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Thomas (Gray) Graye (abt. 1593 - bef. 1658)

Thomas "ancient planter of Virginia" Graye formerly Gray
Born about in Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1618 in Colony of Virginiamap
Husband of — married after 1645 (to 1658) in Surrey County, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 65 in Surry, Virginiamap
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Biography

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D i s a m b i g u a t i o n

  • Thomas Gray of Wapping, mariner (b. abt. 1595 - d. bef. 1627), son of Thomas Gray of Harwich, co. Essex & Katherine Myles
  • Thomas Grey of Angerton, co. Northumb. (d. bef. 1656), son of Sir Edward Grey (d. 1632) of Howick and Morpeth, co. Northumb. & Catherine le Strange.

Summary

Thomas Gray (Graye) (b. abt 1593;[1] living March 1654; d. before 02 Nov 1658 Surrey co., VA),[2] ancient planter of Virginia. He Dorman (2004) and Nugent (1934), call him "Gray." Dorman (2004), also states that he died before 02 November 1658.

The the muster roll in Hotten (1874), and McCartney (2007), spell his last name as "Graye."
Nugent (1934), states that he was living during the time of Sir Thomas Dale; and had a patent dated 27 Aug 1635.[9][3][4][5]

End of Summary; Biography continued

According to "Virginia Historical Societies" (2009), Thomas was only 15 when he immigrated in 1608; and his first marriage took place in Virginia during 1618.[10]

Dorman (2004), disputes the location and time of Thomas' first marriage, stating that it took place on 29 March 1611, in St. Peter's at St. Paul's Wharf in London.[11] If true... this could mean that Thomas immigrated at a later date, and did not sail on the Starr with Phettiplace Clause and Francis Chapman, as show in "Colonial Surrey" (1966). [12] Alternatively, he may have made more than one trip to the colonies.

The muster of Virginia inhabitants, dated 23 January 1624,[13] and published in Hotten (1874), is not able to settle this question because it did not state the ship or Thomas' date of arrival.[14] But it does show that at that time, Thomas had two children: Joan (age 6) and William (age 3); and a wife named Margrett.[6]

Parents

Marriage

There is some disagreement about the names and number of Thomas' wives.

A 1635 patent states that Gray's first wife was Annis, and names Rebecca as the current spouse.[15][16]

In his compiliation of Virginia immigrants, Greer (1921), also names Annis as a wife of Thomas Gray, and explicitly states that Rebecca was the second.[8] Dorman (2004), however, asserts that Rebecca is the planter's third spouse.

Boddie (2009), seems to combine information gleened from the patent and Hotten's muster list,[6] and calls Gray's first wife as both "Annis" (found in patent) and "Margrett" (found in muster), thereby attributing children Jone and William to one woman. Dorman (2004), goes in entirely different direction and splits Annis and Margrett into two women. He asserts that Annis is the first wife, while Margrett is the second, and makes Jone and William the children of Annis.

The name of Thomas' first wife would be Lady Margaret of the Annis family. Annis being her last name at birth. I'll dig up the source. Annis and Margaret are not 2 separate women. Trudy

The works of Boddie (2009) and Dorman (2004), also conflict when it comes to the location of where Gray's marriage to Annis and Thomas took place. Boddie (2009), states that Thomas married his first wife in Virginia in 1618, while Dorman (2004), states that Gray married a woman named Annis Valentine at St. Peter Pauls Wharf in London.[9]

Dorman (2004), does not explain how he arrived at the conclusion that Annis' last name is Valentine, and is in conflict Nugent's (1934), printing of Thomas Gray's deed, dated 27 August 1635.[10] But it appears to be based on the marriage of a mariner named "Thomas Gray of Stepney", to a woman named Annis(?) Valentine in 1611, found in the registers of St Peter Paul's Wharf, and said to be a widow.[11]

Marriage record for Thomas Gray of Stepney and Annis Valentine

Annis?

m.1 (disputed - 29 Mar 1611 St. Peter, Pauls' Wharf, London or 1618 VA or after 1624) Annis (or Anise; Avis)[12][3][9][13][11] and/or Margrett (d. bef. 24 Jan 1624/5 or bef. 11 Sep 1626). Issue:[12][14] Boddie (2009) implies that Margaret is the first wife, but then states that Anis/Annis/Avis was the first wife. His research was done in the 1800s, and continues to be reprinted in later editions. Boddie's source for Margrett is the, [15]

children
  • Jone (Jane) (b.1619).[16]
m. John Hux[17]
  • William Gray (b. 1622 - d. Young)[16]

Rebecca

m.2/3 (by 11 Sep 1626) Rebecca (living 1635; d. bef. 1645).[12][18][19][13][14] Issue:

children
  • Thomas Gray[12][17]
  • Rebecca (b. abt. 1628/30 - d. by 20 May 1655).[17]
m. Daniel Hutton
  • Francis Gray (c.1630/5 - before May 1679)[12][17]

unknown

m.3/4 (abt 1645) Unknown.[18][12][20]

children

Immigration

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Thomas (Gray) Graye migrated from England to USA in 1610's.
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Occupation

  • before May 1616: Ancient Planter of Virginia[17][12][25] ... at or before the time of Sir Thomas Dale.[17] Patent: 27 Aug 1635[26][27]

Residence

Residence data from merge (24 Aug 2015)

  • Gave a deposition where he testified that Daniel Hutton deceased had left his estate to Rebecca Gray, Hutton;s daughter.[30]

Property

  • 02 Aug 1635: 550 acre land patent.[26]

Servants

Muster

  • 24 Jan 1624/5: 2lb powder; 10lb shot; 1 fixed piece; 1 armor; 11 barrels of corn.[34]

Discussion

THIS IS A SPACE SET UP FOR THE PROFILE MANAGERS OF THIS PROFILE TO DISCUSS ONGOING WORK ON THOMAS GRAY. PLEASE NO NOT REMOVE. WE WILL BE SETTING UP A STUDY PAGE. Please identify who you are and the date you make your comment. This is again getting confusing.

Written by TRUDY: My questions and direction of study at this time.

1.) Parents of Thomas Gray.

Thomas Gray and Katherine Miles

  • This is doubtful because their son Thos. Gray of Wapping, the mariner d. bef. 1627.[35]

Sir Edward Grey of Morpeth and Howick and Catherine le Strange

Will of Thomas Gray of Ulgham in Morpeth, Northumb., 10 Dec 1618
Thomas had 5 children with a woman from Angerton. This marriage (prior to 1626) is what got Thomas disowned (save for a mere pittance received in 1632 of a horse and a tithe of Learmouth) ... and it's the reason he moved out of Morpeth to Angerton, Northumberland (and was still there in 1642). Thomas of Angerton had 2 sons: Thomas II of Angerton (d.s.p) who m. the widow of Henry Paston; and Edward of Angerton Mill, who continued the line for another generation and then it collapses. Thomas also had 3 daughters: Elizabeth, Catherine and Anne. All 5 of these kids were living in 1656, when they were mentioned in their aunt's will (Elizabeth Grey of Morpeth, spinster) ... she left them all something.
So when it comes to differentiating Thomas Gray, ancient planter of Virginia from Thomas I Grey of Angerton, we can see that the stark difference in number of their wives, identity of kids, and location of home/country is problematic. It's also the case that Thomas of Angerton appears to have died some time before Thos. the ancient planter of Virginia.[35]

Or a different combination

  • There is a long list of men named Thomas Gray during the era in question (FamilySearch returns 2000+ results in their database).[17] The Gray/Grey branches closer to London -- such as the Greys of Rotherford -- should really be examined, given what appears to be a strong belief that the ancient planter is the same man as the mariner, Thomas Gray of Stepney. Like the branch in Harwich, Essex (who do have relatives who sailed to the colonies), the Greys of Rotherford and Wilton (Herefordshire) were related and seated much closer to London. In addition, some fell out of royal favor around this time, which leaves open the possibility for relatives to venture elsewhere ... such as Thomas Grey, Baron Wilton who was attainted in 1604.[18][35]


2.) Wives of Thomas Gray.

First wife

  • Margaret. Muster shows Thomas came from England with wife Margaret and their 2 young children (see Hotten).

2nd wife Rebecca

  • widow of Daniel Hutton?[citation needed] Daniel has a profile on Wikitree I believe. Maybe there is insight into Rebecca there. Trudy, written on Aug . 31, 2017. Rebecca has been verified as wife of Thomas Gray by head right patents and the will of Thomas Gray. Rebecca is the 2nd wife. Daniel does not have a profile Rebecca does. I attached it . It needs sources and some other info. It is an unattached profile.
  • Rebecca1 (d. bef. 1645) and Thos had a dau. Rebecca Gray2 (b. abt. 1628/30 - d. by 20 May 1655) who married Daniel Hutton ... and had Elizabeth Hutton (d.s.p), wife of Nathaniel Perry. ... BTW, Daniel Hutton left his estate to wife Rebecca Gray2, according to a deposition on 07 March 1653/5 by Thos. Gray Sr., age 60.[35]

3rd wife

Fosters heavily involved with Gray family, John Foster a witness to a Will, William Foster, Guardian, Thomas Foster inherited property, (Col. Buck Jones).
Greer (1912), only lists one woman named "Mary Foster, (p. 118). The line reads:
"Foster, Mary, 1650 by Ralph Green _____ co.".[19][35]

Ship may not be known, but Thomas was certainly in Virginia by 1608.[36] His patent issued on 27 Aug 1635 was for 100 acres due as an Ancient Planter, 50 acres per the adventure of his 1st wife, Anis (Annis), and 50 acres for his now wife, Rebecca Gray and others, including his two sons, William Gray and Thomas Gray (p 31).[36] The same patent was re-issued or renewed on 26 May 1638, his first wife was spelled, Avis Gray (p 105).[36] (Added by Cynthia B on 31 Aug 2017)[37] (Added by Cynthia B on 1 Sep 2017)

In the Muster taken on 30 Jan 1624/5, living at "James Iland" were: Thomas Graye and Margrett his wife, with William their son, age 3 and Jone their daughter age 6.[6] Usually the inhabitant's ship and age were reported, but unfortunately not in the case of Thomas and Margrett. (Added by Cynthia B on 31 Aug 2017)

I wonder whether we might have two generations of Thomas Gray here, one with 1st wife, Avis, and 2nd wife, Rebecca. Second one with wife, Margaret. Then another with wife, Joan? (Edited by Cynthia B on 8 Sep 2017)

I dont think we need to be concerned with Avis Turtley as Thomas Grays wife. We have documentation that she was married to William Carter. Wikitree profile Carter-4290. The timeline is very tight. According to the timeline she couldn't have been Thomas' wife. Written by Trudy 8-31-2017

Also found an interesting record for Joane (Lane) Talliafero, widow of Bartholomew Talliafero. Joane married on 15 May 1602 at St. Olave, Hart St., London, to Thomas Graye.[38] Could this have been the identical Thomas Graye who is sometimes associated with the patents of 27 Aug 1635 and 26 May 1638? (Added by Cynthia B on 31 Aug 2017)

I find this info on Joan interesting. There is time enough for Thomas to have married her before Margaret Annis Valentine. Joan, Jone , Jane was the name of Thomas' first child. 3 years before son William comes along. Thomas and Margaret Annis come from England with the 2 children. Thomas was definitely in Virginia at that time . It is plausible. Would cover all 4 wives. He would not have taken head rights on her if she died in England and was never transported. It sounds really promising. I say go where it takes you. Written by Trudy 8-31-2017.. Removed Avid Turtley as wife of Thomas Gray. Invalid source.

So may I have the thoughts of the other managers please. Please feel free to openly discuss any thoughts. I am more than willing to consider everything.

Sources

Citations

  1. William Armstrong Crozier, ed., Virginia County Records, 11 vols., (1905-13), reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1971), 6:31 (aged about 60 years when he gave a deposition on 7 March 1653); digital image, Internet Archive, (https://archive.org/details/virginiacountyre61croz/page/30/mode/2up : accessed 7 Jan 2022).
  2. McCartney, 2007, p. 339.[1]
  3. 3.0 3.1 b. 1593 (Virginia Historical Genealogies, 2009)
  4. Jamestowne Society: Gray, Thomas - A3204; born 1593/4, died by 1658 Surry Co.: (Ancient Planter); (Muster of 1624/5). accessed 16 January 2021
  5. BIO #2: MERGE 24 Aug 2015: Thomas Gray (b. 1590 - d. before 02 Nov 1658 Surry Co., VA; living at James City, VA1623/4. (GEDCOM -- Ancestry.com citing: AGBI, 1999; England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975; England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973; Filby, P.W. (2006). Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, pp. 228. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Research; Find A Grave Index for Select Locations, 1300s-Current)
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 Hotten, John Camden, (1874) The Original Lists of Persons of Quality; Emigrants; Religious Exiles ... London: Hotten, Archive.org (Pages 176, 228).
  7. see: "Thomas Gray Ancient Planter...1593-1658 who were his parents?" Ancestry.com
  8. Greer, 1921, p. 134.[2]
  9. 9.0 9.1 see also: "Thomas Graye Or Gray and Annes Valentine Or Vallentine, 29 Mar 1611." England Marriages 1538–1973. FamilySearch: accessed 1 Jun 2015): citing Saint Peter Pauls Wharf, London, London,England; FHL microfilm 547,508.[3]
  10. Boddie, 1966; McCartney, 2007
  11. 11.0 11.1 Mrs. Annis Valentine, widow.[4]
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 McCartney, 2007
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Omohundro Institute of Early American History and Culture, 1900
  14. 14.0 14.1 Surname Unknown, (Dorman, 2004).
  15. "'Musters of the inhabitants in Virginia 1624/5," (Hotten, 1874).
  16. 16.0 16.1 Dorman (2004) and McCartney (2007), list Jane/Jone and William as the children of Anis, but Boddie (2009) lists them as Margaret's.
  17. 17.0 17.1 17.2 17.3 17.4 17.5 17.6 17.7 17.8 17.9 Dorman, 2004
  18. 18.0 18.1 Dorman, 2004, p. 199.[5]
  19. Rebecca was a mid-wife (McCartney, 2007).
  20. possbily a woman named "Mary Foster" per Col. Buck Jones. [citation needed]
  21. son of unknown 4th wife, (Dorman, 2004).
  22. 22.0 22.1 22.2 22.3 22.4 22.5 Boddie, 1966
  23. 1608 A.D. Virginia, (Filby, 2006, p. 28)
  24. 24.0 24.1 24.2 Virginia Historical Genealogies, 2009.[6]
  25. Arrived in VA on the 'Starr' in 1608 (Boddie, 1966).
  26. 26.0 26.1 Nugent, 1934
  27. Mariner who brought people from England to Virginia, (Colonel Buck Jones-34912).[citation needed]
  28. Tyler, L.G. (1900). "Jamestown census of 1625," in the Cradle of the Republic : Jamestown and James river, pp. 38. Richmond: W. & Sheppardson. Familysearch.org. eBook.[7]
  29. 1624 James City, VA (Filby, 2006, p. 228)
  30. Recorded Surry BK. 1 pg. 41. Thomas Gray Sr. gave his age as 60.
  31. This citation might be connected to Surry Bk 1, p. 41
  32. Bacon's Rebellion (Boddie, 1966)
  33. Servant Robert Browne, Patented land for the transportation of William Browne.[citation needed]
  34. Virtual Jamestown (muster search results). www.virtualjamestown.org. Web.[8]
  35. 35.0 35.1 35.2 35.3 35.4 Bree Ogle
  36. 36.0 36.1 36.2 Nugent, Nell Marion, (1934) Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1800, 1st ed. Richmond: Dietz Print Co., Archive.org (p. xxviii arrived in 1608, p. 31 patent, p. 105).
  37. Headrights were often filed many years after the actual sailing date of persons listed, per article by Bob, See "What can we assume about the date of importation?" Retrieved 1 Sep 2017.
  38. "The Italian Origins of the Taliaferros," in The Virginia Genealogist, 2003, 46. AmericanAncestors.org NEHGS, 43, p. 253.

Bibliography

  • Boddie, J. B. (1966). Colonial Surrey, (pp.46-47). Genealogical Publishing. Google Books.
  • Boddie, John Bennett. (1954). Virginia Historical Genealogies. (pp. 309-310) Redwood City, CA: Pacific Coast Publishers, HathiTrust.org.
  • Dorman, J.F. (2004). Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1624/5: Families G-P, (pp.1982). Google Books.
  • Greer, G.C. (1912). Early Virginia Immigrants. Hill Printing Co. Google Books.[20]
  • "Gray, Thomas - A3204; born 1593/4, died by 1658 Surry Co.: (Ancient Planter); (Muster of 1624/5)," (2016, April 1). Seventeenth century qualifying ancestors. Jamestowne Society. Web.
  • Hotten, J.C. (1874). The Original Lists of Persons of Quality, Emigrants, Religious Exiles, Political Rebels, Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years, Apprentices, Children Stolen, Maidens Pressed, and Others who Went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700, pp. 176, 228. Chatto and Windus. Google Books.[21][22]
  • McCartney, M.W. (2007). Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers, 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary, (pp.338-339). Google Books.
  • Nugent, N.M. (1934). Cavaliers and pioneers; abstracts of Virginia land patents and grants, 1623-1800, (Vol. 1, pp.xxviii, 31). Richmond, VA: The Dietz Printing Co. archive.org.
  • Omohundro Institute of Early American History and Culture, (1900). The Oldest Brick House. The William and Mary Quarterly 8(3), pp. 151-152. JSTOR. doi: 10.2307/1920195
  • Tyler, L.G. (1900). "Jamestown census of 1625," in the Cradle of the Republic : Jamestown and James river, pp. 38. Richmond: W. & Sheppardson. Familysearch.org. eBook.[23]

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May 9,1659,Surry,Virginia,Mrs. Dorthye Corker, aged 50 years testifiedthat Thomas Gates gave Thomas Gray Sr. ,his Thomas Gray and daughter Jane Gray,50 acres of land on Gray's Creek.

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/344519/?offset=0#page=43&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=

posted by Teresa Davis
I found a Thomas Gray that married Sibill Preston,May 3,1607,Westmorland,Virginia.

https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/158696/?offset=&return=1#page=4&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=

posted by Teresa Davis
I can't seem to edit my previous comment. There is also mention of a wife Annis, and wife Rebecca. Also there was another son, Thomas. Noland 588.
posted by Linda (Noland) Layman
In "Adventurers of Purse and Person" there is a chapter on the Gray family. I only have the first page, which states "Thomas was living in 1623/4 at James City and was listed in the muster, 1624/5 with his wife Margaret, son William, aged 3 years, and daughter Joane, aged 6 years." There is further information. Noland 588
posted by Linda (Noland) Layman
In James City , he patened 550 acres Nov. 6,1635 ,for 5 headrights. Rolf's Creek & references to the time of Sir Thomas Dale.

https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/jame1/moretti-langholtz/chap10a.htm

posted by Teresa Davis
There appears to be a lot of data available at http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fcharper/genealogy/LydiaGray.html

The bottom line is that it would make https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gray-1643 on of his daughters. I would appreciate it if the project would take a look at the information and make a determination.

posted by Robin Lee
The land records are pretty compelling.
posted by Kelly Clarke
I think we should honor it. If there are no objections, we can connect Lydia and just mark her parents uncertain.
posted by [Living Ogle]
For Rebecca Gray, wid. of Daniel Hutton, remarried to Thos. Gray, see Notes above & Comments below. (Rebecca Gray, wife of Dan Hutton, as dau. of Thos. is disputed).
posted by [Living Ogle]
I found this :

March 7,1653,Surry County,Virginia.Disposition of Thomas Gray Sr., age 60 of thereabouts,that Daniel Hutton did bequeath his whole estate to Rebeckah his wife. William Rose,age 30,testified to the same ,March 27,1653. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/344519-surry-county-records-surry-county-virginia-1652-1684?viewer=1&offset=0#page=12&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=

This proves his birth year as 1593.

posted by Teresa Davis
edited by Teresa Davis
Thomas Grey/Gray of Angerton Mill, Morpeth, Northumberland is a direct ancestor of my mother, Anna Gray. He was the son of Sir Edward Gray of Howick and Catherine le Strange. He had at least one son, Edward Grey of Angerton. It's hard to identify the spouses of either, but I'd be very surprised if either ever made it to America. Some hint at Thomas Grey's spouse being called ANNIS (Shelton or Vallantine) and Edward seems to have had a spouse called Elinor
posted by Paul Dent
So I think I've located the will of Thomas Gray of Angerton. It looks like he died around 1618/9.
posted by [Living Ogle]
Did Thos. Gray know Dr. Robert Ellyson of James City co., VA, burgess?

TO DO: review Gray of Newcastle.

John Gray, draper (bur. 1595/6 St. Nicholas, Newcastle, co. Northumb. & wife Marg. had 4 sons (in no particular order):
  1. Cuthbert Gray of Newcastle (d. 24 Apr 1623; will living 19 Apr 1623) m. Eliz. Huntley
  2. Edward, who had a son Thomas ... (both alive on 19 Apr 1623).
  3. William (living 19 Apr 1623)
  4. Oswald (living 19 Apr 1623)
Sons Edw. (w/ his son Thos.), Wm. & Oswald were legatees in the will of their brother Cuthbert Gray of Newcastle.
Cuthbert of Newcastle & wife Eliz. Huntley, had a dau. Elizabeth, who m. Robert Ellison of Newcastle & Hebburn, MP ... whose ancestry traces back to the Merchant Adventurer, Cuthbert Ellyson (b. est. 1509). This Ellison line continued to be Merchant Adventurers, and Rbt. Ellison, MP was the Gov. of the Merchant Company in 1667.
Some antiquarians thought that Dr. Rbt. Ellyson of Virginia (b. est. no later than 1620), was somehow related to Rbt. Ellison, MP (1614-78), whose family had a long history as Merchant Adventurers of Newcastle, co. Northumb. Is it possible that the ancient planter Thomas Gray, was somehow their kin? Could Thomas have been a son of John Gray, the draper (d. 1596), or perhaps a close relative?

NOTE: find citation for family owners of ships (it was either Gray or Ellison of Newcastle).

posted by [Living Ogle]
edited by Bree Ogle
I think a revision is due to better reflect how the men of Jamestown found wives to marry. The women were actually enlisted by the Company to sail to the town and pick a man they would want to marry. The Company would file the marriage license back home in England. So the bio should be updated to reflect better accuracy.

suggested reading:

  • The Mail-Order Brides of Jamestown, Virginia.[1]
  • The Real Wives of Jamestown.[2]
posted by [Living Ogle]
In the search for Margaret 's last name at birth I have found yet another lead in her last name at birth. I found an Ancestry.com listing that she was the daughter of Gov. Thomas Gates and his wife Elizabeth. Gates and Thomas Gray were friends and had dealings together. I can't access Ancestry.com so I can't verify that account. I can how ever verify that Thomas Gates gave the children of Thomas and Margaret Gray , Thomas Gray Jr. and Jone 50 acres of his 100 acre property after he died. Because records were lost there is some disagreement as to whether the Gates had children. I am working this in depth.
posted by Anonymous Roach
Looks good Bree . Thank you. I have long suspected Gray and Carter connections up line from Thomas Gray and William Cater. Funny I found some down line Faith Gray married in to William Carter and William Newsum's family. That makes them related to have of Virginia.
posted by Anonymous Roach
Rebecca Hutton. Widow of Daniel Hutton. Was Thomas Gray 's wife not his child. I had added Thomas's statement about Rebecca's proprietary after her death going to her daughter. I'm putting her back as Gray 's wife.
posted by Anonymous Roach
I've reorganized the profile for better readability and collaboration. The discussion has its own section with sub-headers (which can be added to as necessary).

Example (markdown tags) to add a sub-header under discussion header: use 4 equal signs in front and back of subtitle.

TO DO:

  • rework the first section of the bio ... edit/chop to mix with the new section under marriage, and probably change the introduction to make it all flow.
  • need primary or secondary citations for 3rd/4th wife Margaret Foster.
posted by [Living Ogle]
Thanks for all your hard work, Trudy & Cynthia! I think you both represent different family opinions. Buck told me something very similar to Trudy, and thinks the ancient planter was a mariner who crossed multiple times. And I believe that more than 1 family member thinks Anne is Margaret. Cynthia's documentation is also correct. Older records (Hotten; muster; patents), as well as some newer secondary sources, identify Annis and Margaret as different women. I have never seen proof for any maiden name of the wives, but cousin Judy might have more insight.

Inevitably, conjecture on the planter's parents, orgins, spouses, and profession differ so we can put it in the bio. The disambiguation section points to different people's profiles, such as Thos. of Angerton (son of Edward and Catherine).

posted by [Living Ogle]
I am no longer working this profile. Too many people involved now.
posted by Anonymous Roach
Like I said someone is trying to find the source for me at the Virginia State library that I found on Ancestry that states Gray's first wife is Lady Margaret Annis Vatentine Gray. I have another profile where one of William Carter's wives Alice Croxton's third husband's first wife went by her middle name and it has caused confusion. I have put a lot of work into sorting these wives . I wanted the communication on this to be simple. And yet again the editing has become a nightmare for me. All the symbols an blah , blah , blah I can't navigate. This has all ready been gone over . Margaret , Anis and Annis, and Annie are one woman. The idea was to sort all of this out and rewrite the bio and sources. Not to add more bio and sources with the existing still in tact.
posted by Anonymous Roach