Thomas  Howard KB

Thomas Howard KB (1443 - 1524)

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Thomas "2nd Duke of Norfolk, 1st Earl of Surrey" Howard KB
Born in Stoke-by-Nayland, Suffolk, Englandmap
Husband of — married [location unknown]
Husband of — married [location unknown]
Died in Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk, Englandmap
5 May 2016
11:38: Kirk Hess edited the Biography for Thomas Howard KB. [Thank Kirk for this]
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Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk

b.1443 Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England.
d. 21 May 1524 at Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk
bur. 26 June 1524 at Thetford Abbey, Norfolk.


  • On 14 January 1478 he was created a Knight of the Bath (KB) by Edward IV at the marriage of the King's second son, the young Duke of York.[1]
  • 1st Earl of Surrey in 1483
  • 2nd Duke of Norfolk on 1 February 1514.

Early Life

p. John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Catherine Moleyns.


m.1 Elizabeth Tylney[2] 30 April 1472. Issue:
  • Edmund Howard+4 b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 19 Mar 1539
  • Admiral Sir Edward Howard b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 25 Apr 1513
  • Elizabeth Howard+ b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 3 Apr 1538
  • Marcella Howard+5 b. bt 1472 - 1497
  • Thomas Howard, 3rd Duke of Norfolk+ b. 1473, d. 25 Aug 1554
m.2 Agnes Tilney[3] 17 Aug 1497[4]. Issue:
  • Elizabeth Howard+6 b. bt 1497 - 1534, d. 18 Sep 1537
  • Lord Thomas Howard b. bt 1497 - 1545
  • Katharine Howard+ b. bt 1497 - 1545, d. c May 1554
  • Dorothy Howard+7 b. bt 1497 - 1545
  • Anne Howard b. bt 1497 - 1545
  • William Howard, 1st Baron Howard of Effingham+8 b. c 1510, d. 21 Jan 1572/73


Manor of Hooks and Pinnacles
"In 1449 William Say, clerk, John Say and Lawrence Cheyne his [father]-in-law (fn. 233) were listed as tenants of a group of manors including Hooks. (fn. 234) Sir John Say died in 1478 holding Hooks and Pinnacles of the Abbot of Waltham. (fn. 235) He was succeeded by his son Sir William. (fn. 236) In 1515 Robert Turbervyl, at the request of Sir William Say, granted this manor to Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk, steward of Waltham Forest during the minority of John de Vere, Earl of Oxford. (fn. 237) Dorothy, daughter and heir of Sir William Say, brought this manor to her husband William, Lord Mountjoy. (fn. 238) Their only daughter Gertrude married Henry Courtenay, Marquess of Exeter, in 1519, and the manor subsequently came into Exeter's possession. (fn. 239) In 1539 he was attainted and this manor was forfeit to the Crown. (fn. 240)"[5]


  1. The Knights of England p. 138
  2. p. Frederick Tylney and Elizabeth Cheney
  3. father: Hugh Tilney
  4. Duke also reported to m. 17 Aug 1487
  5. 'Waltham Holy Cross: Introduction and manors,' in A History of the County of Essex: Volume 5, ed. W R Powell (London: Victoria County History, 1966), 151-162, accessed March 16, 2016, [1]
  • Caroline Maubois, "re: Penancoet Family," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 2 December 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Penancoet Family."
  • G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 253
  • Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume II, page 153.
  • Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VIII, page 61, 521
  • L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 9.
  • Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd edn. (2011), 3 vols, Volume 2, page 274, HOWARD 12.
  • Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd edn. (2011), 4 vols, Volume 2, page 414, HOWARD 11.

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On March 23, 2016 at 02:58GMT Donnie Blackstone wrote:

Howard -2 is Blackstone -170 15th great grandfather can someone add my DNA 23andme to his profile please, Thanks

On November 22, 2014 at 22:21GMT Vic Watt wrote:


On November 22, 2014 at 19:31GMT Cynthia B wrote:

Is everyone OK with deleting all this Wikipedia cut & paste, (so we can write him an original biography)?

On November 4, 2014 at 04:05GMT Doug Lockwood wrote:

On June 20, 2014 at 05:15GMT Bob Fields wrote:

Howard-2 and Howard-1949 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth and death dates, wife, and daughter. Howard-2 is PPP.

On April 14, 2014 at 04:07GMT Andrew Bassett-Smith wrote:

Howard-Arundell-1 and Howard-2 do not represent the same person because: obviously not a match - sorry

On December 8, 2013 at 14:51GMT Cheryl Caudill wrote:

Based on the biography, Bob is correct and I agree with Jacques on the profile situation.

On December 8, 2013 at 07:23GMT J Pictet wrote:

I propose to use this profile for Thomas 2nd, as Thomas 3rd already has a profile:

I changed the dates, but the other information has to be checked.

On December 8, 2013 at 06:40GMT Bob Fields wrote:

Wikipedia says his father was Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk, not John Howard (as listed in this profile). I didn't see an existing John Howard 1443 – 21 May 1524 to connect as father. Do we have to create a new one? See,_3rd_Duke_of_Norfolk. The picture here is actually Thomas Howard II, so it looks like father and sone were accidentally merged.

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