Hannah (Unknown) Spencer
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Hannah (Unknown) Spencer (abt. 1618 - bef. 1685)

Hannah Spencer formerly [surname unknown]
Born about in Stotfold, Bedfordshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1637 in Lynn, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 67 in East Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticutmap [uncertain]
Profile last modified | Created 20 Mar 2012
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Hannah (Unknown) Spencer migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).
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Biography

Note: this profile is in need of a careful work to succinctly present documented information. ~ T Stanton 25 Jul 2022.


Children:[1]

i. John(2), b. ca. 1636; d. 3 Aug 1682.
ii. Mehitabel, b. ca. 1638; d. 1691; m. by 1661, Daniel Cone of Haddam, b. ca. 1627, d. 24 Oct 1706 in 80th yr.; ten children.
iii. Hannah, b. ca. 1640; d. by 1691; m. ca. 1664, Daniel Brainerd of Haddam, b. ca. 1641, d. 1 Apr 1715 ae. 74. He m. (2) 29 Nov 1698, Hannah (Spencer) Sexton (No. 7, vii).
iv. Marah, b. ca. 1642; d. before 22 Dec 1714; m. (1) in 1662, Thomas Brooks, who d. at Haddam, 18 Oct 1668; four children; m. (2) in 1669, Thomas Shaylor of Haddam, who d. ca. 1692; five children.
v. Sarah, b. ca. 1644; living 1707; m. Dec 1666, Stephen Backus of Nowich, b. ca. 1642, d. at Canterbury, in 1695, son of William; eight children.
vi. Elizabeth, b. ca. 1646; m. ca. 1666, Joseph Stannard of Saybrook, who d. 20 Aug 1688.
vii. Thomas, b. ca. 1648; d. Feb 1698/9.
viii. Samuel, b. ca. 1650; d. 7 Aug 1705.
ix. Timothy, b. ca. 1652; d. 1704.
x. Ruth, b. ca. 1654; d. at Haddam, 28 Nov 1744 ae. 90; m. Joseph Clark, whose will dated 24 Oct 1716 is recorded in Haddam Deeds (2:255), son of William.
xi. William, b. ca. 1656; d. 1731.
xii. Nathaniel, b. ca. 1658; d. before 1722.
xiii. Rebecca, b. ca. 1660; d. before 1706; m. (1) ca. 1682, John Kennard of Haddam, who d. 1688; m. (2) after Feb 1689, John Tanner.


Hannah died Oct 1692 in Connecticut Colony.[citation needed]

Research Notes

A discussion of her identity: Identity of Wife of Immigrant Gerard Spencer.[2]

Is she Hannah Hills? And, if she is, what is her ancestry? I have seen on quite a few web pages that folks are showing Hannah Hills. The 1950 series of articles in TAG on this family only identified her as Hannah ________, and even then, the author said he was quoting a previous published work, that he himself, had not seen any indication of where this given name came from. What is the source, or reasoning that this lady is our "mom"?

The Town of Haddam Web Page shows Hannah Hills as the daughter of William Hills. That name appears on the list of original settlers of Windsor, Conn. However, William Hills was treated by Anderson in The Great Migration Begins and mentions no daughter named Hannah. The Spencers of the Great Migration Begins shows Hannah Hills as the wife, but only cites the IGI as a source. I don't believe this IGI is from a vital record, or researchers would have unearthed it by now, so I don't give it much credibility at this point.

Conclusion thus far: No evidence she was a Hills.

Notes from Jacobus[1] Ensign Gerard(1) Spencer, baptized at Stotfold, Beds, England, 25 Apr 1614, died at Haddam, Conn., in 1685 (will 17 Sept 1683, proved 3 Sep 1685); married first, Hannah _____, who died before her husband made his will in 1683 and perhaps much earlier; perhaps married second, after 1677, Rebecca (Porter) Clark, baptized at Felsted, co. Essex, England, 16 Sep 1630, died 9 Jan 1682/3 (recorded at Saybrook), daughter of John and Anne (White) Porter of Windsor, and widow of John Clark of Saybrook.

Gerard settled in Lynn, Mass., later came to Hartford and thence to Haddam, Conn. There are several good accounts of him and his family in print, but some of them omit the daughter Sarah, proved by an undated deed in Haddam Deeds [1:49] given by "Steuen Backas with my wief Sarah of Norwich" to Daniel Brainerd of Haddam of one acre "that fell to us by portion of the estat of our fther Garrard Spencer."

The second marriage is suggested for Gerard because there was, by elimination, no other adult Spencer in Connecticut of proper age to be the widow Clark's husband (and unencumbered with a wife known to be living) except his brother Thomas, who was an older man and resident at a greater distance from Saybrook. Nevertheless, she may have been a third wife of Sergt. Thomas Spencer. All that the records disclose is that she died under the name of Spencer, and the loss of the early New London probate records where her estate was settled may leave it forever a matter of conjecture who her Spencer husband was. Gerard's will does not even name all his children, and lack of reference to a wife may be explained in either of two ways. A second wife may have been provided for by prenuptial agreement; or such a marriage may have occurred after the will was made.

Since the publication of Goodwin's Genealogical Notes in 1856, the early wife of Gerard who was mother of his children has always been named as Hannah.

The present compiler follows these authorities, though confessing that he has not seen an original or quoted contemporary record so naming her. Still, such a record may exist. The birth dates assigned to the children above are mostly guesses.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 The Four Spencer Brothers - Their Ancestors and Descendants, Donald Lines Jacobus, M.A., The American Genealogist, Vol 27 (April 1951), page 79.
  2. Spencer, Sources and Resources, Research Notes, Questions and Errata, Norris Taylor. [1]
  • New England marriages prior to 1700, Ancestry.com. (Requires $$), U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012. By Clarence Almon Torrey, Elizabeth Petty Bentley. Original data: Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004. (Images Attached.)
  • Genealogical gleanings in England, By Henry Fitz-Gilbert Waters. Attached.




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To echo Connie Mack's 2021 comment below, the death date shown in the data field above – "about 22 Oct 1692" – is simply incorrect: the Hannah Spencer whose death appears in the Hartford records ("SPENCER, SPENSER... Hannah, wife Jarret, died Oct __, 1692" – http://dunhamwilcox.net/barbour/hartford_barbour_s2.htm) was the wife of Gerard Spencer's nephew Jared (also spelled Jarret, Jarrett)... whose 1680 marriage also appears in the Hartford records ("Jarrett Spencer was married to Hannah Pratt, daughter of John Pratt Dec. 22, 1680. His wife died Oct. 1692." – https://www.americanancestors.org/DB522/i/21077/344/1429265333 [by subscription]). There is no reasonable question about any of this.

Gerard Spencer's first wife, believed to have been named Hannah, is not mentioned in Gerard's will or its codicil, a codicil that was added 3 September, 1685. Her death therefore can be said to have occurred prior to that date. I'm now making that correction.

posted by Christopher Childs
BTW note that Gerard's second marriage, to the widow Rebecca (Porter) Clark, is listed by Torrey as "aft 1677", not _in_ 1677, which is why we cannot with confidence say that Gerard's first wife died prior to that year.
posted by Christopher Childs
In reply to a couple of comments here, Pratt is the birth name of Hannah that married the nephew named Jerrad Spencer, son of Thomas Spencer who is brother of Gerard and also one of the immigrants. The sources that lead to that conclusion are included here. Gerard's bio says "Garrard's wife was Hannah. The date of his marriage is not known. He died in 1685, his will being presented for probate September 3 of that year. His wife must have died earlier for she is not mentioned in the will." But her death date is shown as October, 1692 and Find A Grave uses the same date. There is a source stating Hannah Spencer died October, 1692, Hartford. That Hannah Spencer was the daughter of John Pratt of Hartford and she married Gerrard's nephew, Jared, son of Thomas Spencer.<ref>Genealogical Notes: or, Contributions to the Family History of Some of the First Settlers of Connecticut and Massachusetts Goodwin, Nathaniel. G. United States: F.A. Brown, 1856. Pg 197, immigrant Jared and wife Hannah, no death date shown for Hannah. Pg 208 Hannah Pratt, wife of jared Spencer of Hartford, Conn.</ref><ref>Barbour, Lucius Barnes. Families of early Hartford, Connecticut. Malawi: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1977.Pg 558.</ref><ref>Barbour Collection Hartford, CT</ref><ref>

"Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (21 September 2019), Hannah Spencer, ; citing Death, , Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008143425.</ref>

posted by Connie Mack
Connie, the Goodwin book of 1856 gives no sources for its information (that I can see) and Barbour's transcript doesn't appear to give sufficient information to identify the individuals named. Are there other primary sources to substantiate Goodwin or further identify those named in Barbour?
posted by T Stanton
I'm sorry. I guess I wrote without sufficient evidence. Perhaps someone will take on this research project. I'm sorting out some Quakers right now. Thanks for pointing this out, T.
posted by Connie Mack
I see the last paragraph under Notes from Jacobus appears to be him writing. I haven't looked it up (read it some time ago) but I wonder if the bibliography for his article in The American Genealogist (Vol 27, 1951) mentions what sources he had been looking at. I would imagine he knew of the Barbour--I would be curious to know why he discounted that information as not being these people (or so it seems that he does).
posted by T Stanton
edited by T Stanton
While Christopher and I (eventually) tackle a rework of the Gerard Spencer profile, is there any objection to a major clean-up on his wife's profile? It presently starts with old rootsweb banter about Hannah Hill--something this project dispensed with long ago and should only be mentioned in a short statement or perhaps a disambiguation. The big sections of biographical material found here on Gerard should be found on his page, not hers, unless directly relevant to discussion of Hannah Unknown. Sources also need to be converted to inline and some broken links repaired. Any objections?
posted by T Stanton
Hi T & Christopher,

I would (as a direct descendant) appreciate it tremendously if you two would do clean-up, research, and biographic writing on this profile.

Is there anyone who would disagree with my suggestion? Project Leaders? This profile of my 9th great grandmother really needs help.

Thank you.

Cheryl, I have removed some of the quite confusing info on this profile into Research Notes. Some of it is old discredited hat (Hannah Hills), Jacobus notes he hasn't seen any primary sources even for her given name casting shade on the unsourced 1856 work of Goodwin. At this time, there doesn't appear to be enough known information about her to actually write a biographical profile. I am an 8th great grandchild.
posted by T Stanton
RE: Pratt That book is unfortunately unsourced, and offers no firm evidence that her name was Hannah Pratt. As noted in the bio, there have been suggestions that she may have been Hannah Hills, but that is also unproven, as no valid source can be found as of yet. Her name should remain unknown.
posted by Chris Hoyt
Hills-888 and Unknown-148821 do not represent the same person because: This is highly controversial. If Hannah Hills actually exists she may be the mother of only one or perhaps up to three of the children. NO MERGES!!! See the Nutmegger Vol 29 pp 592-615 for a discussion of this issue.
posted by Michael Spencer
Whoa! Hold on here. Where's the evidence for Hannah "Hill". This is a very old controversy and we need to proceed carefully with everything fully documented. In fact, it may be necessary to keep them separate. If there actually was a "Hannah Hills" she may have been the mother of less than half the total children.

NO MERGES YET!!!

posted by Michael Spencer
Unknown-148821 and Unk.-479 appear to represent the same person because: Hannah Unknown is no longer connected to William Hills as his daughter. Thank you for pointing out the discrepancy!
For one and a half years, we have discussed why Hannah is connected to William Hills as his daughter, and not one a single piece of evidence has been brought forth.

A skillful presentation of why Hills is not Hannah's last name at birth is embedded in the profile biography, and not a single sentence has been written to refute it.

Conclusion: Hannah's LNAB is not Hills. I am removing the connection.

Unk.-479 and Unknown-148821 are not ready to be merged because: If Hannah Unknown were the daughter of William Hill, the name could be changed; however, it remains controversial that she actually is the daughter of Hill so this merge can't take place until the father-daughter relationship is removed.
posted by Michael Spencer
Unk.-479 and Unknown-148821 appear to represent the same person because: they are same wife of Gerard Spencer. Unk. does not conform to WikiTree naming standards, so Unknown-148821 would be the correct final ID# by default. Thank you, April Dauenhauer
I am confused Robin Lee, WHY is William Hills listed as her father if there is no evidence substantiating this connection? Thank you for your consideration to resolve this matter, Renee Malloy
posted by Renee Malloy Esq
Her maiden name is Hill, it should be changed from unknown.
posted by Casey Clark

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