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Stephen Gardner (1483)

Stephen [uncertain] Gardner
Born in Bury, Lancashire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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This is not Stephen Gardiner Bishop of Winchester & Lord High Chancellor (buried at Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England)

Do not merge with his profile, or add parents to this profile without discussing on G2G. Fitz-Henry-9 23:53, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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Just from going over the line for the past week ... alledged dau. Anne was meant to be in the line of the Bishop, but she's spurious nonetheless. So ... maybe recycle and double-check siblings. ... But technically, thus far, the line should prob. start w/ George (whose given name doesn't seem certain because it's alternately thought to be 'Cuthbert'), father of George, Dean of Norwich. The other siblings are questionable, but I'm still studying the line... More later.
posted by [Living Ogle]
Bree, the father has been disconnected in anticipation of a merge.

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posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Sweet! That was so fast ... I was expecting next week LOL!
posted by [Living Ogle]
The alledged father is a duplicate of the father of the Chancellor's/Bishop of Winchester, who was son of son John, cloth maker. Remove PPP to fix... then merge John with the duplicate. The copy of John (father of this profile), has too many comments about the chancellor's father.

PS: ... what the line is trying to do is weave into the Gardiners of Berwick upon Tweed, co. Northumberland, who somehow obtained the same arms as Thomas Gardiner, Prior of Tynemouth a few generations after he served in that role. (Prior Thomas Gardyner was the only son of Helen Tudor & her husband but the known male line of that branch stops with him).

posted by [Living Ogle]
edited by Bree Ogle
This line going back 300+ years is all unsourced, and I find no information. The birth location for many of his predecessors didn't exist. I think it's probably a fabricated line, and would like to eliminate it via merges if that is the case. Please let me know if you have any comments, concerns or questions. Thanks.
Removed death date as this is not the Bishop of Winchester
posted by C. Mackinnon
Thank you, all who messaged me in agreement that the Catholic priest and bishop Stephen Gardiner of Bury (in Suffolk county --not Lancashire county) should be changed to Steven Gardiner --the Steven Gardiner of Lancashire-- as father of George Gardiner I, with a new profile being made for Bishop Stephen of Bury so that he will stop being confused with this Steven Gardiner of Lancashire as George's father.
posted by Martyn Mulford
Steven Gardiner (not Gardner) of Lancashire county (not Bury), possible son of Helen Tudor and William Gardiner (possible brother of John Gardiner and thus uncle of Bishop Stephen Gardiner, of Bury), may have been the father of George Gardiner, inasmuch as the same coat of arms held by Thomas Gardiner of Tynemouth (son of William and Helen) was also held by George Gardiner's son, Rev George Gardiner.
posted by Martyn Mulford