Elizabeth (Hempstead) Plumbe

Elizabeth (Hempstead) Plumbe

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Elizabeth Plumbe formerly Hempstead
Born in New London, New London, Connecticut, USAmap
Wife of — married in New London, New London, Connecticut, USAmap
Mother of
Died in New London, New London, Connecticut, USAmap
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Elizabeth HEMPSTEAD PLUMBE was born to Joshua and Elizabeth Larrabee Hempstead on Christmas Eve, 1672. She died 19 Sept 1733, less and one year after her husband John Plumbe.

Claims by LAMB family descendants that Elizabeth Hempstead (daughter of Joshua & Elizabeth Larrabee Hempstead, 25 Dec 1672-19 Sept 1733) married their ancestor Isaac are unworthy of consideration, as they are speculative, long dismissed by serious researchers, and not supported by any historical record.

Historical Record and the Marriage of Elizabeth Hempstead

I. Connecticut Town Marriage Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)

HEMPSTEAD, HEMPSTED, HEMSTER

Elisabeth, m. John PLUMBE, Feb. 13, 1688/9

PLUMBE, PLUMB John, m. Elizabeth HEMPSTEAD, Feb. 13, 1688/9


II. New London, New London, Connecticut Vital Records

1688/9 February 13- John Plumb & Elizabeth Hempstead were married-

Children Elizabeth born February 27 1689/90 John " November 21 1692 Abigail " January 1 1694/5 Joshua " August 3 1697 Sarah " December 22 1699 Peter " " 26 1700 at sunset. Lydia " April 24 1703 Hannah " July 15 1705. on Sabbath day at sunrise. Daniel son born Saturday June 12- 1708 & dyed the 28th Sept. following. Patience...born March 4- 1709/10 on Saturday night 8 of the clock & dyed March 22- 1710/11. Elisha born March 10- 1711/12 on Monday four of the clock in the afternoon.

(Please note that the first son of John and Elizabeth is named after his father John; the second son is named after Elizabeth's father Joshua (or possibly her brother Joshua). Also, Elizabeth Hempstead has sisters named Hannah and Patience)


III. New England Marriages Prior to 1700

PLUMB, John and Elizabeth Hempstead; 13 Feb 1688/89; New London


IV. The DIARY OF JOSHUA HEMPSTEAD (56 references to John Plumbe as "Brother Plumb," published by the New London Historical Society)

A. (Introduction) "Children of Joshua (father of diarist)...Elizabeth, b. Dec. 2, 1672, m. John Plumb Feb. 13, 1689, d. Sept. 19, 1733."

B. (Entries) Saturday, 28 Oct 1732: "Brother Jno Plumb died with a violent Cold...I was Called up at 3 Clock to go to Brother Plumbs & I found him a Dying...I Stayed after I help lay him out..."

Sun day, 29 Nov 1732: "Brother Plumb was buried after meeting."

Diary Entry, Friday, 19 Sept 1733: "I set up Last Night with Sister Eliz Plumb. She was all night a Dying. She Dyed this morn about 7 o the Clock; 60 year old Last Christmas Eve."

Thursday, 20 Sept 1733: "I was att the funeral of Sister Plumb."

On the death of John Plumbe's Mother, Elizabeth Green Plumbe - Saturday, 18 Nov 1721: "Aunt Plumb died."

Paying a visit to Amy Plumbe, wife of Joshua Plumb (son of John & Elizabeth) - Monday, 6 Aug 1750: "In the aftern I went to...See Cuzn amy Plumb..."

On the death of Hannah Harris Plumbe, wife of John, son of John and Elizabeth - Wednesday, 5 Oct 1757: "Hannah Plumb wife of my Nephew John Plumb Died 50 0dd."

On the death of Peter Plumbe, his nephew, son of John and Elizabeth Hempstead Plumbe - Wednesday, 1 February 1748/49: "Peter Plumbe my Eldest Sisters youngest Son aged about 48 was taken yesterday...I called to see him, he Expired about 2 clock morn..."

Joshua Hempstead makes 1 incidental reference to Isaac Lamb in the 12 years his DIARY overlaps Isaac's life; he does not mention Isaac as a "Brother," or Isaac's wife as his "Sister" Elizabeth, and he does not mention Isaac Lamb's death or burial in the DIARY, even though he is meticulous over the 47 years of his journal to mention death's and funeral/burials of aquaintances in New London County.


V. Groton, Connecticut, Book of Deeds (4 1/2 years after the death of Elizabeth Hempstead Plumbe)

“ This settlement of bounds made and executed by and between Jacob Lamb of Groton Farmer & Daniel Lamb of the same farmer where we now dwell is as follows … true dividing bounds & lines between our adjoining lands … lying to the eastward of the brook which the sd Daniel hath sold to Deacon Collver and is to be excluded out of this settlement … Dated 21 Nov 1737 … recd 28 Feb 1737/8. Signed Jacob Lamb, Daniel Lamb … wit: Humphrey Avery, Elisabeth E. Lamb her mark.”

(please note, the above record from the Groton Book of Deeds, signed by the widow of Isaac Lamb, Elizabeth E. Lamb, is transacted 4 1/2 years after the death of Elizabeth Hempstead Plumbe, widow of John Plumbe, sister of Joshua Hempstead, the New London Diarist, and daughter of Joshua and Elizabeth Larrabee Hempstead)


VI. HISTORY OF NEW LONDON, CONNECTICUT, From the first Survey of the Coast in 1612-1860, by Frances Manwaring Caulkins

" Its (THE DIARY OF JOSHUA HEMPSTEAD) author was a remarkable man - one that might serve to represent, or at least illustrate, the age, country, and society in which he lived…….As the Hempstead descendants are numerous, and this publication should have an especial attraction to them, a genealogy of the immediate families of Robert, Joshua, and Joshua Hempstead, 2d is given...Joshua Hempstead, married Elizabeth Larrabee. He died 1687.” (Under children of this couple) “Elizabeth, b. September 2, 1672, m. John Plumb, 1689, died 1733.”


Genealogical Record and the Marriage of Elizabeth Hempstead

I. THE PLUMBS, 1635-1800 by Henry Blackman Plumb

NAMES, John Plumbe, Elizabeth Hempstead; MARRIAGE, Feb. 13, 1688/9

An indirect yet powerful proof of relationship is provided in the fact that when Mary Hempstead Plumbe (wife of Greene Plumbe, John Esquire's younger brother) dies, in her will she names John Plumbe (III), her nephew, son of John and Elizabeth Hempstead Plumbe, (born 1692) as her executor.


II. The New York Genealogical and Biographical Index, Vol. 51

"Elizabeth, b. Dec 24, 1672; bap. Dec. 29, 1672; died Dec 29, 1733, H.D. p 264; m. Feb. 13, 1688-9, John Plumb"


III. Families of Early Milford Connecticut (included in a biography of Samuel Plumbe, son of John and Elizabeth, early settler of Milford)

" John (PLUMBE) b ca 1666 mar Elizabeth Hempstead..."


IV. Genealogical and Personal History of Fayette County, Pennsylvania

" Joshua, son of Robert and Joanna (Willey) Hempstead, was born in 1649. He succeeded his father in the ownership of the homestead. He married Elizabeth Larrabee, of Saybrook, Connecticut, and died in 1687. Their children were nine in number: Elizabeth, died in infancy; 'Elizabeth, born 1672, married John Plumbe;' Mary, born 1674, married Greene Plumbe; Lydia, born 1676, married - Salmon; Joshua, of whom further; Hannah, born, 1680, married John Edgecomb; Phebe, died unmarried; Patience, married (first) Thomas Ross, (second) James Hodsell; Lucy, married John Hartshorne..."


V. Report of the Hempstead Family Association: http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH26&CISOP TR=29399&CISOSHOW=29380

" ...ELIZABETH, died in infancy ELIZABETH, b. 1672, married John PLUMBE MARY, b . 1674, maosied GREENE PLUMBE..."


VI. Genealogical and Family History of Southern New York and the Hudson River Valley, Vol. II

"He (John Plumbe) married, Dec. 13, 1689, Elizabeth Hempstead..."


VII. Chapter 7 Attachment: Ancestry of Isaac Lamb of Groton, New London County, Connecticut (written and compiled by LAMB researcher Clovis LaFleur):

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clovis/isaac%20lamb.htm

" Joshua Hempstead, married Elizabeth Larrabee. He died 1687.” Under children of this couple was listed Joshua Hempstead, 2d, the author of the Hempstead Diary and listed as the oldest child was “Elizabeth, b. September 2, 1672, m. John Plumb, 1689, died 1733.” The New London Town records also record, "1688/9 February 13- John Plumb & Elizabeth Hempstead were married..," which further confirms Elizabeth Hempstead married John Plumb.


VIII. Isaac Lamb Appendix: Isaac Lamb Timeline (written and compiled by LAMB researcher Clovis LaFleur):

Bold texthttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clovis/isaac_lamb_timeline

" 1737: November 21, 'This settlement of bounds made and executed by and between Jacob Lamb of Groton Farmer & Daniel Lamb of the same farmer where we now dwell is as follows … true dividing bounds & lines between our adjoining lands … lying to the eastward of the brook which the sd Daniel hath sold to Deacon Collver and is to be excluded out of this settlement … Dated 21 Nov 1737 … recd 28 Feb 1737/8. Signed Jacob Lamb, Daniel Lamb … wit: Humphrey Avery, Elisabeth E. Lamb her mark.' Isaac’s sons, Daniel and Jacob, settle the division of the land they inherited from Isaac Senior. Notice one of the witnesses was Elizabeth Lamb, most likely the widow of Isaac. [Book 4, page 61 of Groton Deed Books]"


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Sources

  • WikiTree profile Hempstead-48 created through the import of RALPHP~1.GED on Sep 10, 2012 by Ralph Polen. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ralph and others.




Biography

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Birth

Birth:
Date: 24 DEC 1671
Place: Stonington, New London, Connecticut, USA[1][2]

Death

Death:
Date: 29 SEP 1733[3]

Baptism

Baptism:
Date: 29 DEC 1672[4]

Marriage

Husband: John* Plumbe
Wife: Elizabeth Hempstead
Marriage:
Date: 13 FEB 1688/89
Place: New London, New London, Connecticut, USA[5][6]

Imported only 13 FEB 1688 from Marriage Date and marked as uncertain.

Sources

  • WikiTree profile Hempstead-37 created through the import of perry and plumb tree.ged on Aug 18, 2012 by Merry Kennedy. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Merry and others.
  • Source: S190 Title: New England Marriages Prior to 1700, pg 236
  • Source: S284 Author: NY Genealogical and Biographical Society Title: The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record Publication: Name: NY;
  • Source: S331 Title: Vital Records
  1. Source: #S331 Page: New London Vital Statistics from the collated copy from the original records, Vol. 1, pg 11
  2. Source: #S284
  3. Source: #S284 Page: pg 262
  4. Source: #S284 Page: pg 262
  5. Source: #S331 Page: New London Vital Statistics from the collated copy from the original records, Vol. 1, pg 43
  6. Source: #S190 Page: pg 590








Memories: 1

On December 16, 2012 Chuck Plumb wrote:

A New London Historian comments on the purported connection between the New London HEMPSTEADS and LAMBS: "It is very frustrating when someone hijacks some poor ancestor who can't even defend him/herself. There is far too much of that around...Having said that, I don't know what more you can do than you are already doing. I Googled "Elizabeth Lamb" and checked a couple of sites. Found one where you (or someone else) had posted your information, but I can't say it seemed to make any difference to the other (mis) information on the site. Probably the only time these things make an impression is when someone wants to use the info to get into the DAR or Mayflower Society, which is not the case here.

I can add that Hempstead says when noting the death of "Sister Eliz Plumb" that she was "60 year old Last Christmas Eve," making her obviously the Eliz. H born 12/24/1672. The idea that she was married at 14 (and then divorced within two years) is clearly ludicrous. Given the way dates were done then, with the year starting Mar. 25, it may actually have been 1690 when she was married, making her 17, which is more reasonable. Anyway, other than commiserate, there's not much I can suggest. If someone came into the [Shaw] Mansion [home of the NLCHS] with a Lamb genealogy we could correct it, but short of that."



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On October 6, 2014 at 14:17GMT K Layman wrote:

Hempstead-69 and Hempstead-17

These are two profiles representing the same person, and the two should be merged. The profile managers should collaborate on which spouse is correct, and detach the other.


On October 6, 2014 at 14:09GMT Merry Kennedy wrote:

Hempstead-69 and Hempstead-17 are not ready to be merged because: the "wife of" is totally different




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