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John Anderson Hale (abt. 1849 - 1913)

John Anderson Hale
Born about in Jackson, Tennessee, United Statesmap
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Son of and
Brother of , , , , , , , , , and
Husband of — married about 1872 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 64 in Jayton, Kent, Texas, United Statesmap
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Biography

John A. Hale was born about 1847 to George and Elizabeth Hale in Jackson County, Tennessee, where he appears on the 1850 census at three years old.[1] At some point during the next decade he moved with his family, and in 1860 they were living in Osage Township, Carroll County, Akansas.[2]

In 1870 John A Haile, 21, was living in Liberty Township, Carrol Co Arkansas with his mother, Elizabeth, 61, and his sister, Sofina and her husband, Thomas Clark. His father was apparently no longer living. [3]

The 1900 census[4] notes that John and Susana had both been married for 28 years; they would have married about 1872.

The 1880 census[5] shows John, 29, and Susanna,24, living in Comanche, Texas, with the following children, all born in Texas:

It’s likely that the name of this last child, Millie, was changed to, or confused with, another:

  • Nancy Lura Hale, born January 16, 1880 in Comanche, Texas to John Anderson Hale and Susanne Brown[6]

Twenty years later, by the time of the 1900 census, John and Susana’s first five children had all left home. The following children were all born in Texas and living with them in Fisher, Texas:[4]

In 1910 [7] only three children were with John and Susanna:

  • John A Hale, Jr., 17
  • Joseph Hale, 16
  • Barnie S Hale, 10

According to FindAGrave, John died November 10, 1913 at the age of 64 and is buried in Jayton, Kent County, Texas. His birthplace and birthdate on FindAGrave disagrees with the 1850 census and appears to be in error.[8]

Sources

  1. ↑ Ancestry.com, 1850 United States Federal Census (Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.), Ancestry.com, Year: 1850; Census Place: District 17, Jackson, Tennessee; Roll: 885; Page: 221A. Citing John A Hall (Hale), age 3, in the household of George Hall (Hale). https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=8054&h=6273470&indiv=try.
  2. ↑ "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M87T-1QF : 18 March 2020), John A Hale in entry for Geo W Hale, 1860.
  3. ↑ "United States Census, 1870", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNH1-ZSP : 18 March 2020), John A Haile in entry for Elizabeth Haile, 1870
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3G7-K76 : accessed 16 April 2020), John A Hale, Justice Precincts 1 & 3, Fisher, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 167, sheet 11B, family 196, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,635.
  5. ↑ "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFNM-ZQH : 15 July 2017), John A Hale, Precinct 4, Comanche, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district ED 31, sheet 110C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,255,297.
  6. ↑ "Texas, Comanche County Records, 1858-1955," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGNH-9QYT : 8 December 2017), John Anderson Hale in entry for Nancy Lura Hale, 16 Jan 1880; citing Birth, 16 Jan 1880, Comanche, Comanche, Texas, United States, Comanche County Clerk, Texas.
  7. ↑ "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2S9-BL1 : accessed 16 April 2020), John A Hale, Justice Precinct 3, Haskell, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 112, sheet 1B, family 12, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1562; FHL microfilm 1,375,575.
  8. ↑ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124649193/john-anderson-hale

See Also

  • "Texas Deaths, 1890-1976," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSBV-QGS : 13 March 2018), John Hale in entry for Julia Ann Ritchie, 26 Apr 1963; citing certificate number 28213, State Registrar Office, Austin; FHL microfilm 2,117,273.
  • "Texas, Comanche County Records, 1858-1955," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGNH-9T5H : 8 December 2017), John Anderson Hale in entry for Joe Taylor Hale, 28 Oct 1893; citing Birth, 28 Oct 1893, De Leon, Comanche, Texas, United States, Comanche County Clerk, Texas.
  • "Texas, Comanche County Records, 1858-1955," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGNH-9QYT : 8 December 2017), John Anderson Hale in entry for Nancy Lura Hale, 16 Jan 1880; citing Birth, 16 Jan 1880, Comanche, Comanche, Texas, United States, Comanche County Clerk, Texas.
  • "Texas, Comanche County Records, 1858-1955," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGN4-KCHB : 8 December 2017), John Anderson Hale in entry for Mattie Jane Hale, 17 Apr 1890; citing Birth, 17 Apr 1890, Comanche, Comanche, Texas, United States, Comanche County Clerk, Texas.
  • "Texas, Comanche County Records, 1858-1955," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGN4-LQ2Q : 8 December 2017), John Anderson Hale in entry for George Washington Hale, 22 Jun 1876; citing Birth, 22 Jun 1876, Comanche, Comanche, Texas, United States, Comanche County Clerk, Texas.
  • "Texas Deaths and Burials, 1903-1973", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F6YM-YFJ : 13 February 2020), John A. Hale in entry for Thomas Dave Hale, 1949.

Family records of Joseph J. McCarty and wife Mary Eviline (Ogden)McCarty as compiled 1975-2020 by B. L. McCarty/L. Essary.

  • Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 3, Fisher, Texas; Page: 12; Enumeration District: 0167
  • Year: 1910; Census Place: Justice Precinct 3, Haskell, Texas; Roll: T624_1562; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0112; FHL microfilm: 1375575




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Alene Kremer
The birth information on FindaGrave is in error -- John’s date of birth of January 14, 1849 is possible, but questionable, since his place of birth (Missouri) is almost definitely wrong. There is no other source provided, other than the unsourced FindaGrave entry, for the January 14, 1849 date. The 1850 census of Jackson Co., Tennessee, where John is recorded as being three years old, is the closest contemporary document to the event and suggests that his birth year is 1847. On the other hand, the 1860 census for the same family shows his age as 11, and the 1870 census show him as 21, making his birth year 1849. His childrens’ birth records have him with various birth years – up to 1853. The 1900 census has a date of Jan 18, but no year. His date of birth needs to remain uncertain at this point.
posted by Alene Kremer
Weldon Ritchie
In view of:

1840 Census shows GW and family (with ages that match the kids) for Bledsoe Co., TN w/ 1 female under 5 Lucinda @ 3) 1 male under 5 (Luke @ 1) 1 f between 5 & 10 (Poly @ 6) 2 males between 5 & 10 ( William @ 5 & Thomas @ 9) 1 f between 30 & 40 (Elizabeth @ 31) 1 male between 30 & 40 (GW @33) 1 f between 70 & 80 (Elizabeth or G W’s mother) 1? (possibly erased) 1 male between 70 & 80 (father?) 1850 Census shows GW and family including John A (3 years) in District 17, Jackson County, TN. 1860 Census shows George W (Jr), Mary E., James P., John A., and Martha M. all born in TN. Seems to strongly support the TN birth data.

posted on Hale-6610 (merged) by Weldon Ritchie
Alene Kremer
Hale-3350 and Hale-6610 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate
posted on Hale-6610 (merged) by Alene Kremer
Alene Kremer
Hale-3350 and Hale-6610 are not ready to be merged because: Parents' identity conflicting -- see comment on Hale-3350
posted on Hale-6610 (merged) by Alene Kremer
Weldon Ritchie
Following up on my info on Mary Elizabeth Buster, I found marriage recorded in Green county TN for George Hale and Elizabeth Buster on 7/10/1818. That would make George 11 and Elizabeth 9.

I found further records of George marrying Elizabeth Whitson. I have a copy my mother's hand written loose leaf genealogy notebook (one page for each family) that shows George Washington Hale, b 1807, as John Anderson Hale, b Jan 14, 1849, as my G-Grandfather. I found several trees with George W Hale as the father of John A Hale, with some the same siblings (not all had all them, but they had the same birth dates.

posted on Hale-6610 (merged) by Weldon Ritchie
Alene Kremer
According to the Carroll County Arkansas census of 1860 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M87T-1QZ), the George W Hale who is the father of the children listed on his profile, was born in 1807. The "George Hale" marriage to Elizabeth Buster took place in 1818 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNZG-V9M), when our George W. would have been 11 years old. Elizabeth Buster must be rejected as the mother of this John Anderson Hale and wife of our George W. Hale . If there is evidence that Elizabeth Buster had a child named John Anderson Hale this should be shown as a Rejected Match. The merge could take place provided Elizabeth Buster is not shown as the wife of George W. Hale and mother of John.
posted by Alene Kremer
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Weldon Ritchie
Hale-6610 and Hale-3350 appear to represent the same person because: Both born in 1849.

Both had a brother born and 13 Aug 1841 but with different death dates. Both had a father named George W(ashington) born in 1807 in Tenn. Both had a mother named Elizabeth born 6 Jun 1809 in Tenn and both died on 4 Mar 1898. But Hale-6610 shows mother to be Mary Elizabeth Hale formerly Buster. While Hale-3350 shows mother to be Elizabeth Hale formerly Whitson. Is it possible that Elizabeth had previously married and that Buster or Whitson is her birth name and the other is her name after previous marriage?

posted by Weldon Ritchie

Rejected matches › John Henry Hale (abt.1850-abt.1889) › John Hale (1845-1895) › John H. Hale (1848-1883) › John Hyles (abt.1852-1924) › John Henry Hall (1851-) › John J Hale (abt.1849-) › John Hale (-abt.1832) › John Hale (abt.1845-) › John Hoyle (1850-1937) › John Healey (abt.1850-bef.1911)

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