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John Hall Sr. (1586 - 1676)

John Hall Sr.
Born in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Son of [uncertain] and [mother unknown]
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[children unknown]
Died at age 89 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusettsmap
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Disputed Wife

There are no quality sources provided to show that his wife was Pease Farmer; she may not even have existed. See her profile for further information. Also, the marriage location given is almost 200 miles from Pease's supposed birthplace, and almost 150 miles from his birthplace, making this unlikely for the two of them as well. Pease Farmer has been removed as his wife until quality sources are found to support her existence, and their marriage.

Biography

This profile is part of the Hall Name Study.

John Ellis Hall is said to have been born in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, in November 1586. He was the son of Thomas Ellis Hall (1567-1630), of Melton, Suffolk, England; and his wife Margaret (Brooke) Hall (1569-1655).

Correction: there is no proof that Thomas "Ellis" Hall married Margaret Brooke, or that she even existed. She supposedly married both Thomas Ellis, and Thomas Ellis Hall who both supposedly died in 1630.

In 1609, John Ellis Hall married Pease Farmer, b. 1590-1619, from Coventry, Warwickshire.[1]

Pease was the daughter of Sir John Farmer of Ansley, Warwickshire, and his wife, Isabella (Barbage) Farmer. Sir John was given a title during the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. He was born ca. 1565 in Ansley and he died before 1600. His parents were Bartholomew Farmer, b. 1542 in Radcliffe, Lancashire, and d. December 22, 1564, in England, and his wife Ursala (Mattes) Farmer, b. 1549 in Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire, and d. 1609, in England.[2]

John E. and Pease (Farmer) Hall had four sons, all born in England, before she died in Ashburton, Devonshire, England, on May 21, 1619, shortly after giving birth to her youngest son: Ralph Hall. Their descendant and family historian states that he presumes John Ellis Hall emigrated to America sometime after the death of his wife. Other sources say that John Hall and 3 of his sons (the 4th may have died in England) were passengers on the "James" in 1633.[3]

The following are listed as the 3 sons of John & Pease Hall that emigrated to Massachusetts on the "James," landing in October 1633:

  1. Nathaniel, 1613 (or 1610) - 1679
  2. John Jr. (Deacon), 1617 - 1696
  3. Ralph, May 3, 1619 - 1701 (His mother, died May 21, 1619)

John Hall and his 3 sons are said to have settled first at Yarmouth, Mass.; nothing is known of John Sr.'s activities there. His son Nathaniel married a Mary Wilcox in Massachusetts. His son John founded the church in Charleston, Mass., where he was Deacon; he married Elizabeth Learned in 1642 and moved to Dover, NH and had several children. Ralph Hall became a Lieutenant in the Massachusetts militia, married a local woman named Mary (Unknown) and lived near his brother John in Dover NH.

John Ellis Hall's descendant, Michael Davis, states that he died March 23, 1676, in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts.[4]

Sources

  1. "From Whence I Came...," by Michael Davis. A Google Book, pp. 72-75. Note: there are many typos in the dates assigned in this book and I question that John E. Hall was born in Gloucestershire while his parents lived and died in Suffolk, on the opposite side of England. Added by Chet Snow, April 24, 2015. See also Pease Farmer Hall for details.
  2. See note 1 above.
  3. See note above, pg. 73. Note: The "James" was a small (50 passengers)ship that traveled between London and Massachusetts in the 1630s but no passenger lists for 1633 have been located: added by Chet Snow.
  4. See note 1, pg. 73.

See also:

  • John Hall of Coventry on Geni.com. Some say that this "John Hall" was not the same person as "John Ellis Hall" but I believe they were and mistakes in dating etc. are responsible for discrepancies.




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Removing Margaret Brooks-157 as his mother. The "father" Thomas Ellis Hall-2381 is almost certainly nonexistent, he was shown as a husband of Margaret at the same time as Thomas Ellis-1320.
posted by Brad Stauf
Middle names in this era and geography were rare-to-nonexistent. What support for "Ellis" as middle names for both him and his father?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Hall-5886 and Hall-1618 are not ready to be merged because: Do not appear to be same person
posted by John Putnam
Hall-5886 and Hall-1618 appear to represent the same person because: I think these are the same person but the info on Sr is messed up. He got married before he was born. Please look at these profiles and see if they can be straightened out. good luck.
posted by Sue (Weil) Smith

Rejected matches › John Hull (1603-bef.1669)