry VII, Vol. I, A.D. 1485-1494, HMSO, 1914, p. 302, Hathi Trust
  11. Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Henry VII, Vol. II, A.D. 1494-1509, HMSO, 1916, p. 52, Hathi Trust
  12. The National Archives, ref. E 40/7485, Discovery Centre catalogue entry
  13. The Grey Friars Research Team with Maev Kennedy and Lin Foxhall. The Bones of a King. Richard III rediscovered, University of Leicester/Wiley Blackwell, 2015, p. 199, Google Books
  14. Testamenta Eboracensia, Vol. IV, Surtees Society, 1869, p.83, footnote, Google Books

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was developed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley on 25 February 2022 and was reviewed the same day by Thiessen-117.
William Eure is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry in a Richardson-documented trail from the Mansfield Gateway Ancestors (Anne, Elizabeth and John Mansfield) to Magna Carta Surety Baron John FitzRobert (vol. II, pages 123-130 EURE). This profile also appears in a trail between the Mansfield Gateways and surety baron Robert FitzWalter. Both trails were badged by the Magna Carta Project in March 2022. See the Magna Carta Trails on the profile of the Gateways' father to view the profiles in both trails.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Please edit the Estimated Date template so that the red linked category will not appear. Use Estimated Date (inside the braces) to display Category:Estimated Birth Date. Thanks,

Natalie, Categorization Project

posted by Natalie (Durbin) Trott
Done. Thanks. ...............................................
posted by Traci Thiessen
I plan soon to do some work on this profile for the Magna Carta Project
posted by Michael Cayley
I have now finished the main work I currently intend on this profile. If anyone spots any typos etc, please either correct them or message me. Thanks!
posted by Michael Cayley
Looking at all the sources... I don't recall anything to support a maiden name for his 2nd wife (I was focused on looking for additional info on Robert). Any idea where Middleton come from?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
There appears to be no good source for it. I have changed it to Unknown, which accords with Visitations and Douglas Richardson.
posted by Michael Cayley
This man's son Robert might be Hoore-1. Google turns up entries for Robert Hoore, Robert Eure, Robert Hoare, and Robert Hore, all listed as the son of William, born in 1470. I am pretty new to genealogy so I'm not sure where to look for a reliable source to find out whether this is the right guy. Perhaps someone will be able to verify it.
posted by Carolyn Comings
Hoore might be another spelling of for Eure, but looking at Eure-20 & Hoore-1, they do not appear to represent the same person. (Dates are off & Eure-20 is not known to have a son named Roger, while a profile for son Roger is attached to Hoore-1.)

Google searches might be good for leads, but you'll need to track down the person in Richardson, Complete Peerage, or other more reliable sources. See the following WikiTree source pages:

See project pages for reliable sources at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Reliable_Sources_for_Pre-1700_Profiles & the Magna Carta Project's page here:

There's also a source page for pre-1500 profiles:

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
sorry - I misread that. You meant William's son Robert - no wonder dates were off!

Close to the same answer though - you'll need to track down more info about this William's son Robert.

Looked up this William in Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry (link to volume II, page 127 EURE 8 is in "See also" list... p 128 is not viewable in the snippit view, but EURE 9 on p 128 has "Ralph Eure (or Evers)", so doubtful his brother would be Hoore.

Lewis's database doesn't have anything more on Robert either.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thank you for passing on the links to some good sources. I will have a look at them when I get a chance.

The notes section of William's record lists several children without linked records. One of those names is Robert, with a notation that he was a knight (at least I'm assuming that that is what "Knt" means).

One of my Google searches turned up this:

https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Robert-Eure/6000000003210259772

This Sir Robert Eure's parents' names and other data match William Eure (Eure-20) and his wife Margaret Constable. It also supports this Robert having a brother named William who was a cleric (as noted in the Eure-20 list of William's unlinked children). The person who put together this geni.com record has included extensive footnotes, including the source Robert with "Sir" in front of his name (i.e. a knight) and his brother William the "pryst." That source is called "The Publications of the Surtees Society, Vol. CXXII" (page 125). The appropriate paragraph is about a third of the way down the page, and the link is:

https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofthe00surtuoft#page/125/mode/1up

I'm pretty new at getting this deep into genealogy... but that looks like it could be a decent and useful source.

Sir Robert is the only broken link in my Hoar (or however else it was spelled) ancestry, which starts at Mary Hoar Brown (Hoar 946), goes up to Richard Hoare (Hoare-158), breaks there, then picks up again with William (Eure-20) and ends with Richard FitzRichard (FitzRichard-80), who was born about 1138.

That geni.com record also lists our missing Robert as having a son named Richard, born in the same timeframe as the Richard of Hoare-158 and having a wife with the same name.

So I think one could make a good case that Hoore-1, Robert Hoore, is indeed the son of Eure-20, William, and the father of Richard, Hoare-158. And if so, he needs to be hooked into the line.

All the best,

Carolyn

posted by Carolyn Comings
The list of children is from Richardson, who does not give additional details on any but Ralph. Since this William is managed by the Magna Carta Project, you'll need clear primary sources to show that Hoore-1 is his son and Richard Hoare-158 his grandson. A geni.com record is not sufficient (and the record you gave the link for has no wife or child for Robert, and includes just a bit more info than Richardson: "Roberte Eure of Bradley" instead of just "Robert Eure, Knt."

And yes, "Knt." = Knight & the Lewis database presents them as Sir... - see https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1160.htm#i34846

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
the best bet for more info would be Visitations... this one doesn't one is apparently the source for "of Bradley" - see page 127.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
this one has Yvers with Eure in the footnote (see page 112). Still no details on Robert.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I managed to track down an online copy of the Complete Peerage, and I checked both Volume V (which includes the letter E, looking for Eure) as well as Volume VI in case our mystery guest was listed under Hoar or some variant thereof. I didn't find anything in either place.

Then, under the references listed on those geni.com pages, I found this:

https://archive.org/details/hoarfamilyinamer00nour/page/n7/mode/2up?q=%22Robert+Hoare%22

The name of the publication is The Hoar Family in America and its English Ancestry, by Henry Stedman Nourse, published by David Clapp & Sons, 1899. On the page linked above, it mentions at the top of page 5 Robert Hoare's will from 1545, which names his wife (which matches the name I have for her, and the one listed on Hoore-01 with just a slight spelling variation) and some children. It does not name son Richard (Hoare-158), the next one down in my own ancestral line, I would guess because Richard predeceased his father. He died in either 1544 or 1545 (there seems to be some disagreement on that; see the notes on Hoare-158). For what it's worth, the bottom of page 4 of this same book gives a date of 1544 for Richard's will.

It also says that Robert's will mentioned, in addition to his wife, sons Roger and Edward. I couldn't find either of them on Wikitree, but I found clues to them via Google at myheritage.com (https://www.myheritage.com/names/roger_hoare#), which says:

Roger Hoare, Circa 1538 - 1582 Roger Hoare was born circa 1538, at birth place, to Robert HOARE and Margery HOARE. Roger had 2 siblings: Edward Hoare and one other sibling.

At least one (apparently) correct sibling name, and correct parents' names.

So... is any of this evidence worth anything?

posted by Carolyn Comings
It would be better to start asking questions on Hoore etc profiles as nobody interested in the family is likely to look on this one.

Evidence from a will is of course valid. I cannot speak for the book. You are likely to have to do your own research. You can always ask a question in G2G. Never trust anything in family trees on the web unless the information on them can be found in a good source.

posted by Michael Cayley
Well, apparently about 98 percent of the internet has it that Hoar/Hoare/Hoore and Eure are spelling variations on the same family name... so it's entirely possible that folks looking for Hoare/Hoar/Hoore information will end up here as they search.

About 7 years ago someone posted a query in G2G as to whether anyone had ever gotten any information further back than Richard Hoare (Hoare-158), whose is the oldest entry in that line. I left a reply that I too was looking for such info. I will not hold my breath waiting for a response....

Thank you all for your responses. If I learn anything new and definitive, I will come back here and post it, as chances are good that others will follow the same bunny trails as I did and end up here in their search for Hoare/Hoar/Hoore information.

posted by Carolyn Comings
It looks unlikely to me that William was father of Robert, Hoore-1. The Eures were a very major family in the Northern half of England, with lands in Durham and Yorkshire and involvement in Northumberland. The Hoore family were a Gloucestershire one, a very long way away. Robert was a man of small means. In my mind, that almost completely rules out any father-son relationship. I am afraid I doubt this is worth further research.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
This profile has been identified as being on a Magna Carta Trail from Gateway Ancestor Anne Mansfield to surety baron John FitzRobert. I will soon be adding the Magna Carta Project as a co-manager of this profile in order to track the trail. Thanks.
posted by Traci Thiessen
Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume II, page 284 CONSTABLE 16iv.

Children of Agnes Wentworth, by Robert Constable, Knt.:

i. Marmaduke Constable, married (1st) Margery FitzHugh; (2nd) Joyce Stafford.
ii. Robert Constable, married Beatrice Hawcliff.
iii. Anne Constable, married William Tyrwhit.
iv. Margaret Constable, married William Eure.
v. Katherine Constable, married Ralph Ryther.

Thank you!

Hi! The Magna Carta project has identified this profile as on a 'trail' from Gateway Ancestor Anne Mansfield to Surety Baron Robert FitzWalter. We will be updating this profile in line with project guidelines. (See Base Camp, contact person Anderson-35092)
posted by Robin Anderson
An error exists on this profile...

A marriage date should not be after a spouse's death date. Can you take a look?

posted by Robin Lee