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John Fowler Sr (1747 - 1844)

PVT John Fowler Sr
Born in New Hanover County, Province of North Carolinamap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1776 in North Carolinamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 97 in Pike County, Alabama, United Statesmap
Profile last modified | Created 20 Apr 2011
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Biography

SAR insignia
John Fowler Sr is an NSSAR Patriot Ancestor.
NSSAR Ancestor #: 161170
Rank: Private
Daughters of the American Revolution
John Fowler Sr is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A041123.
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John Fowler Sr was a North Carolina colonist.
1776 Project
Private John Fowler Sr served with 1st North Carolina Regiment, Continental Army during the American Revolution.

Daniel Fowler (1714-1779) and Mary Jane (Rollins) Fowler (1725-1793) were the parents of John Fowler.[1] He was born in that part of New Hanover County, North Carolina[2] that became Duplin in 1750, and later, Sampson County, specifically, Taylors Bridge.[3]

According to WikiTree informant Richard Fowler, the children of John and Elizabeth (Rackley) Fowler[1] included the following eight children. Those who are listed among his registered DAR descendants are noted with a footnote;[2] and those with a FindAGrave memorial matched to his are also noted:[1]

  1. John Fowler Jr[2][3]
  2. Sarah Margaret (Fower) Cribb[2] who married Thomas Cribb (1781-1858)[3]
  3. Mary Anne Annie (Fowler) Sims who married William Sims[3]
  4. Elizabeth (Fowler) Simmons (1790-1857)[2] who married Isaac Simmons (1786-1864)[3]
  5. Lucretia (Fowler) Stephens who married a Stephens
  6. Richard Fowler (1792-1858)[1]who married Sallie Stephens[3]
  7. Charlotte (Fowler) Nobles who married Eli Nobles (b. ca 1794)
  8. Amelia Ann (Fowler) Wright (1807-1869)[1][2] who married Stephen Wright (1800-1852)[3]

Additionally, the following are attached to his FindAGrave memorial, for further review:[1]

  1. Hundly V Fowler (1806-1866)
  2. Elizabeth Olivia (Fower) Patton (1812-1893)
  3. R O Fowler (1817-1883)

Military Service & Later Life

According to Revolutionary War records, John Fowler was born in 1747 in Duplin (later Sampson) County, North Carolina. Different records show different ages. He enlisted as a private in the Revolutionary War in Sampson Co., North Carolina under Capt. Richard Clinton and Col. James Kenan. John was in the battle at Moores Creek Bridge in 1776. He later served under Capt. Alfred Moore and Col. Moore in the First North Carolina Regiment. He also served under Capt. William Vann. [4]

13 Aug 1832: John Fowler was in court on behalf of a fellow Revolutionary War soldier. He gave his age as eighty-five. [Duplin County, NC - Revolutionary War Military Services, via USGW Archives]

FOWLER, Daniel, Private, 1st North Carolina Continental Line
FOWLER, John, Private, Minuteman, NC Militia, 1st NC Continental Line[5] [6][7] Most authors conclude that he served three tours.

After the Revolutionary War was over, John and Elizabeth moved to Lancaster County, South Carolina with Elizabeth's brothers, Elijah and Shadrack Rackley.[8]

About 1804 John sold his property in South Carolina and began purchasing property in what is now Columbus County, North Carolina.[8]

John's pension application was executed 12 Nov 1832 (Fall Term) while residing in Columbus County, North Carolina. One transcription indicates that he was aged 85 years.[9][1]

By the fall of 1837, all of the children of John Fowler had moved to Pike County, Alabama with the exception of Amelia Ann who remained with Stephen on the Wright homeplace near Iron Hill.[8]

See also his extensive service records at The National Archives in Washington, DC.

Census Records

In which he was listed as a farmer.[10]

  • 1790 Sampson County, North Carolina (NC) Census
  • 1800 Lancaster District, South Carolina Census
  • 1810 Columbus County, NC Census. FHL 00044, Image 0337915, Roll 42, p. 10.
  • 1820 Columbus County, NC Census. NARA Roll M33_84, p. 57, Image 60.
  • 1830 Columbus County, NC Census
  • 1840 Pike County, Alabama Census. M704, 58.


Age & Death

Some records say he died in 1845, others 1846, but according to his pension records he was 99 in 1841 so more documentation is needed. The NASSAR and DAR agreement is off by a few days, so we have month and year certain. Note also that regarding his birth year, his pension application state that he was 85 in 1832, which is concordant with an 1747 birthdate.[1]

Burial: 1844, Near Troy, Alabama.[citation needed] as all other sources say 1845. FindAGrave states Stephens-Wright Cemetery, Sandy Plain, Columbus County, North Carolina, but this appears to be a memorial stone.

Research Notes

  • WIkiTree informant Richard Fowler, in a 21 Jul 2014 email, said the John Fowler who married Elizabeth Rackley didn't marry Hannah Sutton. Hannah was married to John's cousin, also a John Fowler. Therefore, Hannah Sutton is being detached as his wife (especially because she is already attached to his apparent cousin, as his wife). Note this information from Richard Fowler:
About thirty-five years ago when I submitted the DAR application for my sister...I forwarded absolute proof that the Revolutionary Patriot John Fowler, had never been married to Hannah Sutton.
I then received a communication from DAR that my research was correct, that those descendants of Hannah Sutton Fowler, and the other John Fowler, who were in DAR would not be removed, but that the future applications would be denied.
  • Jeremiah (b. 1761) and Micajah Rackley are also listed in the Duplin (Sampson) Co., NC Revolutionary War Service Records. Questions remain as to whether they may be related to John Fowler's wife, Elizabeth Rackley?.
  • Further research is needed to make sure all these John Fowlers are the same.
  • To be reviewed: The National Archives in Washington, D. C. for Revolutionary War records for John W. Fowler.
  • Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from FGSE/user submissions: no information is available on the quality of the data or whether a source was used to make the FGSE.
  • It is unknown whether this resource was accessed in the creation of this profile. Ancestry.com Title: Alabama Revolutionary War Soldiers Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Original data - Alabama Department of Archives and History. Revolutionary Soldiers in Alabama. Montgomery, AL, USA: The Brown Printing Co., 1911. Original data: Alabama Department of Arc.
  • It is not known if this repository was used in constructing this profile. Ancestry.com Title: U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.Original data - United States. Bureau of Land Management, General Land Office Records. Automated Records Project; Federal Land Patents, State Volumes. Springfield, Virginia: Bureau of Land...
  • It is not known if this repository was used in the construction of this profile. Ancestry.com Title: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data - Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 Includes a transcription of his pension interview and other American Revolutionary War information. Find a Grave, database and images www.findagrave.com/memorial/88105417/john-fowler accessed 26 Jan 2023, memorial page for Pvt John Fowler Sr. (1747–1845), Find A Grave: Memorial #88105417, citing Stephens-Wright Cemetery, Sandy Plain, Columbus County, North Carolina, USA; Maintained by Brenda Black Watson (contributor 46634709).
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR Genealogical Research Databases, database online, (http://www.dar.org/ : accessed 26 Jan 2023), "John Fowler", Ancestor # A041123.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 His parents precede this generation of John Fowler, see Chapter 2: The Duplin-Sampson Fowlers, Gen I on p. 15, he and his brothers are shown under Gen II on p. 15-25A; his children are shown in Chapter 3: Columbus-Horry Co and Alabama Fowlers, on p. 25. Fowler, Richard Gildart. A History of the Fowler Family of Southeastern North Carolina. 1985/9. Norman, Oklahoma: Author. Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah.
  4. Revolutionary War Soldiers for NC and SC, Data provided by the website Carolana.
  5. United States Archives, Pension S. 16809
  6. "Revolutionary War Records of Duplin-Sampson Counties."
  7. Revolutionary War Pension, 1841, Alabama. Fowler, John, senior, age 99, resided in Pike County, June 1, 1840. Census of Pensioners 1841, p. 149.
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 Summary of an article compiled by Richard Fowler
  9. Minutes of the 1832 fall term of Columbus County, NC, Superior Court.
  10. Additional backup for locating the census records to examine them may exist: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp. Alabama Census, 1810-90 Publication: Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999. Original data - Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes. Additional reference information that may link to FamilySearch record matches on the census volume containing the desired records:
    • 1810: M252, 71
    • 1820. M33, 14
See also:

Acknowledgements

  • Thanks to informant Richard Fowler for sending a summary updating and correcting information for John Fowler.
  • Fowler-5084 was created by Diane Cribbs through the import of John Cribb A.ged 5 Sep 2015.




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There is a DBE error on this profile indicating that P-A041123 is an invalid SAR patriot number. Is that a typo that can be fixed?
posted by Scott McClain
Thanks for the alert. I've since corrected it.
posted by Porter Fann
US Southern Colonies Project Managed Profiles Team adding PMP/PPP—confused/conflated with others. Please continue to manage normally.
posted by Ken Spratlin
From an analysis of the narrative, it looks as though the 1800 Fayetteville, Sampson County, North Carolina census record belongs to his cousin, John Fowler (abt.1730-abt.1808); whereas, the narrative here fits well with the duplicative 1800 report on John Fowler being present in the Lancaster County, South Carolina census (see discussion of report from Richard Fowler, currently Source #6).
posted by Porter Fann
By the way, the report on the John Fowler and Hannah Sutton family that is inferred as a subject of Richard Fowler's research to distinguish these cousins, both named John but having different vital dates and wives, would perhaps also be useful to provide more confirmation and detail for the profile on cousin John Fowler (abt.1730-abt.1808).
posted by Porter Fann
I found the text: Fowler, Richard Gildart. A history of the Fowler family of southeastern North Carolina. 1989. Norman, Oklahoma & Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah.
posted by Porter Fann
Added in the most significant proofs from the Fowler text.
posted by Porter Fann
Fowler-2097 and Fowler-742 do not represent the same person because: These two John Fowlers had different histories, including vital dates and wives. Some researchers have identified them as cousins.
posted by Porter Fann
Is it possible that some of the children who are not among the eight could belong to Hannah (Sutton) Fowler and her husband, John Fowler?
posted by Porter Fann
The narrative indicates that the John Fowler who married Hannah Sutton was not the same as the John Fowler who married Elizabeth Rackley, yet here they are both attached to this one. Did we perhaps do a bad merge?

Also, I see no support for the son William. Perhaps another indication that we merged two separate John Fowlers?

posted by Jillaine Smith
I agree that confusion has arisen, but in fact two John Fowlers are attached to Hannah Sutton. Only one belongs, but the other one is not a duplicate.

The John Fowler of present appears to the be the traditional PVT John Fowler of the Am. Rev. That should be confirmed and if so, he should be 1776 stickered and categorized.

If I am reading the discussion between Hannah Sutton's profile and this one: PVT did not marry Hannah Sutton; however, Hannah Sutton DID marry a different John Fowler, who was the cousin of the PVT John Fowler, and this John Fowler who was in the Am. Rev. DID marry Elizabeth Rackley.

In Summary: confirm that this profile is Am. Rev. PVT John Fowler and annotate his profile, appropriately to signify that distinction.

Condense the discussion here into a Research Note that Hannah Sutton was married to a a different John Fowler, this John's cousin: John Fowler (abt.1730-abt.1808) - the kinship has not been directly worked out, but we'll be closer to having the arrangements by cleaning up Hannah's marriages to both cousins that didn't happen.

Update Hannah Sutton's profile to indicate which John Fowler she married (John Fowler (abt.1730-abt.1808)) and move to Research Notes that she did not also marry this profile's PVT John Fowler.

Unfortunately, I have to do some re-arrangement on the non-patriot John Fowler on FamilySearch...

With these re-alignments, I think we are well on our way to having the two lines of Fowlers to shape up, nicely.

posted by Porter Fann
Porter, would you be willing to implement the changes you propose? No one else (except you) has responded in over two years...
posted by Jillaine Smith
edited by Jillaine Smith
Yes, I can work on this. I have another challenging set of profiles that I am working on that I need to finish, first, however.
posted by Porter Fann
OK, went ahead and did everything except try to hunt down the census records that should exist on FamilySearch. (Now, on to remove the incorrect spouse.)
posted by Porter Fann
Thanks so much, Porter; much appreciated.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Fowler-5084 and Fowler-742 appear to represent the same person because: These profiles look to be duplicates, same dates and locations in addition to a duplicated spouse
posted by Richard Shelley
This profile has been identified as a duplicate by Bob Keniston, an Arborist. Please review the proposed merge - bottom of the profile on the left. If they are duplicates please approve the merge. If you have questions or would like assistance please ask. Thank you.
posted by Bob Keniston Jr.
It would be wonderful to get the two John Fowler's merged: Fowler 742 and Fowler-1975. This ancestral line in my branch of the family is at a standstill until the process is completed. Adding more of my ancestors would mean duplicating what you already have so it would be great if you would complete the merge. Thanks. :)
posted by Debby (Barton) Black