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John Harding (abt. 1605 - bef. 1682)

John Harding
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married 1633 in Englandmap
Husband of — married 22 Apr 1652 in Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 77 in Weymouth, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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Contents

Biography

This is the profile for John Harding who appears in Weymouth records in 1641-1651, Gloucester records in 1652-1655, and Weymouth records again in 1656-1682.

Parentage

John's parentage is unknown. Several different theories have been proposed, but they have all either been disproven or found to be not supported by any reliable evidence.

Not the Son of John Harding of Boreham, Sussex

As discussed in George E. McCracken's 1958 TAG article “John Harding of Boreham, Sussex,” John Harding of Boreham, Sussex was the father of early New England immigrants Capt. Robert Harding of Boston and Rhode Island, Ann/Hannah (Harding) Buttolph of Boston, Abraham Harding of Boston, Braintree and Medfield, and Elizabeth (Harding) Bridgham of Boston.[1] However, although John Harding of Boreham had two sons named John, the first was buried at Boreham in April 1625 and the second was buried in Boreham in 1630.[2] It is therefore implausible that this profile's John Harding was the son of John Harding of Boreham.

Not the Son of John Harding of Northampton, Northamptonshire

Wilbur J. Harding, in his 1925 Hardings in America, claimed: (1) There was a John Harding, son of a John Harding of Northampton, England, who was one of three brothers who immigrated with Robert Gorges in 1623. (2) The list of passengers accompanying Robert Gorges including the names of John Harding, his wife and sons, John (then aged 8) and Abraham (then aged 5). (3) John and his family first settled at Wessagusett (now Weymouth) with the rest of the Gorges party. (4) John later moved to Gloucester, where he sold land to Frances Jones in 1635 and purchased land from Abadiah and Susan Mason in 1636. (5) John was chosen as a Selectman of Gloucester in 1637. (6) John returned to Weymouth in 1640, where he took the freedman's oath and drew land in Braintree. (7) Abraham Harding later moved onto his father's lands in Braintree. (8) John continued to live in Weymouth until is death in 1650. (9) On October 8, 1650 administration of his estate was granted to sons John and Abraham and his property was later inventoried and appraised at £146:15:08. (10) His property was divided equally between his two sons, who were responsible for a dowery of £25 to his daughters Sarah and May when they wed. (11) John's widow died in 1656.[3] As discussed, however, in Hardings in America Debunked, the John Harding of Weymouth described by Wilbur J. Harding appears to be a complete fabrication, no reliable evidence has been found for almost all of his factual assertions regarding him, and there is no reliable evidence that any sons of John Harding of Northampton, England immigrated to New England.

Not the Son of Richard Harding/Hardier of Braintree

Abner Morse in his 1864 Several Ancient Puritans. Vol. IV claimed that this profile's John Harding of Weymouth, Gloucester and Weymouth was the son of Richard Hardier of Braintree.[4] That claim was adopted and embellished by Wilbur J. Harding in Hardings in America.[3] Richard Hardier died in 1657, leaving a will in which he made a bequest to "John Hardier, or to his daughter Mary."[5] As Abner Morse and Wilbur J. Harding appear to have been aware, John Harding's estate records establish that his only child married John Whitmarsh.[6] Since the daughter of the John Hardier mentioned in Richard Hardier's will was named Mary, in order for this profile's John Harding to have been the John Hardier mentioned in Richard Hardier's will, John Whitmarsh would have to have married a woman named Mary, which is what Abner Morse[4] and Wilbur J. Harding[3] claimed. However, Weymouth birth records for John Whitmarsh's children born in 1655-1676 clearly establish that John Whitmarsh's wife was named Sarah,[7] which means that this profile's John Harding could not have been the John Hardier mentioned in Richard Hardier's will. There is thus no reason to believe that this profile's John Harding was the son of Richard Hardier of Braintree.

Possible Son of Widow Harding of Weymouth

There is a 1647 Weymouth town record in which the town hogward was ordered to levy on Edward Pool for the great inconvenience caused to "Widow Harding" by allowing five lengths of fence to remain down.[8] Since there is no other known Widow Harding that this record could have related to, it is reasonably likely that this record related to the mother of this profile's John Harding, who may have immigrated with him. No further record of "Widow Harding" has been found.

Date and Place of Birth

John's date and place of birth are uncertain. Based on his daughter Sarah's estimated date of birth of about 1635, John was probably born sometime in 1595-1610. This date range is consistant with the fact that all of the other men who were on the town of Weymouth governing board with John in 1641 were born in 1596-1608 (Edward Bates (1606), Thomas Richards (1596), William Torrey (1608) and John Upham (1599).[9] A reasonable round-number estimate for John's date of birth is therefore about 1605. Wilbur J. Harding, in his Hardings in America stated that John was born in 1620.[3] However, like many of the claimed facts in Hardings in America that date is implausible given his daughter's estimated date of birth and the fact that John was on the governing body of Weymouth in 1641.

Based on John's estimated date of birth, John was very probably born somewhere in England.

First Marriage and Children

The identity of John's first wife is unknown and their date and place of marriage are uncertain. Based on their daughter's estimated date of birth of about 1635, they were probably married sometime in 1630-1635. Since, as discussed below, John probably did not immigrate to New England prior to 1639, they were probably married in England.

John and his first wife had the following child:

  1. Sarah, b. about 1635 in England, m. about 1652 John Whitmarsh probably in Weymouth, Massachusetts, d. before May 22, 1695 in Weymouth, Massachusetts. (See discussion and sources in Sarah's profile.)

There is no evidence that John had any other children. Since John's estate records refer to John Whitmarsh's wife as John Harding's only child,[6] it is certain that daughter Sarah was John Harding's only surviving child at the time of his death.

The date and place of death of John's first wife is unknown. Since there is no evidence of her having been in New England, she may well have died before John and his daughter Sarah immigrated. She certainly died sometime before April 1652 when John married his second wife, "Widdow Tibbit".[10]

Immigration

John's date of immigration is uncertain. The first record that definitely relates to John is the record of a Weymouth town meeting in December 1641. There is, however, a record of a John Harding being made a freeman of the Massachusetts Bay Colony on May 13, 1640.[11][12][13] It is generally believed (and seems probable) that that record relates to this profile's John Harding.[14][15] Based on the assumption that that May 1640 record does relate to this profile's John Harding, it is probable that he immigrated in 1639 or perhaps slightly earlier.

Early Residency in Weymouth

John first appears in New England records as a mature adult living in Weymouth in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. In 1641, he was one of five men who were part of the town's governing board. A listing of the lands held by various Wymouth townsmen made about 1643 showed that John held three different parcels, totalling 12 acres, 10 of which he had apparently purchased from John Whitmarsh (father of his future son-in-law) and 2 from Thomas Holbrooke. In February 1651/2 John was listed among the men who received a lot in a Weymouth division of land on the east side of Great Pond.[16]

Same Person as John Harding of Gloucester

John removed from Weymouth to Gloucester, Massachusetts in 1652, before returning to Weymouth in 1656. Some older secondary sources were either not aware of John's presence in Gloucester or were not sure that John Harind of Weymouth and John Harding of Gloucester were the same person. Savage, in his 1860 Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England, mentions John Harding of Weymouth (whom he thought may have been the man who became a freeman in May 1640), but did not mention him every being in Gloucester and did not mention a separate John Harding of Gloucester.[17] Babson, in his respected 1860 History of the Town of Gloucester, stated that John Hardin of Gloucester was "said to be of Weymouth."[18] Abner Morse, in his 1864 Several Ancient Puritans, cited Babson and stated that John Harding of Weymouth removed to Gloucester by 1652 before returning to Weymouth by 1665.[4] Pope, in his 1900 Pioneers of Massachusetts, however, did not adopt (or was not aware of) Babson's suggestion and provided separate entries for a John Harding of Salem/Gloucester (whom he said was the man who became a freeman in May 1640) and John Harding of Weymouth.[19] Chamberlain, in his profile for John in the 1923 Volume 4 of History of Weymouth, cited Babson and included Babson's facts regarding John Harding in Gloucester, but seemed to suggest an inconsistency between Babson's statement that John Harding was a selectman in Gloucester in 1664 and yet was granted land in Weymouth in 1663.[15]

The assertion that John Harding of Weymouth and John Harding of Gloucester were the same man and that John removed from Weymouth to Gloucester for a period of time in the 1650s before returning to Weymouth is supported by the following arguments/evidence:

  • There is a gap in between February 1651/2 and December 1656 in records for John Harding of Weymouth, while the records of John Harding of Gloucester start abruptly in April 1652 and end in May 1655 (except for a few records relating to continued land ownership in Gloucester).[16]
  • The apparent inconsistency noted by Chamberlain between Babson's statement in his profile for John Harding that John was a selectman there in 1664[18] and that fact that John Harding of Weymouth received land there in 1663,[20][21] appears to be due to a typographical error in Babson's book. As accurately described by Babson in a footnote on page of History of Gloucester, the Gloucester town records are incomplete, with many gaps until 1698.[22] As shown by Babson in his appendix listing the Gloucester town selectmen for each year, there is a record showing that Christopher Avery, John Hardin, Robert Elwell, Richard Window and Samuel Dolliver were Gloucester town selectmen in 1654,[23][24] but there are no records that establish the identities of the Gloucester town selectmen in 1661-1667.[24] The statement in the profile for John Harding of Gloucester that he was a Gloucester town selectman in 1664 was therefore almost certainly a typo and should have said 1654.
  • It appears that John was one of several men who removed from Weymouth to Gloucester and then left Gloucester in the mid-1650s. Rev. William Perkins moved from Weymouth to Gloucester in 1650 and then moved from Gloucester to Topsfield in 1655,[25][26] while Robert Tucker moved from Gloucester to Weymouth in 1651and then, like John Harding, returned to Gloucester in 1556-7.[27][28]
  • The same William Perkins and Robert Tucker witnessed the June 1651 will of Walter Tibbot.[29] The fact that Perkins and Tucker were apparently in Gloucester before John Harding and were close to Walter Tybbot, suggests that they played matchmaker convinced John to move to Gloucester to marry Walter's widow.
  • As discussed below, John Harding of Gloucester married Walter Tibbot's widow in 1652. Walter Tibbot had a grandson named Richard Dicke/Dike, who lived in Gloucester.[30] There is a 1668 deed by John Hardain of Waymouth to Richard Dicke of four acres of upland in Gloucester,[31] and a 1669 deed by Richard Dike of Glocester of land that Dike bought of his "grandfather Harden of Waymouth."[32] These deeds establish that the John Harding who was back in Weymouth in the 1660's was the same John Harding who married "Widdow Tibbit" in Gloucester in 1652.

Second Marriage; Residency in Gloucester

The first record of John in Gloucester is his marriage to Walter Tibbot's widow on April 22, 1652.[33][10] In the marriage record, Walter's widow is referred to only as "Widdow Tibbit." As discussed in Walter Tibbot's profile, although a number of secondary sources (and Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700[34] and many family trees in reliance thereon) show that Walter Tibbot's wife's name was Mary, more recent research has shown that, instead, Walter was married to two women, neither named Mary: Agnes (last name unknown), who was buried in Bristol, England in March 1630, and Jone Hill, who Walter married in Bristol in May 1630. Since there is no evidence of Jone's death or any marriage by Walter Tibbot subsequent to his marriage to Jone, his widow who John Harding married was probably Jone (Hill) Tibbot.

Since Walter Tibbot's will gave his widow the right to his house and lands in Gloucester during her lifetime,[29] John acquired her right to the house and lands during her lifetime when he married her. In June 1652, a few months after his marriage, John purchased 4 acres of additional land on the north side of "John Harden's which was formerly Walter Tibbitts" and an additional 3 acres of salt marsh.[35] The fact that a 1659 deed refers to land "that had been given to Walter Tibbatt now in the possession of John Hardinge"[36] means that Jone was still alive as of that date. However, the fact that she was not mentioned in John's estate records and the fact that no right to land in Gloucester is mentioned in John's inventory,[6] probably means that she predeceased him and that Walter Tybbitt's land in Gloucester had sometime earlier reverted to Walter's grandson Richard Dick per the terms of Walter's will.[29]

As one would expect for a man who had been a selectman at Weymouth, John was quickly involved in civic matters after moving to Gloucester. In November 1652 and June 1653 he served on grand juries at Essex County courts in Salem. In 1654, John was chosen as one of the selectman of Gloucester. In Essex County court records in March 1654 and May 1655, John Harding and Robert Tucker were referred to as "commissioners" of Gloucester.[16]

The Essex County court record from May 1655 is the last record indicating that John was living in Gloucester. Several later records, however, show that John continued to hold land in Gloucester well after he moved back to Weymouth. A January 1657 deed of land in Gloucester described the land as opening upon John Hardings marsh on the southeast, and a June 1659 deed of land in Gloucester described the land as adjoining 10 acres "that had been given to Walter Tibbatt now in the possession of John Hardinge." The last Gloucester record of any sort that has been found relating to John Harding is a March 7, 1667/8 deed in which John Hardain of Waymouth deeded to [step-son] Richard Dicke four ackers of upland.[16]

Later Residency in Weymouth

John appears to have returned to Weymouth by November 24, 1656, as at a Weymouth town meeting on that date he was elected as one of the Weymouth town selectman for the following year. In December 1658, John was one of ten men granted additional land by the town of Weymouth. John was also allocated a lot of land in the first and second divisions by the town of Weymouth in late 1663. The last record found for John prior to his death is his inclusion in a list of persons in Weymouth who took the oath of allegiance in 1678-9.[16]

Occupation

Abner Morse, in his 1864 Several Ancient Puritans, stated that John "seems to have been a mariner, engaged in the fisheries."[4] Wilbur J. Harding, in his 1925 Hardings in America (which relied extensively on Morse's work), stated that, when John removed to Gloucester, he "engaged in the fisheries."[3] No evidence has been found, however, that supports those assertions. The only evidence whatsoever that has been found that suggests what John's occupation was is (1) a Weymouth town record in which the town ordered that John Harding be paid 4s for making a staple for the pound, hooks and hinges for the meeting house and work about the pound[37] and (2) the inventory of John's estate, which included a barn, pasture land, 3 cows, 5 sheep and 2 lambs, and some lumber.[6] The presence of livestock in John's inventory suggests that, like many early colonists, John engaged in some farming and husbandry, but does not suggest that that was his primary occupation, at least in his younger years. The payment by the town of Weymouth for John's "making a staple for the pound, hooks and hinges for the meeting house and work about the pound" and having lumber is his inventory, however, seems more significant and suggests that John may have been a "wright" or builder of some sort, perhaps a housewright like his son-in-law John Whitmarsh.[38]

Death; Estate

John died intestate sometime shortly before October 2, 1682 when the inventory of his estate was appraised by John Holbrooke, Samuel White and Stephen French.[39]

The inventory of John's estate totalled £167:06:00 and included his dwelling house, barne and adjoining land (£60), pasture land and swamp land (£30), 1 and 1/2 acres of salt meadow on the Back River (£13), 12 acres of land in ragged plain (£12), 1 acre of salt meadow at Buring Island (£10), 3 cows, 5 sheep and 2 lambs (£9), furniture (£8), wearing apparell (£5), various household items (£3:06), lumber (£2), and books (£1).[39]

On October 31, 1682, full power and authority of administering the estate of "John Harding late of Waymouth deced intestate" was granted to John Whitmarsh "in right of his wife the onely childe of sd Harding."[39] John Whitmarsh made oath in court regarding the accuracy of the inventory appraisal on November 1, 1682.[39] John Whitmarsh and John Holbrooke posted a bond of £300 for the administration by John Whitmarsh of the estate of "his late father in law John Harding of Waymouth" on November 2, 1682.[38]

Chronology of Records

  • 1640. John Harding was made a freeman of the Massachusetts Bay Colony on May 13, 1640[11][12][13]
  • 1641. At the first recorded Weymouth town meeting, on December 7, 1641, the town board (similar to a board of selectmen) consisted of Edward Bates, Thomas Richards, William Torrey, John Harding and John Upham.[9]
  • 1643. A Weymouth town record made about 1643 describing the land of John Harding, stated that he held 4 acres in the west field (2 of them first granted to Thomas Holbrooke and the other 2 to John Whtimarsh); 5 acres on Kingoke Hill first granted to John Whitmarsh; 2 and 1/2 acres of fresh marsh first granted to John Whitmarsh; 1/2 acre of fresh marsh that he gave to John Whitmarsh son of John Whitmarsh.[40][41]
  • 1651. A list dated February 2, 1651/2 of inhabitants of Weymouth of who were to receive lots on the east side of Great Pond an entry for lot 18 assigned to John Harding.[42]
  • 1652. John Harding and widow Tybbit were married on April 22, 1652.[10]
  • 1652. A Gloucester town record dated June 27, 1652, states that John Harding bought of William Seargant 4 acres of upland lying in the south side of Phillip Stainwood's land and in the north side of John Harden's which was formerly Walter Tibbitts, 3 acres of salt marsh in annasquam and 3 acres of marsh at Chabeckoe.[43][35][18]
  • 1652. At a Quarterly Court held at Salem on November 30, 1652, John Hardinge was named as a member of the Grand Jury.[44]
  • 1653. At a Quarterly Court held at Salem on June 28, 1653, John Hardinge was named as a member of the Grand Jury.[45]
  • 1654. At a Quarterly Court held at Ipswich on March 28, 1654, Robert Tucker and John Harden, commissioners of Gloster, testified that William Seargent asked him to plow the land in question, 1653-4.[46]
  • 1654. Christopher Avery, John Harden, Robert Elevell, Richard Window and Samuel Doleber were the selectman for Gloucester in 1654.[23][24]
  • 1655. John Kittell testified before commissioners Robert Tucker and John Harden, at Gloucester on May 10, 1655, that he was at Goodman Tucker's house and heard William Vinson say he was told that Goodman Avery was aboard a ship where liquor was being drunk.[47]
  • 1656. At a Weymouth town meeting on November 24, 1656, William Torrey, Deacon Whitman, Deacon Rogers, Thomas Dyer, Stephen French, James Smith Sr and John Harding were elected as selectmen.[9]
  • 1657. A Gloucester town record apparently dated January 23, 1657 of a deed of land by Edward Miles to Joseph Eaveley described that land as opening upon John Hardings marsh on the southeast side.[48]
  • 1658. At a Weymouth town meeting held on December 17, 1658, John Harding was one of ten men who received grants of additional acres of land.[9]
  • 1659. A Gloucester town record dated June 24, 1659 stated that at a town meeting on December 23, 1658, Thomas Riggs had been given 6 acres of upland lying on the south side of 10 acres that had been given to Walter Tibbatt now in the possession of John Hardinge.[36]
  • 1661. A case in 1661 in Essex County Quarterly Court referred to land that was formerly Roger Hoskell's, given him by John Harding, his wife's father.[49]
  • 1662. At a Weymouth town meeting in March 1661/2, the town ordered that John Harding be paid 4s for making a staple for the pound, hooks and hinges for the meeting house and work about the pound.[37]
  • 1662. Land in Weymouth deeded on August 13, 1662 by Thomas Whitman of Weymouth yeoman to John Shaw of Weymouth was described as bounded by John Harden's land on the east.[50]
  • 1663. At a meeting of the Selectmen of Weymouth on December 14, 1663, the allocation of land in the first division included an entry showing that lot 63, consisting of 10 acres, was allocated to John Harding.[20][21]
  • 1663. John Harding was allotted lot 35, consisting of 30 acres, in the town of Weymouth second division on the Braintree line.[51]
  • 1664. An indenture dated December 7, 1664, between a number of inhabitants of Weymouth references land bound on the south by the meadow of John Harding.[52]
  • 1665. Gloucester town records dated November 28, 1665 states that (1) John Harding deeded to John Davis all that land lying next to John Davis, reserving the common to himself,[53][54][18] and (2) John Davis deeded to John Harding 1 acre of upland.[53]
  • 1665. A Gloucester town record dated November 28, 1665 states that John Harding deeded unto Phillipe Stanwode 6 acres of upland that the town gave him.[53]
  • 1668. A Gloucester town record dated March 7, 1667/8 states that John Hardain of Waymouth deeded to Richard Dicke four acres of upland that was formerly Christopher Averys' land.[31]
  • 1669. By deed dated January 30, 1668/9, Richard Dike of Glocester, in consideration of £45, sold to John Fitch one house and house lot with one additional acre, consisting of about 6 acres, that Dike bought of his grandfather Harden of Waymouth, and an additional parcel lying between said 6 acres and the land of Elizabeth Fryer. Wit: Thomas Prince, Thomas Riggs, Rebecca Daliber.[32]
  • 1679. John Harding was included in a list of the persons in Weymouth who took the Oath of Allegiance in the year 1678-79.[55]
  • 1682. Inventory of the estate of John Harding appraised on October 2, 1682.[39]
  • 1682. Administration of the estate of John Harding late of Weymouth, deceased intestate, granted on October 31, 1682 to John Whitmarsh in right of his wife, the only child of said Harding.[39]

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This is interest ing as it mentions Speakley

First name(s) John Last name Harding Year 1672 Testator first name Richard Testator last name Pininge Court Surrey Archdeaconry Court Contents SW/21_164Richard Pininge of Frensham, yeoman [nuncupative] (to church £1; to poor 10s)to Ann Upfold of Farnham, widow £10; to my servant John Cowper £2; to John Moorer £2; to my servant John Backer '£4; to John Harding of Spreakley, Frensham, yeoman £6; to John Colpis of Frensham, husbandman £2; to my wife Elizabeth Pininge, exec. all freehold land in Kingsley, Hampshire for lifeOverseers: Stephen Edwards of Churt, Frensham, husbandman; John Luffe of Green Cross, Frensham, yeoman (10s each)Witnesses: Richard Shepard; Stephen Edwards Proved: 26 Oct 1672 to exec. [DW/PA/7/15 Q.10; DW/PA/5/1672/67] County Surrey, London Country England Source Surrey & South London Will Abstracts, 1470-1856 Volume title Volume 21 Registered & Unregistered Wills 1671-1679 File volume 21 Abstract reference SW/21_164 Record set Surrey & South London Wills & Probate Index, 1470-1856 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Wills & Probate Collections from England, Great Britain

posted by Ann Browning
Just wanted to note that, although Liz Creighton mentioned John Harding of Sprakely in her comment, no one is suggesting (as far as I can tell) that John Harding of Sprakely was related to this profile's John Harding. I'm not sure there is a profile for John Harding of Sprakely on WikiTree.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks, noticed that afterwards, should have read the comment properly!

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
What a well-researched profile! It's so refreshing to read a history that's not based on speculation and wishful thinking. Thank you for sharing this ~ it must have taken considerable effort.

I'm researching John Harding of Sprakley (nowadays Spreakley) of Frensham, Surrey, England. I have his 1582 will ~ he was a Yeoman Farmer. His descendants went on to own paper mills (using rags delivered from London) and were still paper manufacturers in the 1800's.

For 300 years, the men were always known as "John Harding of Sprakley". The important point here is that 'John Harding' was a common name even in the 1500's which makes me really appreciate your comments: "John's parentage is unknown. Several different theories have been proposed, but they have all either been disproven or found to be not supported by any reliable evidence."

Thank you again for your research.

posted by Liz Creighton
Could be related. Spreakley is right next to Frensham.

First name(s) John Last name Hardinge Apprentice year 1639 Livery company Grocer Details Hardinge Joseph son of John, Frensham, Surrey, yeoman to Edward Bromfield 13 Feb 1638/9, Grocers' Company Birth county Surrey Birth country England Record set London Apprenticeship Abstracts, 1442-1850 Category Education & work Subcategory Apprentices Collections from Great Britain, England

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Another Frensham Harding

First name(s) John Last name Hardinge Year 1640 Testator first name Henry Testator last name Hardinge Court Surrey Archdeaconry Court Contents SW/13_291Henry Hardinge of Frensham, yeoman 18 Jun 1640 (to church 1s)to my son John Hardinge 1s; to James Hardinge 1s; to my daughter Joan Temple wife of John Temple 6s 8d; to my daughter Elizabeth 6s 8d; to my wife Grace Hardinge my best bed and its furniture; residue to my daughter Mary Hardinge, exec.Overseers: friends James Ranger; John Hardinge, jnr. (3s 4d each)Witnesses: Thomas Holney; Ann Richards, widow (X)Proved: 7 Jul 1640 to exec. [DW/PA/7/13 f.134r; DW/PA/5/1640/80] County Surrey, London Country England Source Surrey & South London Will Abstracts, 1470-1856 Volume title Volume 13 Register 'Harding' 1639-1649 File volume 13 Abstract reference SW/13_291 Record set Surrey & South London Wills & Probate Index, 1470-1856 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Wills & Probate Collections from England, Great Britain

posted by Ann Browning
Harding-832 and Harding-456 appear to represent the same person because: Based on daughters marriage these are the same.
posted by M Cole
Chase, in looking at the Farr records it appears that Mary, the daughter of John Harding, may actually be the daughter of Walter Tybott? In the sources provided Mary the daughter of Walter and Mary Tybott married William Haskell, Jr.
posted by Edie (Nibling) Kohutek J.D.
edited by Edie (Nibling) Kohutek J.D.
Walter Tibbot definitely had a daughter named Mary who married William Haskell. But the theory that John Harding had a daughter named Mary arose not from a confusion with Walter's daughter, but from the incorrect theory in Abner Morse's "Several Ancient Puritans" (https://archive.org/details/genealogyofdesce04mors/page/n19) and Wilbur J. Harding's "Hardings in America" (which largely relied on Morse) (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89065907198&view=1up&seq=32) that John Harding of Weymouth was the son of Richard Harding/Hardier of Braintree. Based on that incorrect belief, since Richard Hardier's will included a bequest to John Hardier or his daughter Mary and since John Harding of Weymouth's estate papers make it clear that his only child was the wife of John Whitmarsh, Abner Morse and Wilbur J. Harding claimed that John Harding of Weymouth had a daughter named Mary who was the wife of John Whitmarsh.
posted by Chase Ashley
Harding-980 and Harding-456 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicate. All differences - eg in parentage, DOB and name of daughter - are discussed in Harding-980.
posted by Chase Ashley
Chase, I have removed myself as manager of this profile. The Hardiers are not in my family line, so have at it.
A heads up that I am going to start working on this profile, starting with a Chronology of Records.
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Chase Ashley
thanks Chase. I think he is PGM. He is listed in GMD, p. 150 - John Harding who migrated to Weymouth in 1639. Also see that he is in the list of those who became freemen in 1640. here: https://archive.org/details/recordsofgoverno01mass/page/377
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Yes. Should be PGM. I just added the template.
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Chase Ashley
Harding-436 and Harding-980 do not represent the same person because: Harding-436 is now for the John Harding that Wilbur J. Harding claimed died in Weymouth in 1650.
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Chase Ashley
There could be two Hardings who lived in Weymouth at the same time. Do you have records proving who are the parents of John Harding whose daughter married John Whitmarsh? Where he was born, etc.?
I think there was only one. I need to do a bit more research, but Mary Tybott appears to have been John's second wife. I believe records show that Mary was definitely a widow. Mary's profile says she was born about 1592 and her first husband about 1584. That suggests that the current DOB for this profile is way off and should be about 1590-1600, which is consistent with Harding-980. Sole daughter Sarah would have been a child from his first marriage. There is no evidence that John Harding was the son of Richard Hardier of Braintree, who was probably born too late to have been his father. Wilbur Hardings' "Hardings in America" is mostly fiction, but unfortunately a lot of other secondary sources (and tons of family trees) have relied on it.
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Contrary to Wilbur Harding's claim, Richard Harding/Hardier of Braintree was definitely NOT the father of John Harding of Weymouth. Richard Hardier's 1657 will makes a bequest to John Hardier (presumed to be his son) or his daughter Mary. John Harding of Weymouth's only child was John Whitmarsh's wife and the birth records for their children prove that her name was Sarah.
posted by Chase Ashley
Agreed. Harding-980 is not the same person as Harding-456, although they both claim the death date of 1682. Harding-980 would have been 88 years of age at death which would have been unusual.
Harding-456 is also for John Harding of Weymouth, but they contain wildly different theories of his origin, different spouses and different names for the daughter.
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Chase Ashley
Harding-980 is also for John Harding of Weymouth, but they contain wildly different theories of his origin, different spouses and different names for the daughter.
posted by Chase Ashley
Harding-436 and Harding-980 appear to represent the same person because: both show Agnes Blisse as a spouse and 1682 death in Weymouth.
posted on Harding-980 (merged) by Miguel Kelley

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