Susan Sarah (Haldane) Duncan (abt. 1610 - abt. 1665)

Born about 1610 in Gleneagles, Perth, Scotland

Ancestors

Wife of William Robert Duncan — married about 29 Aug 1636 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland [uncertain]

Descendants

Died about 1665 at about age 55 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Discrepancy

No original source records have been located to confirm birth or marriage records. It appears that some erroneous information may have been published, and perhaps republished/reported, making the “actual facts” obscure. There is a great deal of conflicting information surrounding William – Many Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of Duncan’s with the same names, etc.. The "oldest source found" for this William was the "transcription of the 1565 Bible"

• Reference to Husband, Rev. William Robert Duncan in the book Shawnee Heritage III by Don Greene^[1]
• Children^[2]

Biography

Susan (Haldane) Duncan is a member of Duncan Clan.

Susan Haldane presumed Daughter of Mary Kennett and Richard Haldane married William Duncan (aka Duncane, Duncanne,) about 1636 in Scotland.

Birth Estimate 1610 Scotland vs 1635

Marriage Estimate 29 Aug 1636 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland - William (Robert) Duncan ^[3]

Death Estimate Unknown - 1665 vs Jan 2 1669 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

No records located showing that Susan was the daughter of Richard Haldane and Mary Kennett.

Unproven

Although no proof that Susan is related, there is 1 entry in Scotland's People for a death of a Richard Haldane at Sterling Castle in 1614. No wife is given.

HALDANE RICHARD 09/04/1614 CONSTABLE OF THE CASTLE OF STIRLING TESTAMENT DATIVE AND INVENTORY STIRLING COMMISSARY COURT CC21/5/1

No marriages shown until 1853. One Richard Haldane
1 13/02/1853 HALDANE RICHARD MARY MAXWELL/FR5815 (FR5815) M BARONY GLASGOW CITY CITY/LANARK 622/00 0210 0121

Mary Kennett

No records found; although 4 listings for Kennedy
1 KENNEDY MARY 08/03/1771 RELICT OF THOMAS SMITH, MERCHANT IN MAYBOLE TESTAMENT TESTAMENTAR AND INVENTORY GLASGOW COMMISSARY COURT CC9/7/67
2 KENNENDY MARY 06/06/1717 LADY, DAUGHTER OF JOHN, EARL OF CASSILLIS TESTAMENT DATIVE AND INVENTORY EDINBURGH COMMISSARY COURT CC8/8/86
3 KENNEDY MARY 12/06/1739 SPOUSE TO NEILL MACEACHARN, SHOEMAKER IN TIGHNAKNOCK, ISLAND OF ISLAY TD THE ISLES COMMISSARY COURT CC12/3/4
4 KENNEDY MARY 29/08/1751 DAUGHTER OF DECEASED MR JOHN K. SOMETIME MINISTER AT PETERCULTER, AND SPOUSE TO MR JOHN ROLLO, SECOND SON OF ROBERT, LORD ROLLO TESTAMENT TESTAMENTAR AND INVENTORY ABERDEEN COMMISSARY COURT CC1/6/32B

Marriage - Susan 1 04/01/1720 HALDEN SUSANNA WILLIAM BURNSIDE/FR658 (FR658) F TRANENT /EAST LOTHIAN 722/00 0030 0411

The Unproven Duncan Story

While entertaining, probably more fiction than fact. The Haldanes were supposed to be from Gleneagles / Stirling; the McMurdo's from Glasgow. Duncan's from Perth, Perthshire (central Scotland). (William, (probable secondary) son in Influential family). Two stories -- some simularity -- both totally unproven.

Fact: The Duncans held land tracts in Virginia before 1725.

The Haldane's

Fact: Susan Haldane was served heiress of her brother, Alexander Haldane, in the lands of Easter Keilor in 1645.

The lands of Wester Keilor came into possession of the Haldanes. On 4th April, 1492, Patrick Haldane gave a charter of the lands of Wester Keilor to his son and apparent heir, Sylvester Haldane. It is dated at Perth. Sylvester Haldane of Keilor was a juror, 29th April, 1514. The Haldanes had retained possession of some part of the lands of Keilor for several generations,

The fact that the Haldanes at one time owned lands in the thanage of Alyth gives colour to the belief that the Haldanes of Keilor may have been an offshoot from the Perthshire family. The Keilor Haldanes were lairds of some importance, and are frequently mentioned in the records, their lands being in the vicinity of Alyth. This family ended with the heiress named Susan about 1645.

The McMurdo Story

Mary Kennett, wife of Richard Haldane and mother of Susan, received her father's portion of a tract of land in Belhaven, Commonwealth of VA,. Susan was given ownership of the Kennett portion of the Virginia land in return for waiving all rights to any of the Haldane land. She passed this land to her son William and went to live with her daughter Mary in a small town on the Clyde which is apparently now incorportated into Helensburgh

Sources

1. ↑ https://books.google.com/books?id=E9EeCAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA253&ots=Bl6rzHrqeC&dq=Susan%20(Haldane)%20Duncan&pg=PA253#v=onepage&q=Susan%20(Haldane)%20Duncan&f=false
2. ↑ https://books.google.com/books?id=E9EeCAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA253&ots=Bl6rzHrqeC&dq=Susan%20(Haldane)%20Duncan&pg=PA253#v=onepage&q=Susan%20(Haldane)%20Duncan&f=false
3. ↑ Bible Transcript

• Richard Haldane forum
• Scotland's People, Index of Wills and Testaments.
• Commersiart of Sterling; (death register) pg 71 v19 1607-1800
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