Thomasine (Frost) Rice
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Thomasine (Frost) Rice (bef. 1600 - 1654)

Thomasine "Tamazine" Rice formerly Frost
Born before in St James, Stanstead, Suffolk, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 15 Oct 1618 in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 53 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 22 Feb 2010
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Biography

Thomasine (aka Tamazine) Frost was baptized 11 August 1600,[1] at Saint James Church, Stanstead, England, daughter of Edward Frost and Tamazine Belgrave.[2][3]

She married Deacon Edmund Rice on 15 October 1618 at St Mary's Church, Bury St. Edmunds, England. As late as 1627, they resided in 1627 at Berkhamstead, England.[4][5][6][7][8][9]

Likely of Puritan faith, being among those who fled religious persecution in England. They settled in Sudbury, Massachusetts. She died there on 13 June 1654,[10] where she was buried 18 June 1654.[11]

Children

Thomasine gave birth to the following children:[2] (We should replace the ERA references with references to more original sources where available.)

  1. Mary Rice, born August 23, 1619.
  2. Henry R. Rice, born February 13, 1619–20, died February 10, 1709–-10, married Elizabeth Moore February 1, 1641–42.
  3. Edward Rice, born October 20, 1622, died August 15, 1712, married (1) Anna, (2) Agnes Bent 1646.
  4. Thomas Rice, born January 26, 1625–6, died November 16, 1681, married Mary King 1652.
  5. Lydia Rice, born March 9, 1626–27, died April 5, 1675, married Hugh Drury 1645.
  6. Matthew Rice, born February 28, 1627–28, died 1717, married Martha Lamson November 2, 1654.
  7. Daniel Rice, stillborn.
  8. Samuel Rice, born November 12, 1634, died February 25, 1683–84, married (1) Elizabeth King, (2) Mary Dix September 1668, (3) Sarah White December 13, 1676.
  9. Joseph Rice, born March 13, 1636–37, died December 23, 1711, married (1) Sarah Prescott, (2) Mary Beers, (3) Mercy King.
  10. Benjamin Rice, born May 31, 1640, died December 19, 1713, married (1) Mary Chamberlain, (2) Mary Browne.
Note: Despite the presence of such in many locations (including here on WikiTree), the 1983 Edmund Rice (1638) Association publication "Supplement 2 part 1" says there is no proof that a son Edmund ever existed. An April 1714 Middlesex Co probate [citation?] gave the illusion of such a child, but subsequent research revealed this 1714 probate action was for son EDWARD. Somehow this probate involved the estate of the old man Edmund Rice Senior because essentially every one of his offspring had a descendant represented in that probate (see the Ward ca1857 Rice book, the very same book that created the false illusion of a son Edmund).
The Edmund Rice (1638) Association estimates that after 13 or 14 generations, descendants of Edmund Rice may be in the many hundreds of thousands to millions.

Sources

  1. The American Genealogist and New Haven Genealogical Magazine 1934-01: Vol 10 Iss 3,page 135, https://archive.org/details/sim_american-genealogist_1934-01_10_3/page/134/mode/2up
  2. 2.0 2.1 The Edmund Rice (1638) Association, Database, gives four secondary sources for the birth and baptism of Thomasine Frost: 1. A Genealogical Register of Edmund Rice Descendants. Rutland, VT: The Charles E. Tuttle Company, 1970. 2. Porter, Harold F.. "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost, Wife of Deacon Edmund Rice of Sudbury, Mass.", The American Genealogist 63, No. 3 (July 1988). 3. Holman, Mary Lovering. "English Notes on Edmund Rice", The American Genealogist 10 (1933-34). 4. Porter, Harold F. "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost Wife of Edmund Rice of Sudbury, Mass.", The American Genealogist 61, No. 3 (January/April 1986).
  3. Sumner, Edith Bartlett.. Descendants of Thomas Farr of Harpswell, Maine and ninety allied families. Los Angeles, Calif.: Lithographed from compiler's typescript by American, Includes bibliographical references and index.
  4. Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1.
  5. Harold F. Jr Potter, "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", p. 134.
  6. Harold F. Jr Porter, "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", pp. 165-166.
  7. Mary Lovering Holman, "Notes on Edmund Rice", in The American Genealogist, vol 10, pp. 134-135.
  8. Andrew Henshaw A.M. Ward, The Rice Family.
  9. "Sudbury, MA Vital Records, ," in New England Historic Genealogical Society, vol #? (date) p. 323.
  10. Tomazine Rice 1654 death, citing "a copy of Middlesex County Records of births, marriages and deaths in [Sudbury]," Andrew H. Ward, "Sudbury Records," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 17 (1863):170-72 at 172; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  11. Judson, History of Sudbury, p 41

See also: (remove those that are already referenced in footnotes)

  • Ann Gulbransen,Descendants of Thomas Wheeler (9422) link via Wayback Machine, archive captured 27 July 2015.
  • History of the Town of Marborough, Pages 240-247
  • The American Genealogist, 65 (1990): page #s?
  • Research of J. C. Adamson.
  • The Wheeler Family of Clermont County Ohio and Lincoln, Middlesex, Norfolk, & Worcester Counties Massachusetts Descendants of Richard Wheeler of Dedham, online and sourced descendancy report. Wayback Machine Archive, 25 Oct 2021
  • Bennett, Archibald. Ancestry of The Wife of Edmund Rice, The American Genealogist (1950) Vol. 26, Page 10.
  • New England Marriages prior to 1700; page 620.
  • Pope, Charles Henry: "Pioneers of Massachusetts"; page 177 (Frost)




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I am confused by all the women with the Christian name "Thomasine".

They all seem to marry a man with the last name of Mayo. They are born all over the world and go to Sudbury, Middlesex County, Mass to die

posted by Bob Hartman
While the NEHGR image posted to this profile is not strictly necessary and another PGM member kindly added a link to the freely available source it, the content of the image is in the public domain and posting it does not violate copyright. See https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/503902/yes-its-still-ok-to-post-public-domain-images for additional information.
posted by Brad Stauf
edited by Brad Stauf
Frost-2173 and Frost-28 appear to represent the same person because: Gerner does not exist. On the Ancestry trees she is sometimes called Gerner Mary Frost, but I don't think she was meant to be Mary. She has the same death as Thomasine and some Ancestry trees have her married to Thomasine's husband Edmund Rice. Please merge away Gerner into Thomasine. Thank you.
posted by Anne B
Frost-4695 and Frost-28 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, birth date is a guess, same marriage, same death date and place.

Please approve if you agree. Thanks!

posted by Cynthia (Billups) B
Frost-4806 and Frost-28 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth year, same spouse (dups pending merge), child on -4806 also on -28. No other data to go on in orphan -4806. Please merge.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Edward Frost (Frost-72) and Thomasine Belgrave (Belgrave-2) had no son Gerner who survived beyond 1616. Edward's will names all his children alive in 1616 and Gerner is not one of them. See TAG 10:135
posted by Jillaine Smith