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Cutbury (Gibbs) Trotter (bef. 1632 - 1667)

Cutbury Trotter formerly Gibbs
Born before in Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 9 Dec 1652 in Newbury, Essex, Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 35 in Woodbridge, Middlesex, New Jerseymap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Sep 2010
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Cutbury (Gibbs) Trotter is currently protected by the Puritan Great Migration Project for reasons described in the narrative.
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Since Cutbury is the spouse of William Trotter (who is part of the PGM Project),"Puritan Great Migration Adjunct" is being applied to this profile so that it can be monitored to avoid re-creation or merging with Katherine Gibbs.

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Disputed Origins

For some reason, someone has decided, without quality, reliable sources, that Cutbury was originally named Catherina/Catherine/Katherine Gibs/Gibbs/Gibbes and then decided that her parents must be John Gibbs Jr. (1600-1650) and Joane (Scott) Gibbs (1605-1655). John and Joane were married in Long Sutton, Somerset, England.

Searches for a Cutbury Gibbs (as well as variations), born in England sometime from 1615 to 1635 return no results. Which probably caused those looking for her to turn their eyes toward other names.

Searches for a Katherine Gibbs born in England from 1615 to 1635 return quite a few results. One of which is Katherine, daughter of John Gibbes, baptized 8 Jul 1628 in Bath Abbey, Somerset, England[1] which is approximately 35 miles from Long Sutton, Somerset, where John and Joan were married. It is not out of the question that the couple moved after they married. However, on 10 Oct 1629 in the Bath Abbey parish records, there is a burial for "Catherine, ye daughter of John Gibbs".[2] As there appear to be no other Catherine/Katherine Gibbs/Gibbes born to a John in that time period and place, the most likely conclusion is that the Katerine baptized in 1628 is the one who was buried in 1629.

On some online trees, it seems that to circumvent the problem of having Katherine (the supposed Cutbury) die as an infant, a fictitious "Catalina" was created as the deceased daughter of John Gibbs.

As of yet, there are no quality, reliable sources linking this Cutbury to any family in England.

Biography

Cutbury (Gibbs) Trotter was a New Netherland settler.

Birth

It is unknown where or when Cutbury was born, although it was most likely in England and, based on her marriage, probably before 1632.

Marriage and Children

Cutbury Gibbs and _____ Trotter were m. 9 December 1652 in Newbury, Massachusetts[3] Between 1652 and 1665 William Trotter was the only person named Trotter having children in New bury. (Abigail, Mary, Rebecca, Samuell, Sara, ___.[4]

Children:

  1. Mary Trotter
  2. Rebecca Trotter
  3. Martha Trotter
  4. Benjamin Trotter
  5. Samuel Trotter
  6. William Trotter
  7. Abigail Trotter
  8. Sarah Trotter
  9. Rebecca Trotter
  10. Robert Trotter
  11. Rebecca Trotter
  12. Sarah Trotter

Research Notes

Conflated Cutbury/Katherine

Cutbury has been confused with Katherine Gibbs, daughter of John Gibbs Jr. and Joane (Scott/Stott) Gibbs. See the "Disputed Origins" section for information on why they are not the same.

Sources

  1. Somerset Heritage Service; Taunton, Somerset, England; Somerset Parish Records, 1538-1914, Ref# D\P\ba.ab/2/1/1; as found at Ancestry.com, Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812; image 33 of 269 by subscription Ancestry.com; under the year 1628, "Katherine the Daughter of John Gibbes was Baptized the eighteth of July."
  2. Somerset Heritage Service; Taunton, Somerset, England; Somerset Parish Records, 1538-1914, Ref# D\P\ba.ab/2/1/1; as found at Ancestry.com, Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812; image 201of 269 by subscription Ancestry.com;.
  3. Vital records of Newbury, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849 Salem, Mass. : Essex Institute 1911. Vol 2 p. 192
  4. Vital records of Newbury, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1849. Vol 1. p. 531

The following sources were initially associated with this profile but are not of high quality:

  • American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI), Godfrey Memorial Library, comp. Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999. Original data - Godfrey Memorial Library. American Genealogical-Biographical Index. Middletown, CT, USA: Godfrey Memorial Library.
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #7864416 contains erroneous information concerning Cutbury.




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Should we add "Catharine" as other nickname? The marriage record of her daughter Sarah apparently says that her mother's name was Catharine (not Cutbury). Source: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VW5N-RTR
posted by Kenneth Kinman
Hi Kenneth,

Given all the confusion about her name, and, without substantial proof work, the rabbit hole to which that might again attract us, I would not.

Separately, that source refers to images, but no image is available.

I looked over Sarah's profile, It seems to rely on a number of alternative sources--acceptable to some projects, but not considered reliable on PGM. (Yates Publishing's marriage records, Family Data Collection, etc.).

My two cents. --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
There seem to be quite a few Cutbury plus variant first names in Wiltshire

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Thank you all for supporting WikiTree. I have reverted today's profile edits as they perpetuated the notion that she had been shown to be a "Catherina" Gibbs of Somerset.

If folks believe Cutbury was baptized under an alias, please post the various contemporaneous historical records and insight so that we can collaborate about those claims.

As with all genealogical work, our findings are subject to revision based on improved discovery and analysis.--Gene

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
I’d be looking for where a Cutbury plus variants surname family came from. It may well be that the surname of the family was used as a first name. It happened in my Turner family where a lot of descendants either have Fulham as a first or middle name. Possibly mother was a Cutbury?

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
This person is *not* proven to be Katherine of Bath Abbey, the daughter of John Gibbs. See the "Disputed Origins section.

Her data fields have been updated to reflect her unknown origins.

Since it is unknown when Cutbury arrived in America, she has had the PGM template removed, but the PGM Adjunct has been applied as her husband was PGM.

posted by Scott Carles
The profile asks users to consult before making significant changes. Here are sources for 4 proposed corrections:

1. Correction of name: Cutbury was Gibbs's first name. She's identified as Cutbury on her original marriage record. See Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910 [1]. And she's identified as Cutbury in secondary sources. See James Savage's 1862 "Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England," vol 4, p 332:

"TROTTER, WILLIAM, Newbury, m. Dec. 1652, Cutbury Gibbs (herein I follow Coffin, with resolute protest of incredul. against the unchristian name), had Mary, b. 22 Jan. 1654; Rebecca, 5 July 1655; Samuel, 5 June 1657; Abigail, 1 Feb. 1664; Sarah, 3 May 1665." [2]

2. Correction of baptism: Cutbury was baptized on 11 Nov 1627 in Hemington, Somerset. See England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. [3]

3. Addition of Catalina (Catherine) Gibbs as a sibling: The profile now gives Catalina's date of baptism as Cutbury's. Catalina (Catherine) was baptized in Bath Abbey 8 July 1628 and buried there on 10 Oct 1629. See images of the original Bath Abbey parish records of both her baptism and burial attached to Catalina Gibbs (1628-1629) on Family Search. [4]

4. Correction of place of death: Woodbridge wasn't founded for another 2 years. Find-a-Grave gives Edison, NJ, which is plausible, but the memorial doesn't cite any sources. Cutbury's husband William Trotter was among the Elizabeth Town (NJ) Associates and signed the oath on 19 Feb 1666. See Honeyman's "History of Union County" (1923), p 21. [5] Bergen County Genealogical Society suggests she died in Newbury, but notes it doesn't have a primary source for the information. [6]. If the family moved soon after Trotter signed on as an Elizabeth Town Associate, then Cutbury died in NJ. Records identifying son Robert's place of birth could confirm her place of death. She appears to have died during or very shortly after childbirth. Her death is given as 7 July 1667, and her husband William Trotter remarried on 28 September of that year. See William Trotter and Alice Ebell, NY County Marriages, British Colonial America. [7].

The entry IDs Gibbs as both a Great Migration & a New Netherland emigrant. I'm not sure whether colonists who moved from the Bay Colony to NJ after the English gained control of New Netherland are included in the later project.

posted by Jill Piggott
edited by Jill Piggott
Hello. I am George Gibbs born in Dorset England.

There is a book the title West country Pilgrims. I think it ends with to the new world. There were a 145 passengers on the "Nary and John" which sailed to new England in 1630. Almost all the passengers were , Freemen, and living in Dorset, A few families originated from Devon and a few from Somerset. They named the Settlement Dorchester after the county town of Dorset, because the Vicar of Dorchester started the idea of a community in new England many years earlier. Giles1 Gibbs is in my tree proven by DNA, and pointed out to me by an American. and a Canadian why are descendants also. Mewbury . The first Newbury inherited some Gibbs land in Dorset and actually returned to inspect his inheritance. I do not know how much you have found. But hope this may help your research. I am 92 years of age. Also A Cherry Hood Schidt is related and helping to join the Gibbses to one tree. Good luck in your research George Gibbs

posted by George Gibbs
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posted by Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie

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