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John Maxwell Nesbitt Hawthorne (abt. 1797 - 1868)

John Maxwell Nesbitt Hawthorne aka Hawthorn
Born about in Philadelphia, Pamap
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[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died at about age 70 in Huntington, Suffolk Co., LI, Nmap
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John was born about 1802. John Hawthorne ... [1]

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  1. Entered by Lora Osborne, Saturday, August 31, 2013.

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John Nesbitt Hawthorn (1st) was born between 1797-1804 (probably 1803) in Philadelphia Pennsylvania to Thomas Hawthorn (merchant) and his wife Mary Meredith (daughter of Jonathan Meredith and Elizabeth Tuckey).

At this time, I have no record of where Thomas and Mary Hawthorn are buried, though I believe it is possibly somewhere in Ireland. I have as yet found no evidence that either returned to America or Canada after 1813 (Mary’s sister Elizabeth Ogden, wife of Charles Ogden resided in Montreal, Quebec).

Thomas Hawthorn, was born near Newry, County Down, N. Ireland, and originally they would have been of either Scot’s or English descent, and protestant. Thomas had at least two brothers James Hawthorn d. 1793 and Archibald Hawthorn. He had relatives in the merchant trade in Belfast and Dublin, one being a William Hawthorn of the company of "Hawthorn and Lang" . He was kin to John Maxwell Nesbitt of Philadelphia (called nephew). Much information is in the history books relating to John Maxwell Nesbitt’s contributions to the American Revolution. Mary Meredith was born in Philadelphia, and her parents Jonathan Meredith and Elizabeth Tuckey were originally from England. Elizabeth Tuckey's father was William Tuckey, choir master of Christ Church, Philadelphia and made significant contributions to music in America).

John Nesbitt Hawthorn (1st) had several brothers and at least one sister. John’s known siblings were, Archibald Charles Hawthorn, M.D. (doctor in the British navy, died at sea), Ann Lang Hawthorn (French) of New Ross, Ireland, Hugh Hawthorn (died in New Orleans), William Meredith Hawthorn, M.D. (m. a daughter of Wright Post, M.D.), Robert Harwood Hawthorn, merchant (m. a daughter of Wright Post, M.D.).

John Nesbitt Hawthorn (1st) left Philadelphia with his parents and siblings about 1808 and went to Baltimore Maryland and about 1813, he and his parents and siblings returned to Ireland. John Nesbitt Hawthorn returned to America before 1821.

From 1821 until 1829, John N. Hawthorn (1st) was a merchant and broker in New York City in the financial district very near to where Trump Towers is located today. Based on the probability that Emma was born first (1850 Huntington, New York Census) it would appear that John and his wife (no name for her as yet) were married between 1823 and 1825, probably in New York City or Long Island. Which means Charles Henry Hawthorne was born where he said, on Long Island in New York and the family was definitely in New York in 1827. It is very unlikely that Mrs. John N. Hawthorne was a Choctaw as sometimes speculated. According to her daughter Emma Hawthorn Jones (Mrs. Edward Mitchell Jones) she was of French ancestry.

John Nesbitt Hawthorn (1st) and two of his brothers resided in Huntington, Suffolk County Long Island New York. And John is buried in Huntington per his obituary having died in 1868 in New York City.

John N. Hawthorn was a merchant and attorney of New Orleans Louisiana, from about 1829 to 1860, when the Civil War broke out, he and his brother Robert and Robert’s family escaped through the blockade and returned to New York (see Huntington, Suffolk, New York 1860 census). John N. Hawthorn (1st) continued to commute to New York City to work until his death in 1868.

John N. Hawthorn was a prominent merchant and attorney of New Orleans, holding many political offices including having served in the Louisiana House of Representatives from at least 1852-1854. His business partner for most of his years in New Orleans was another New Yorker, James Lawrence Bogert (sometimes spelled Bogart in records but is Bogert). Robert Harwood Hawthorn and family also resided in New Orleans for many years. John was for the union and would have been very much adverse to Charles Henry Hawthorne’s southern sympathies.

Since Charles and Emma did not appear in John’s household in 1840 or 1850 New Orleans it is my conjecture that after the death of their mother, John sent them to live with his brother William Hawthorn in Long Island, and were they both would have continued their educations until Emma married about 1858 and went to live at Cold Spring Harbor, Long Island with here husband who was Captain of several ships on the Malaga route, including the “Brig. Mary E. Jones” (Emma is listed as Mary E. Jones on one census) which I assume was named after his wife “Mary Emma (Hawthorn) Jones”.

Charles probably attended school, possibly a university though I have found no such record as of this date or he may have been apprenticed to an attorney to read law (perhaps his uncle Judge Jonathan Meredith Jr. of Baltimore), until he eventually left New York for Missouri. Jonathan Meredith’s granddaughter was the first wife of James Roosevelt, and was the mother of James Roosevelt, ½ brother of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

There is much more to be found, and I hope to hear from all my numerous Hawthorn relatives regarding what they can add to this brief history.





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