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John Flood (abt. 1622)

John Flood
Born about in Surry County, Virginiamap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died [date unknown] in Surry County, Virginiamap
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Biography

John Flood was likely born about 1615-1622. The basis for this is:[1]

  • On 15 Dec 1652 he deposed that he was aged 30 years; [2]
  • On 9 May 1659 he deposed that he was aged 44 yers. [3]

His parents are not certain, but were not Captain John Flood and Margaret, as this is too early. In particular, he is not listed with them in the 1624/25 muster.[1]

John Flood is mentioned in a headright in land in Virginia issued to Capt. John Flood in 1638. The patent names: "John Flood, an Ancient Planter, Marg. Flood, Jno. Flood, Fra. Finch, ..." and 16 other persons. It does not indicate that the second John Flood was related to the first.[4][5]

John Flood is also listed as sponsoring various immigrants in 1650, along with Col. John Flood, including Mary Flood.[6]

The name of his wife is not known. It is listed as Anne here, but there is no source for this.

He had two daughters:

  • Elizabeth, who married first Thomas King and then Nicholas Smith.[4]
  • Jane, who married Thomas Lane.[4]

These daughters are consistent with a land deed recorded in Surry County Virginia in 1693[7]

"Nov. 1693, recorded 21 Nov. 1693... Nich Smith and Elizabeth my wife and Thomas Lane and Jane my wife of Surry County in Virginia, being daughters of John Flood, late of Surry County, Virginia ... for 2000 pounds of tobacco deed to John Harrington and John Nelson of county aforesaid 150 acres in Surry County near the plantation of Arthur Jordan adjoining land formerly of Col John Flood."[8][4]

Layne - Lain - Lane genealogy: being a compilation of names and historical information of male descendants of sixteen branches of the Layne-Lain-Lane family in the United States, the gathered from legal records and other available sources, [9] (Note that the first John Flood is interpretted to be the present John Flood.)

His year of death is not known. It is listed as 1672 in some online family trees, but no source is provided for this. The above reference in 1693 to "John Flood, late of Surry County", indicates it would have been 1693 or earlier.

John Flood has been considered to be the second son of [Captain] John Flood and Margaret Saywell/Finch, of Virginia Colony, such as noted in "Adventurers of Purse and Person", 1956.[4] He appears with the older John Flood in some documents, but is not specifically identified as his son.

However more recent research, [10] has provided evidence that this younger John Flood was born 1615-1622. While the specific date may be uncertain, this makes it impossible for him to be the son of John Flood and Margaret Finch, as he is not listed with them in the 1624/1625 muster. Further it is John and Margaret's son Thomas that is listed as the latter John's heir.[1]

[11] Found that a Captain John Flood and John Flood,(ancient planter) together transported Mary Flood in 1650 to James City. John Fludd 1638 transported by Thomas Swann James City.

John Fludd 1648 transported by Thomas Woodhouse , James City.

John Fludd Jr. 1638 transported by John Fludd, ( Maybe father?) James City. [12]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 "Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1624/5. Fourth Edition, Volume One, Families A-F", by John Dorman. (Genealogical Publishing Company, 2009). See pages 995-996.
  2. (Surry County Deeds , Wills etc. book 1, 1651-72, page 16)
  3. (Surry County Deeds, Wills etc, book 1, 1651-72, page 131)
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 “Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia 1607-1625 and Their Families”, Annie Lash Jester (ed.). p.176. (Princeton University Press, Princeton, 1956). Available at Family Search
  5. ”Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1800”, by Nell Marion Nugent. Vol. I, p.194. (Press of the Dietz Printing, Richmond, 1934). Available at hathitrust.org
  6. “Early Virginia Immigrants 1623-1666”, by George Cabell Greer, p.116. (Genealogical Publishing Co, Baltimore, 1982). Available at hathitrust.org
  7. (Records of Surry County, Virginia, Book #3, p.336):
  8. (R. Surry Co, #3, p.336)
  9. compiled and published by Floyd Benjamin Layne, published Los Angeles, California, USA: The Bookman Press, 1962, page 247-249. Family Search Book Catalog
  10. documented in the Fourth Edition of "Adventurers of Purse and Person", 2009, and noted above,
  11. from Teresa Davis davistk at appstate.edu
  12. http://family.beacondeacon.com/early-virginia-immigrants-1623-1666.html




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In the book below , John flood that married Margaret had sons, John Flood Jr. and Captain Thomas Flood .

https://www.seekingmyroots.com/members/files/H011624.pdf

posted by Teresa Davis
edited by Teresa Davis
The referenced book by Boddie (1959) only specifically identifies Capt Thomas Flood as his son, which is what is currently shown in Wikitree. The reference in the land patent application to another Jno. Flood has been interpretted by some as another son (I am not sure that the original patent actually names the second Jno. Flood as "Jr".). Brodie does not specifically make that claim. And the reasons against it are described in this profile.
posted by Paul Gierszewski
I believe there is some confusion on WikiTree between Flood-231 and Fludd-4. Both are named Elizabeth and born in 1656 in Surry, Virginia Colony according to their profiles. Flood-231 is the daughter of John Flood, Jr (Flood-7) and Ann Flood (Unknown-238800) while Fludd-4 is the daughter of John Flood, Sr (Flood-101) and Fortune Jordan (Jordan 2010). Given the commonality of names, dates and places of birth, and father's name, confusion seems a likely possibility. I am an 8th great grandson of John Flood, Sr (Flood-101). When I first discovered this relationship on Family Search several years ago, my 8xgreat grandmother was given as Fortune Jordan (Jordan 2010). I had just had my DNA tested (Family TreeDNA) and decided to see if I had any matches with Flood and/or Jordan as family surnames in the FTDNA database. Indeed, I foumd numerous matches with those family surnames.

My descent from John Flood, Sr is via Elizabeth Flood (his daughter or granddaughter?) and Nicholas Smith (Smith-39623). When I connected with this branch on WikiTree I noticed that the Elizabeth Flood who was married to Nicholas Smith is Flood-231, daughter of John Flood, Jr (not Fludd-4, daughter of John Flood, Sr). If this new assignment is correct then my 8th great grandmother is Margaret Finch (Saywell-9), not Fortune Jordan (Jordan -231). Because of a genetic analysis that I will address shortly, I suspect that Flood-231 and Fluud-4 are the same person with the spousal assignment of Flood-231 and the parental assignments of Fluud-4. If they are really two separate people, then I suspect that Fluud-4 should have Nicholas Smith as spouse instead of Flood-231.

Genetic Analysis: Among my FTDNA matches are 4 individuals with Flood and/or Jordan ancestry who share with me a small segment on chromosome-10. These segments range from 2.07 cM (centa-Morgan) to 3.47 cM. They are too small for triangulation, but given my selection crtteria and their small sizes it is highly unlikely that they would not all match my maternal branch of Ch-10 (the branch that includes my Flood/Jordan ancestry). If that is the case then this commonly shared segment should be inherited from a common shared ancestor. Among my matches is one individual (Indv 1) whose pedigree tree includes John Flood, Sr and Fortune Jordan. This suggests that the segment in question comes from either John Flood, Sr or Fortune Jordan (provided our two pedigrees don't intersect in some other position). Another of the matches (Indv 2) descends from Arthur Jordan (Jordan-2932, Fortune Jordan's brother) and does not include any Flood surnames in their tree. That would suggest that my segment comes from Fortun Jordan (provided that the trees of my FTDNA matches are correct). I will henceforth call this segment the Jordan segment. Two other individuals (Indv3 and Indv 4) according to their trees descend from John Flood, Sr and Margaret Finch via their daughter Mary (Flood) Briggs (Flood-75). This would seem to invalidate my segment assignment to Fortune Jordan until, that is, one realizes that Mary Briggs was also married to John Washington (Washington-1017) and their son Richard (Washington-366) married Elizabeth Jordan (Jordan-3394), the niece of Fortune Jordan. If Indv 3 and Indv 4 both also descend from Richard and Elizabeth (which is indeed the case) then their possession of the Jordan segment under study is explained. Now this genetic data that I have just described is understandable only if I am descended from John Flood, Sr and Fortune Jordan (a descent via John Flood, Jr would not include any Jordan genes) , hence my suspicions regarding Flood-231 and Fluud-4. I will wait for the reactions of other profile managers before proposing a merger of these two individuals. If anyone would like to see more details of my genetic analysis they may email me at [email address removed] and I will respond with individual identies and graphics (it seems that I cannot paste a graphic in this comment).

UPDATE: After a series of email exchanges with Paul Gierzewski (thanks Paul) and further genetic analysis, I have been able to justify my possession of the Jordan segment without having Fortune Jordan in my pedigree. I still support the merging of Flood-231 and Fludd-4 but the change of parental assignment of Flood-231 is no longer compelling (ie eliminate Fludd-4).

posted by Dudley Miller
edited by Dudley Miller
Hi Lewis. You have clearly had time to think about the DNA results and their implications. A first impression, without having had that time, is that the conclusion might have other explanations. Perhaps these results can be considered as a clue which directs us to review the paper records to see if the story can be supported? A quick glance at the relevant profiles suggests that a number of the listed children are not well supported at present, and a good first step would be to improve those records.
posted by Paul Gierszewski
Is there any proven link between Flood-7 and John Flood (1694-1782) of Buckingham County, Virginia and DNA?
posted by Robert Flood

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