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Hans Janszen van Noordstrant (abt. 1603 - bef. 1690)

Hans Janszen "Hans Jensen" van Noordstrant aka van Nostrand, Hansen, Noorman
Born about in Noordstraat Island, Schleswig Holstein, Denmarkmap
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Husband of — married about 1628 in Nordstrand, Duchy of Holsteinmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married 29 Nov 1652 in New Amsterdammap
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Died before before about age 87 in Kingston, Ulster County, New York colonymap
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Biography

Hans Jansen van Nostrand (or van Noorstrant) was born about 1603, on Noordstraat Island, Schleswig Holstein, Denmark, the son of Jan. He emigrated to Utrecht, Netherlands and married Rymerigh Volkert and they had four children together between 1626 and 1641. In about 1639, the family emigrated to New Netherlands (Kingston, Ulster, New York), where Rymerigh died before May 1643. Hans then married Jannecken Gerritse Van Loon on 29 November, 1652 and they had six children together between 1653 and 1679.

He made his will on 20 August 1679; it was proved on 1 April 1690.[1]

" Hans <Jan> Van Nostrand (Rn=195), who was born about 1603 at Noordstrant Island, Schleswig Holstein, Denmark and died about August 1679 at Flatbush, Kings County, New York at 76 years of age. He married first, about 1628 at Netherland Reymerigh <?> Volkert Van Nostrand (Rn=71163) and died before 23 May 1644 and married second, 29 November 1652 at Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam Jannetje <Gerrit> Van Loon Van Nostrand (Rn=33356). Religion 1 - Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam. Occupation 1 - Farmer. First Residence - Noordstraat Island, Schleswig Holstein, Denmark. Second Residence - Flatbush, New Netherland in 1639. Third Residence - New Lots, New Netherland. Fourth Residence - Brooklyn, Kings County, New York in 1678. Fifth Residence - Flatbush, Kings County, New York in 1679. Emigration - Emigrant in 1639 from Noordstraat Island, Schleswig Holstein, Denmark to Flatbush, New Netherland with wife and children. Will - His will was dated 20 August 1679 and proved 1 April 1690." [2]

Children

Children of Hans <Jan> Van Nostrand and Reymerigh <?> Volkert:
  1. Marritje <Hans> Van Nostrand Westvaal/Stoutenburgh was born August 1626 and baptized at the Lutheran Church in Amsterdam. Marritje Van Nostrand was apprenticed to Philip Gerritsen in 1644 for three years. She married Juriaen <Nicholas> Westvaal in 1650 (six children) and Jacob <Jan> Stoutenburgh after 1667. She died in Kingston, Ulster, New York.
  2. Jan <Hans> Hansen was born May 1633, baptized at the Lutheran Church in Amsterdam and married Marritje <?> ? Hansen (six children). After living in New York, he moved to Reeden Island, Delaware, where he was a three-eighths owner in 1694. He died before March 8, 1705.
  3. Simon <Hans> Hansen was born May 1638 and died after 1698. He was baptized in the Lutheran Church in Amsterdam, emigrated with his family to New Netherlands and married Maria <Frederick> Lubbertsen Rapalje/Hansen (nine children).
  4. Reymerigh <Hans> Van Nostrand, baptized December 1641 at Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam.
Children of Hans <Jan> Van Nostrand and Jannetje <Gerrit> Van Loon:
  1. Catalyntje <Hans> Van Nostrand Voorhees (Rn=4632) was born November 1653 and baptized at the Dutch Reformed Church, New Amsterdam and died before 28 Jan 1639. She married Lucas <Steven> Voorhees (six children).
  2. Volkert <Hans> Van Nostrand was born about 1656 and died before May 16, 1698. He married Sarah <Albert> Terhune Van Nostrand (five children).
  3. Gerrit <Hans> Van Nostrand (Rn=4631) was born about 1655 and died before 22 February, 1742 in Flatbush, Kings, New York. He was a farmer and married Jannetje <Remmelt> Vanderbeeck Van Nostrand (11 children).
  4. Pieter <Hans> Van Nostrand was born about 1666 and died before May 1692 at at sea, near Barbadoes at 26 years of age.
  5. Johannes <Hans> Van Nostrand was born about 1670, died after 1709 and married Willemtje <Hendrick> Boerum Van Nostrand (five children).[3]

Will

Will of Hans Jansen Van Noorstrant of Amesffort. Date Aug. 20 1679. Estate to two sonnes Gerrit Hanssen and Pieter Hanssen. Son Volkert Hanssen. To youngest sunn Jan Hanssen suit of clothes, also 300 gildens. Mentions children by his "laste wife." Executors not named. Witnesses: Hendrick Assuerus, Jacob Strycker, Roelof Martens. Proved April 1, 1690. (Recorded in Liber 1 of Conveyances, p. 233)

Page 341.-- Hans Johnson van Neuerstrait. "In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. This 20 day of August in the year 1679...Hans John van Nevestrait, in Holland, being sound in body, but uncertain of his dying day." [4]

Church Records

Children's baptisms
  1. 1626. 15 August. (poss.) kind: Marija. kerk: Evangelisch Luthers: boek 139; vader: Hans Jansen; [5][6]
  2. 1638. 16 May. (poss.) kind: Sijmen. kerk: Evangelisch Luthers: boek 140; vader: Hans Jansen; [7][8]
According to the NYGBR article "Reymerigh - An Unusual Given Name Ties Together the Norstrand Family" in volume 139, via the Brouwer Genealogy Database, Hans' son Jan was possibly baptized in the same church as the above children, but the record referenced a baptism belonging to a different father.
  1. 1640 22 July. Anneken, Hans Noorman. Wit.: d'Hr. Willem Kieft, Teuntje Jeurgien.
  2. 1641 08 December. Rammetje, Hans Janszen, Van Noortstrant. Wit.: Laurens Pietersz. Noorman, Janneken Molyn, Styntje Jans. [9]
Marriage
  • 1652 Hans Janszen Van Noordstrant, en Janneken Gerrits Van Loon op't Sandt in de Mayerye Van den Bosch. [10][11]
Children's baptisms
  1. 1653 30 Nov Catalyn, Hans Hanszen. Wit.: Aert Willemszen, en zyn huis vrouw. [9]

Research Notes

Alternate List of Children

Note: presumably this list is from Stoutenburgh's renowned book on Oyster Bay, but it was forwarded to me by John Van Norstrand, Jan 2001: Mix-216 20:35, 26 July 2014 (EDT)

Issue (by first wife):
  1. Jan Hansen, m. Marretje____?
  2. Volkert Hansen, m. Sarah Albertse Terhune.
  3. Symon Hansen, m. Maria Fredericks.
  4. Marritjen Hansen, m. Jurian Westphalen of Kingston; m. Jacob Jansen.
  5. Rammetje Hansen, bp. Dec. 8, 1641, N. Y.
(By second wife):
  1. Catelyntje Hansen, bp. Nov. 30, 1653; m. Lucas Stevense Van Voorhis (first wife).
  2. Garret Hansen, m. Jannetye Remsen.
  3. Peter Hansen, not m. (see).
  4. Jan Hansen, m. Willemtje Van Boxum.
  5. Jannetje Hansen (doubtful), m. Pieter Schenck of N. J. The name of Jannetie Noorstrant appears among list dated Apl. 5, 1734, of owners of salt meadow in Flatbush.

Sources

  1. ↑ Hatcher, Patricia Law, Henry B. Hoff and Robert W. Hull, "Reymerigh - An Unusual Given Name Ties Together the Norstrand Family", New York Genealogical and Biographical Record Vol.139, page 32 (Jan 2008): 139:35.
  2. ↑ Excerpt From "Early New Netherlands Settlers
  3. ↑ Early New Netherlands Settlers website (see sources)
  4. ↑ Pelletreau, Abstracts of Wills
  5. ↑ "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-31163-993-1?cc=2037985 : 21 August 2014), Evangelisch Luthers > Amsterdam > Dopen 1590-1641 > image 279 of 654; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague). left page, ninth entry
  6. ↑ OpenArch Stadsarchief Amsterdam (Netherlands) - Church records baptisms DTB 139, p.180, Amsterdam, archive NL-SAA-908218
  7. ↑ "Netherlands, Noord-Holland Province, Church Records, 1523-1948," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-31162-25253-74?cc=2037985 : 21 August 2014), Evangelisch Luthers > Amsterdam > Dopen 1590-1641 > image 556 of 654; Nederlands Rijksarchiefdienst, Den Haag (Netherlands National Archives, The Hague). left page, sixth entry
  8. ↑ OpenArch Stadsarchief Amsterdam (Netherlands) - Church records baptisms DTB 140, p.284, Amsterdam, archive NL-SAA-908219
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 Thomas Grier Evans. "Baptisms from 1639 to 1730 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York." In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. II. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  10. ↑ Samuel S. Purple. "Marriages from 1639 to 1801 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York" In Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. I. New York: Printed for the Society, 1890.
  11. ↑ Olive Tree genealogy New Amsterdam (New York City) Reformed Dutch Church Marriages 1652 Contributor Liz DuBois
  • Evjen, John O. Scandinavian Immigrants in New York, 1630-1674: With Appendices on Scandinavians in Mexico and South America, 1532-1640, Scandinavians in Canada, 1619-1620, Some Scandinavians in New York in the Eighteenth Century, German Immigrants in New York, 1630-1674. 1916. Print. p. 217.
  • Chester, Chris. "The Brouwer Genealogy Database".Hans Janszen
  • Clarke, Robert Gordon. Early New Netherlands Settlers, online database, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rclarke/ citing:
    • Source [The Ancestors and Descendants of Frederick Van Norstrand and Elizabeth Harris by Jacqueline Van Nostrand 1995 929.273 V338vj page 114]
    • Source [Record: October 1971 page 220]
    • Source [Record: January 2008 page 35]
    • Source [William Adriaense Bennett by Kenneth A Bennett 1998 page 163]
    • Source [Jacob Milton Bergen Senior by William S Bergen 1995 page D 145]
  • Kings County New York Wills, p. 231, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. New York, NY: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1870-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011.)
  • Ancestry Family Trees, Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
  • New York City Marriages, 1600s-1800s, on microfilm at Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, Source: The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (quarterly), 1875, selected extracts, Publisher: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, New York, NY
  • New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (quarterly-1901) - Extracts; New York: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society; Page Number: 211, Repository: Ancestry.com.
  • Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, by Gale Research, Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2006, Ancestry.com.
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900, Yates Publishing, Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004, Provo, UT, USA
  • Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014, Provo, UT, USA
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Gerard-337 Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Van Noorstrand-8 and Van Noordstrant-1 do not represent the same person because: Attached mother was born in 1632 so there are issues with this profile. Van Noordstrant-1 has the mother attached as the spouse so these can't be duplicates.
posted by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Gerard-337 Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Issues with descendants

Hans Van Noordstrand

posted by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Gerard-337 Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Returned dates that were originally in the NNS protected profile.
posted by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
Gerard-337 Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
The merge previously done has some issues. The father has a birth date of 1575. One profile had completely different birth and death dates.

Dates before the merge. Birth date 1613-00-00 & Death Date 1690-04-01

posted by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
edited by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
John Benson
Van Noordstrant-1 and Van Noortstrand-1 appear to represent the same person because: I believe these are the same, I show the same wife.
posted on Van Noortstrand-1 (merged) by John Benson
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Van Nostrand-17 and Van Noorstrant-2 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. I had previously listed the son Symon in the bio, and he is now included in this match, so this will complete one more of the puzzle pieces. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
Van Noorsdrant-2 and Van Noorstrant-2 appear to represent the same person because: Same person. Van_Noorstrant-2 is the lowest-numbered profile for the preferred LNAB, and it's PPP.
posted by Ellen Smith
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Hanson-1781 and Van Noorstrant-2 appear to represent the same person because: This is the common paternal ancestor, father of the common daughter in this line, and he can now be merged into the established NNS PPP profile. No tree conflicts. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hansen-1461 and Van Noorstrant-2 appear to represent the same person because: they were in an unmerged match & the New Netherland Settlers Approval System (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:New_Netherland_Settlers_-_Approval_System) now has them marked "Green" (NNS Category) and "Orange" (Merge Pending), indicating that the two are ready to be merged. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Van Nostrand-113 and Van Noorstrant-2 appear to represent the same person because: they were in an unmerged match & the New Netherland Settlers Approval System (http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:New_Netherland_Settlers_-_Approval_System) now has them marked "Green" (NNS Category) and "Orange" (Merge Pending), indicating that the two are ready to be merged. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Mix-216 Steven Mix
I think Hans is a match on the van Norstrand line below, but after a bit of a merge mess, it needs to be studied and documented a bit first.

Here is what I found in my desktop database so far, that we can add. Hans had two, maybe three wives. These are notes from researcher John Van Norstrand, Jan 2001:

Hans marries Jannecken Van Loon in 1642 as mentioned in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record Vol. 6, 1875, the Marriage Book and Register of the Reformed Dutch Church of the City of New York.

Actually I think that is a typo by John, and he meant 1652, because I show him and others instead citing the date NOV. 29, 1652. So that record needs to be checked.

I added the list of children to the bio here, and after studying it, I am now clear that this is a matching profile, so I am going to set an Unmerged Match for now. The daughter attaached here is Catatlyntje, born 1653, and the van Loon mother attached here is the second wife, married 1652. So that part fits, as does the older children by the first wife on the matching profile.

I am next going to look at the father Jan, and it looks like we will need a new profile to be created for Hans' brother Jacob. But that will be later.

I will next attach the father Jan to this Hans so that it will be easier to click on the descendant tree to see how the whole family lays out.

posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
I see from the G2G discussion that this proifle was the result of perhaps some bad merges, and probably some bad original data.

From what has survived in the bio, his name has to be Hans. His children fit in the tree timeline, and they both have the patronymic Hansen, which supports his name as Hans as well.

But it appears that people who do not understand patronymics originally imported Hans as Hansen LNAB, like his children, assuming it to be a surname. That is completely wrong for Hans, of course.

Hans has a Jansen patronymic that has survived the merging, and that works best for a LNAB here, as his father was Jan.

I think I know who the father Jan is, but I need to study this a bit more before I go on.

Just for point of comparison, I believe that the match for Hans is this profile:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Noorstrant-2

But don't try to merge it yet, because I am still trying to unwind this.

Here is what I found in my desktop database so far, that we can add. Hans had two, maybe three wives. These are notes from researcher John Van Norstrand, Jan 2001:

Hans marries Jannecken Van Loon in 1642 as mentioned in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record Vol. 6, 1875, the Marriage Book and Register of the Reformed Dutch Church of the City of New York.

Actually I think that is a typo by John, and he meant 1652, because I show him and others instead citing the date NOV. 29, 1652. So that record needs to be checked.

I think the origin of the name "Seymen" here comes from a son of Hans: as John says,

"Hans was also present at the wedding of his son, Symon to the widower Maria Frederickx on 10/14/1663 in the Brooklyn Dutch Reformed Church. He is listed by the name of Hans Hansse. Han's will proved in 1690 only mentions Pieter, Garret, Volkert and Jan. It did mention that Jan was the youngest. Volkert's will does mention Simon as a brother and he must have fallen out of favor with his father."

I added the list of children to the other bio, and after studying it, it does look like we have a match. He was indeed known also as Hans Hansen, so perhaps it's a Danish language translation issue, Jan = Han? The death date of 1663 here is wrong, he died Bef. April 1, 1690. So I am still trying to locate the orign of the 1663 date. I set an Unmerged Match, and I am next going to look at what to do with the father Jan. Probably tomorrow.

posted by Steven Mix
Mix-216 Steven Mix
See these other main New Netherland van Noorstrant lines:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Noorstrant-4

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Van_Norstrand-1

Although it is likely that they merely come from the same island of the name, and not closely related.

posted by Steven Mix
Gerard-337 Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
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posted by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley

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