Humphrey Hill (1404 - 1484)

Born 1404 in Hodnet, Shropshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Agnes (Bird) Hill — married 1429 in , Shropshire, , England

Descendants

Died 1484 at about age 80 in Shropshire, England

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Biography

Name and Parents

Humphrey Hill appears in three tables in the 1623 Visitation of Shropshire. He appears most prominently in the Table Hill of Court of Hill where he appears as Humfridus Hull vulgo Hill de Buntingsdale, son of Gruffithus Hull de Hull in co Salop (and of Wlonkslowe) and his wife Margaretta soror Gruffithi Warren de Ightfeld in co Salop. ^[1]

In the Table Stuche of Stycle he appears as Humfridus Hill de Buntingesdale, son of Griffithus Hill and grandson of Willimus Hill.^[2]

In the Table Bromley where he is the father-in-law of a Bromley descendant, he is referred to simply as Humfry Hill of Blore & Huntingsdale. ^[3]

1410 Birth Estimates

Burke and Ormerod estimate Humphrey Hill's birth as, say, 1410 in Shropshire, England, the son of Griffith Hull and Margaret Warren. ^[4][2]

Burke states that 'Humphrey Hill, of Buntingdale [son of Griffith Hull and Margaret Warren], ... lived in the reigns of Henry V (1413-1422) and Henry VI (1422-1461) . ^[4]. Estimate that he "flourished" at the midpoint of that period -- 1437. If he was 30 when he "flouished" he would have been born about 1407, which is consistent with other estimates of his birth year.

Lines of Descent

Each of the Visitation pedigrees places Humphrey Hill in a line of descent related to that pedigree.

Hill Line: Descent from Hugo Hull

1. Hugo Hull de Hull in com Salop = Elianora filia et coher. Of Hugo de Wlonkeslow (Hawkeslowe, now Longslow) ^[1]
2. Will’us Hull (1362) married ___ Bunting of Buntingsdale ^[1]
3. Griffithus Hull de Hull in co Salop and of Wlonikeslowe = Margareta soror Griffithi Warren de Ightfield in co Salop.^[1]
4. Humfridus Hull vulgo Hill de Buntingsale = Agnes fil. Et cohaer. Joh’s Bird consanguinis et haeres Davidi de Malpas^[1]
5. Beatrix vs. Will’I Bromley^[1]

Longslow Line: Descent from William Longslow

1. Will’us Wlonkeslow de Wlonkeslow in com Salop (spouse unknown), ^[2]
2. Will’us Wlonkeslow de Wlonkeslow in Co Salop superstes a 42 H 3 (1216+42=1258) Spouse unknown.
3. Hugo Wlonkeslow de Wlonkeslow in com Salop married Alicia filia Roberti
4. Hugo filius hugonis de Wlonkeslow (now Longslow) in com. Salop married Agnes filia Editha
5. Elianora filia et altera haered’ nupta Hugoni Hill
6. Willmus Hill, spouse unknown
7. Griffithus Hill, spouse unknown
8. Humfridus hill de Buntingesdale, spouse not shown.

Bromley Line of Descent

Bromley Line: Descent from Warin de Burwardeslegh

The Bromley line of descent is provided both in the Visitation of Shropshire ^[3] and also in Brydges' edition of Collins' Peerage. ^[5]

1. Warinus de Burwardeslegh dominus manerij de Esseleghe in com. Staffordiae temp Regis Joh'is. (1199-1216) ^[3] Warin was lord of the manor of Estelegh, in com. Stafford, in King John's time. ^[5]
2. Alicia soror aetate maxima et vna hered 'Rogeri de Burwardeslegh = Walterus de Bromlegh miles do'nus de Bromlegh. ^[3] Alice was the eldest sister and one of the heirs of Roger de Burwardeslegh, lord of the manor of Estelegh, in com. Stafford, in King John's time. Alice married Sir Walter Bromleghe, of Bromleghe, in the county of Stafford, Knt, who was living in the reign of King John. Her sister was married to John de Ipstones, whose son, Joh, died without issue in 21 Edward I. ^[5]
3. Galfridus de Bromlegh ob a 1 E 1 (1272) ^[3] Galfridus was found to be heir to John, son of John de Ipstone, in 21 Edward I; Galfridus died 1 Edward I ^[5] WikiTree birth 1212
4. Richardus de Bromlegh a 25 E 1 (1297) = filia Knocton ^[3] Richard de Bromlegh, the eldest son of Galfridus, inherited the estate at Bromlegh. He was living in 25 Edward I, as appears by deed, dated at Knockton, on the feast of St. Gregory (March 112th, 1296-7), whereby he conveyed lands in Knockton to Peter de Arderne, to which Sir Robert de Stawndon, and Sir Roger Swinerton, Knights, were witnesses. This Richard was married to the daughter of Knockton. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1238
5. Randulphus fil Ricardi de Bromleigh a 23 E 1 (1295) ^[3] Ranulph de Bromlegh in a deed in 11 Edward III is called son of Richard. ^[5] His children included Richard, who is wrote son of Ranulph, in 11 Edward III in a deed, whereby he granted to John de le Delves, a third part of Burlemore, within the fee of Knocton. His children also included Walter, Sir Roger, and John. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1268
6. ,Johannes de Bromley Ar ae 1335 = Joanna ^[3] John de Bromley, of Badynton, by his wife Joan had 3 sons, Walter, William and Roger. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1294
7. Willielmus de Bromley de Radinton 2e filius = Anabella soror & hgeires Will'mi de Chetelton. (Chetelton descent: (1) Willimus de Chetilton (2) Roertus Chetilton dictis Schirrard (Chirrard) (3) Henricus de Chetilton fil & hgeires (4) Will'm's de Cheilton miles Ae xi E 3 (1338) (5) Mattheus de Chettelton Ar = Johanna filia & heiress Will'mi de Clifton renupta Johann' Griffin) ^[3] William Bromley, second son of John, was of Badinton, and in 35 Edward III, was summoned to be at Westminster, within three weeks of Easter, to attend Lionel, Earl of Ulster, the King's son, into Ireland. He married Annabella, sister and heir of William de Chetelton, son of Matthew, son of Sir William de Chettleton, son of Henry, son of Robert (called Shirrard), son of William de Chettleton. ^[5] WikiTree Birth 1320.
8. Johannes Bromley filius & heires Will'mi de Bromley = Agnes da to John Trentham ^[3] John de Bromley, son and heir of William, by Annabella de Chettelton, married Agnes, daughter of John Trentham, and left issue by her. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1346
9. Walterus de Bromley = Joanna filia Richardi de Delves ^[3] Walter de Bromley took to wife Joan, daughter of Richard de Delves, and had issue Roger and Nicholas. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1381
10. Rogerus Bromley de Mittley Ar filius & heires Waltera = Janna filia & heires Ricardide Mitley, son of Richardus Mitley de Mitley in com. Salope = Ellena filia & heires Joh'es Hawkeston militis and grandson of Johannes Hawkeston miles = Annabella filia & heires Mathaei Chetelton relicta Galfiridi Brereton renupta Johanni Martin. ^[3] Roger Bromley of Mitley, in right of Jane his wife, daughter and heir of Richard de Mitley, of the county of Salop, by Ellen, daughter and heir of Sir John Hawkeston, Knt, by Annabella, daughter and heir of Matthew de Chetelton. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1415
11. Rogerus Bromley de Mittley Ar. filius & heires Rogera = filia & heires Davidi Browe, son of Davidus de Browe de Malopasu in com Cestr. = fi;lia Rathbone. ^[3] Roger Bromely, eldest son and heir, married the daughter of David Broe, of Malpas, in Cheshire and had four sons, William, John, Roger and Humfry. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1440
12. Will'm Bromley of Mitley Esq son and heire = Beatrix da of Humfry Hill of Blore & Huntingsdale. ^[3] William Bromley, Esq, eldest son of Roger, was seated at Mitley, and living 7 Henry VII (Benevolence Roll for Shropshire), and married Beatrice, daugher of Humphry Hill, of Blore and Buntingdale. ^[5] WikiTree birth 1460

1434 Marriage and Malpas Descent

Say 1434 ^[6] he married Agnes Bird, daughter of John Bird and Alice de Malpas. Agnes was born, say, 1414, probably in Cheshire, England. ^[4][2]

Ormerod notes that Humphrey Hill married Agnes, daughter and coheiress of John Bird, by his wife Alice, one of the daughters and coheirs of David de Malpas of Hampton. ^[7]

Burke reports that Humphrey Hill married Agnes, daughter and co-heir of John Bird, and cousin and heiress of David de Malpas, ...' ^[4]

The Visitation shows Humfridus Hull vulgo Hill de Buntingsale = Agnes fil. Et cohaer. Joh’s Bird consanguinis et haeres Davidi de Malpas^[1]

Humphrey Hill, father of Thomas Hill, married Anne, or Agnes, daughter and Co-heir of John Bird of Charlton by the niece and heiress of David David de Malpas. Humphrey Hill, or Hull, as the name was formerly spelt, was the son of Griffith Hull of Bintingsdale and Wlonkeslow by Margaret, or Mary, sister of Griffith Warren of Ightfield, son of William Hull, the son of Hugh Hull of Hull by Eleanor, daughter and heir of Hugh de Wlonkeslow. ^[8]

Ormerod notes that Sir Rowland Hill on his coat of arms had added, on a conton, the coat of Malpas of Hampton, of which family he was a representative, his grandfather Humphrey Hill, having married Agnes, daughter and coheiress of John Bird, by his wife Alice, one of the daughters and coheirs of David de Malpas of Hampton. ^[9]

1461 Death

Humphrey Hill died about 1461 in Buntingdale, Shropshire. ^[10]

Issue

Humphrey and Agnes had several children: ^[11]

In the absence of concrete data, and in order to accomodate other relationships, suggested birth year estimates below add 10 years to the estimate in "we relate."

Children of Humphrey Hill cannot be born after his death in 1461. Births close to his death raise the question of who raised the family after his death, and how his widow survived.

1. William Hill, b. 1430, , Hodnet, Shropshire, England d. , Buntingdale, Shropshire, England. ^[10] William Hill, b. est 1435, probably Shropshire, England ^[11] Revised birth year: 1445 Shown on Wikitree as 1435.
2. Beatrice Hill, b. est 1437, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Beatrix vs. Will’I Bromley^[1] Revised birth year: 1447 Shown on Wikitree as born 1474. Further Revision: 1460
3. Katherina Hill, est 1440, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Revised birth year: 1450
4. Thomas Hill, b. Abt 1440, , Hodnet, Shropshire, England d. 1520, , Buntingdale, Shropshire, England (Age ~ 80 years)^[10] Revised birth year: 1450
5. Eliza Hill, b . est 1443, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Revised birth year: 1453
6. Johanna Hill, b. est 1446, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Revised birth year: 1456
7. Ralph Hill, b. est 1449, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Revised birth year: 1459
8. Thomas Hill, b. est 1452, probably Shropshire, England^[11] Shown on WikiTre as born 1460. Thomas Hill, father of Joan or Johanna Hill, was the father of Sir Rowland Hill, the first Protestant Lord Mayor of London. He married Margaret, daughter of Thomas Wilbraham of Woodhay, co. Chester. He was the son of Humphrey Hill, or Hull, by Anne, or Agnes, daughter and co-heir of John Bird of Charlton. ^[8] #Rowland Hill, Mayor of London, b. Abt 1445, , Buntingdale, Shropshire, England, d. London, , Greater London, England ^[10]

Not listed at We Relate:

1. George Hill, b. 1452

Research Notes

Birth Year Estimates from Less Reliable Sources

The LDS Pedigree resource file shows Humphrey Hill born 1404 in Hodnet, Shropshire, England. Another web site shows him born about 1410 in Buntingdale, Shropshire. ^[10]

The "Our Family History" site shows him as the son of Griffith Hill, Griffith being born in 1372 in Hodnet, Shropshire, England and died in Buntingdale, Shropshire, England and of Margaret Warren, b. 1398, Lightfield, , Shropshire, England and died, Buntingdale, Shropshire, England ^[10]

Marriage Year Estimaes from Less Reliable Sources

A Hill family genealogy suggests 1429 as the year of the marriage, in Buntingdale, Shropshire. "He married Agnes Bird, b. 1410, of, Metley, Stafford, England d. , Buntingdale, Shropshire, England." ^[12]

"Our Family Histories" gives estimated birth years for the children beginning in 1435 and extending to 1445; based on this, an estimated year of the marriage would be 1434, when Agnes would have been 24. This is not unreasonable, but it places the births of the family too early in other relationships. Therefore it is suggested that the marriage and births took place around 10 years later.

Relations

David David de Malpas was the uncle of the wife of John Bird of Charlton. A reference to the Egerton pedigree shows that Roger, natural son of Sir William de Malpas, had issue David, father of David of Bickerton and Hampton, who married Katherine, daughter of Hugh de Bickerton. They had issue John, whose son, David, died without issue, thus leaving his aunts his coheirs.^[8]

Hugh de Bickerton was the father of Katherine, who married David of Bickerton and Hampton, whose father David was the son of Roger, natural son of Sir William de Malpas.^[8]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7} Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms, Marshals and Deputies to William Camden, Clarenceux Ring of Arms. The Visitation of Shropshire Taken in the Year 1623 Hill of Court of Hill Publication of the Harleian Society, Est. AD 1869. London: 1889. Part II, pages 242-243. Accessed September 5, 2018 jhd
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3} Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms, Marshals and Deputies to William Camden, Clarenceux Ring of Arms. The Visitation of Shropshire, Taken in the Year 1623 Publication of the Harleian Society, Est. AD 1869. Stuche of Styche, Part II, p. 445-446, London: 1889 Accessed December 21, 2016
3. ↑ ^{3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13} Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms, Marshals and Deputies to William Camden, Clarenceux Ring of Arms. The Visitation of Shropshire, Taken in the Year 1623 Publication of the Harleian Society Est. AD 1869. Bromley, Volume XVIII, Part I, pp. 71-66, London: 1889 Accessed November 27, 2017 jhd
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} Burke, John, and George Ormerod. A genealogical and heraldic history of the commoners of Great Britain and Ireland enjoying territorial possessions or high official rank: but uninvested with heritable honors. (London: Published for Henry Colburn, by R. Bentley, 1834-1838), 1:654.
5. ↑ ^{5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13} Arthur Collins and Egerton Brydges. Collins's Peerage of England, updated and continued to the present time. London: 1812 In Nine Volumes. Bromley, Lord Montfort Volume VII, Page 250. Accessed 8/1/2019 jhd
6. ↑ Marriage year estimated based on estimated birth year of oldest son.
7. ↑ George Ormerod (1785-1873) The history of the county palatine and city of Chester: compiled from original evidences in public offices, the Harleian and Cottonian mss., parochial registers, private muniments, unpublished ms. collections of successive Cheshire antiquaries, and a personal survey of every township in the county; incorporated with a republication of King's Vale royal, and Leycester's Cheshire antiquities. London, 1819, Volume 2 Page 332 Accessed 5/28/2019 jhd
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3} Joan or Johanna Hill, the wife of John Gratwood, was the sister and co-heir of Sir Rowland Hill, the first Protestant Lord Mayor of London, and daughter of Thomas Hill of Malpas and Hodnet, by Margaret, daughter of Thomas Wilbraham of Woodhay, co. Chester, son of Humphrey Hill, or Hull, by Anne, or Agnes, daughter and co-heir of John Bird of Charlton, by the niece and heiress of David David de Malpas. A reference to the Egerton pedigree shows that Roger, natural son of Sir William de Malpas, had issue David, father of David of Bickerton and Hampton who married Katherine, daughter of Hugh de Bickerton. They had issue John, whose son, David, died without issue, thus leaving his aunts his co-heirs. Humphrey Hill, or Hull, as the name was formerly spelt, was the son of Griffith Hull of Buntingsdale and Wlonkeslow by Margaret, or Mary, sistger of Griffith Warren of Ightfield, son of William Hull, the son of Hugh Hull of Hull by Eleanor, daughter and heir of Hugh de Wlonkeslow. Collections Historica and Archaeological relating to Montgomeryshire, Vol. XIV, p. 69, Hugh de Wlonkeslow is given as the the father of Eleanor, the wife of Hugh Hull. https://books.google.com/books?id=lpoxAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=%22Hugh+de+Wlonkeslow+%22&source=bl&ots=E2TzFOwMIQ&sig=XktMqh5r8yRSYa-6pss7U40kLjU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitgOuR2oPRAhXEx1QKHYs-CIAQ6AEIODAG#v=onepage&q=%22Hugh%20de%20Wlonkeslow%20%22&f=false. Accessed December 20, 2016.
9. ↑ George Ormerod. The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester; compiled from Original Evidences in Public Offices, the Harleian and Cottonian Mss, Parochial Register, private Muniments, Unpublished Ms. Collections of Successive Cheshire Antiquaries, and a personal survey of every township in the county...Second edition, revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Esq. London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882. Volume II Malpas page 597. Accessed December 8, 2018 jhd
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5} Humphrey Hill. Our Family Histories. www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I36671. (broken link and not on archive.org 9 December 2023)
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5 11.6 11.7} We Relate. Humphrey Hill and Agnes Bird. . http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Family:Humphrey_Hill_and_Agnes_Bird_(1) Accessed December 15, 2016
12. ↑ Paget, Mary; Hillor, June, "Hill Generation: The Beginning of the Hill Family in England" (([England] : M. Paget, [199-?]); LC CALL NO.: CS439.H551990z; FORMAT: Book; LCCN: 94-137586). Cited by Our Family Histories. www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I36671. (broken link and not on archive.org 9 December 2023) Accessed December 16, 2016.