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Philip Huff (abt. 1747 - aft. 1822)

Philip Huff aka Hoff, Hoof [uncertain]
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Husband of — married about 1765 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 75 in Montgomery, Virginia, United Statesmap
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Biography

Philip HUFF (c 1747 place unknown - 1822/23 Montgomery (now Floyd) County, Virginia) made his will 25 Jul 1822 and it was probated in the Feb 1823 court of Montgomery County, Virginia. He made his mark to the will which was written as HUFF. Neither Philip's year nor place of birth are known, nor are his parents or possible siblings known at this time. However, the Y-DNA results of a paternal descendant (Haplogroup of Q-M242) matches dozens of descendants of the New Amsterdam Hoffs, many of whom later moved to New Jersey and from there, located elsewhere. Some resided for a time in Loudoun County, Virginia, according to historian and researcher Granville Hough. Those mentioned by Granville that were originally from NJ include James Huff, Charles Huff or Hoff, Moses Hough or Huff, Theophilus Huff, John Huff, William Hough and Anthony Hough. Philip is likely related to at least some of these individuals, based on both Y-DNA matches and tax or other records.

Philip was in Loudoun County, Virginia, as a taxpayer in the 1760s into the 1770s, along with Benjamin Huff.[1] and Ruth HUFF and their sons and sons-in-law. A Henry HUFF[2] and a Thomas HUFF were also in Loudoun County, earlier, with Benjamin HOOF. One would assume that Philip HUFF (or HOFF) was part of that group, but there is no record that this was the case. In addition, there were multiple Philips and Benjamins in Loudoun County, and clearly identifying which ones were which is difficult to impossible. It appears likely that the HUFF families came to Loudoun County, Virginia, from Maryland, Pennsylvania, or New Jersey, or had family ties to those areas.

Philip moved to the southwest frontier in Virginia, as did Benjamin and Ruth HUFF. They show up near one another on records of the 1780s era, indicating they lived close to each other. They clearly settled among other HUFF families who may have already been established in the Bent Mountain / Head of Little River area (present day Copper Hill P.O., Floyd County) of southwest Virginia.[3]

Philip HUFF married Rachel (c 1746/50 - alive when Philip did his will in 1822), thought by some to be a daughter of Robert JACKSON. Other sources show Thomas JACKSON or John JACKSON as her father, but the evidence for any of these names is not known. Philip and Rachel may have married in Loudoun County, Virginia; but there is no record there in the surviving records of one of the two parishes of the county. It is assumed Rachel was Philip's only wife. So far as is known, Philip moved directly from Loudoun County, Virginia, to Botetourt County, Virginia, where he settled in a part that later fell in Montgomery County, and finally in 1831, became part of present-day Floyd County, Virginia. He was in Botetourt County by 1780, when he and Benjamin HUFF contributed goods to the Revolutionary War cause.

Death and Will

In his 1822 will, Philip listed all his surviving children as: Daniel HUFF; William HUFF; Sarah WALKER; Philip HUFF; Nancy MILLER; Elcey SNUFFER; John HUFF; Samuel HUFF; Henry HUFF; and James HUFF. All received $1.00 except James, who was to receive the residue of Philip's property, except one-third which was to be for wife Rachel as long as she lived. Witnesses were: Benjamin REED; Henry SHOCKEY; and Peter DEWESE (sic, DEWEESE). One son, Absalom, died before Philip, and no heirs of Absalom were mentioned in Philip's will. It appears that no son was old enough to take part in the Revolutionary War. No record has been found for Rachel's death, but there is suggestive evidence in estate inventories that she went to live with daughter Nancy (HUFF) MILLER in Tennessee.

Feb Court 1823: Montgomery Co VA Court Records book 3, p. 484: Will of Philip Huff: In the name of God, Amen. Whereas I Philip Huff of Montgomery Co VA, now do find myself very weak in body but find my perfect mind and Common senses and knowing that this body must be laid in the grave, I wish to make my last will and testament, that is after my body is laid in the Grave and my soul to the God who gave it to me, I do dispose of my real and personal estate as follows: to wit: That is I give and bequeath to my beloved son Daniel Huff $1.00 And to my son William Huff I give $1.00 And to my daughter Sally (Sarah) Walker I give $1.00 And to my son Phillip Huff I give $1.00 And to my daughter Nancy Miller I give $1.00 And to my daughter Elcey Snuffer I give $1.00 And to my son John Huff I give $1.00 And to my son Samuel Huff I give $1.00 And to my son Henry Huff I give $1.00 And to my son James Huff I give all the residue of my estate both real and personal. To my beloved Rachel Huff I give the 3rd part of my whole estate both real and personal to have and to hold so long as she lives, and all the balance of my estate I give to my son James Huff, both land and property of every description, and all other wills, Gifts or deeds I do thereby disannul and to away with and this is my last will and testamony shall stand and no other, and I do also make my trusted friend and beloved son James Huff my executor. Signed, sealed and delivered in presence of us this 25th day of July 1822. Phillip (X) Huff (Seal); witnesses: Benjamin Reed, Henry Shockey, Peter Dewese. John Robinson, Commissioner for the upper dist. of Botetourt Co (now lower part of Montgomery Co)

Children

  1. Daniel HUFF (c 1766 Virginia - 27 Dec 1853 Clinton County, Kentucky). Robert A. HUFF recorded Daniel's wife as Elizabeth TURMAN. No other record has been identified although family legend has it that Daniel's brother, Philip, met and married Jemima TURMAN due to the family relationship. Available records show that one Daniel, likely a different one, was appointed Constable for Capt David EDDING's Company of Montgomery Co, Virginia, Militia on 5 May 1790. There appears also to have been a Daniel HOFF of Franklin County, who married Hannah HALE, who was once suggested to have been this Daniel. However, Daniel HOFF of Franklin County is now not believed to be the same person as Daniel HUFF of Montgomery County.[4] In 1791-1793, Daniel, Philip, John, and a Leonard HUFF were on tax list N of Montgomery County, formerly the John ROBINSON district of Botetourt County, described as on the upper reaches of the Roanoke River and Little River. Daniel and his brother Philip probably moved soon afterwards to Jefferson County, Tennessee, along with members of the TURMAN family and likely others. Daniel went on to Kentucky by 1799, where he was a pioneer on the Cumberland River. He was a Lieutenant and Captain in the Cumberland Militia (46th Kentucky Regiment) and a member of Clear Fork Baptist Church. He may have married more than once but no other wives are known. One or more possibilities have been suggested that seem doubtful. Children appear to have included: Philip HUFF (the eldest); Daniel HUFF; Hawkins Quarles "Qualls" HUFF; Rachel HUFF; Lewis HUFF; Dinelia HUFF; and possibly others.
  2. William HUFF (c 1768 Virginia - unknown probably in Clinton County, Kentucky) on 2 Feb 1791 in Franklin County, Virginia took out a bond to marry Lydia MILLER (c 1771 Virginia - ), possible daughter (or at least a close relative) of a Thomas MILLER, with Samuel WILSON as security. The marriage would likely have occurred shortly after the bond was issued. Samuel WILSON took out a marriage bond the same day, with William HUFF as security. William moved to that part of Cumberland County, Kentucky, which later became Clinton County. Children included: Elizabeth HUFF; William HUFF, Jr; Zilpha HUFF; Daniel HUFF; Sarah HUFF; Lewis HUFF; Abner HUFF; David HUFF; Euthless HUFF; Thomas HUFF; and Pleasant H. HUFF. Daughter Zilpha (HUFF) FERGUSON was the mother of Champ FERGUSON, a notorious guerilla leader of the Civil War who, after the war, was tried and hung for his crimes. The trial was a sensational media event and was covered in detail in the New York Times.
  3. Philip HUFF (c 1771 Virginia - unknown year and location). What is known is that Philip went to Jefferson County, Tennessee, as did his brothers Daniel and John, and then to Cumberland County, Kentucky, where he was a taxpayer by 1797. On 1 Feb 1796 in Jefferson County, Tennessee, he married Jemima "Mima" TURMAN. In May 1797, he was appointed guardian of someone named THURMAN (source? coincidence or spelling variation possible, but THURMAN would unlikely to have been related to his wife Mima, as Y-DNA testing has indicated that TURMANs and THURMANs were NOT genetically related, as previously surmised to have been a possibility), who was entered into bond with Thomas GRAY, Esq, as his security. Years later, there was said to have been a divorce case of Philip HUFF vs Jemima HUFF, and a family tradition of 10 or 12 children may refer to this family. Names of the children have not been recovered. (There were at least three Philip HUFF families in the general vicinity of Cumberland County, Kentucky, and in the past, they have at times been conflated of misidentified one for another. For example, it has been said that Robert HUFF indicated that Philip HUFF married Maria JACKSON, daughter of Isaac and Elizabeth (HOWELL) JACKSON, and had ten children. It is unlikely that this could refer to the Philip that is the subject of this profile. Supposedly there was a Philip HUFF, Jr who married Maria JACKSON (date and source?) who may have been son of Philip and Jemima (TURMAN) HUFF, rather than the elder Philip. Another Philip HUFF married Margaret SNUFFER; that Philip was a nephew of this Philip, a son of Daniel HUFF, and died in or before 1826 in Monroe County, Indiana. Yet another Phillip HUFF lived farther afield in Wayne County, Kentucky, until his died. Wayne County Phillip was too young to be in Cumberland County by 1797. He was born c 1785 in Virginia, married Hannah SPENCER and had probably had children Elizabeth; Minerva; Sarah Catherine; William; and possibly children Phillip; Robert M.; and George W.
  4. Sarah "Sally" HUFF (c 1774 Virginia - between 1850 and 1860 Franklin County, Virginia) is shown on the 1822 will as Sarah WALKER (second marriage). Sarah married on 13 Jun 1793 in Franklin County, Virginia (1) Theodorick Webb, born Theodorick Fitzgerald, a step-son of Jacob Webb of Franklin County, Virginia. She married in about 1811 (2) George C. Walker (3 Jun 1781 Franklin County, Virginia - 19 Apr 1871 Long Branch/Endicott, Franklin County, Virginia), son of Joel Walker and Sarah (Bowen) Walker. WEBB children included: Nancy WEBB; Jane WEBB; Ursula WEBB; Theodorick WEBB; Creed WEBB; and Bird WEBB. In 1811, widow Sally WEBB married (2) George C. WALKER, with Wilson TURNER performing the ceremony. They had one child, Adeline WALKER, who married Harvey CLAYTOR in 1830.
  5. Elcey HUFF (Ailsie on her gravestone) (3 Jul 1776 Loudoun County, Virginia - 8 Mar 1855 Raleigh County, then Virginia; in 1863 Raleigh County became a part of West Virginia), on 3 Jul 1798 in Montgomery County, Virginia, married George SNUFFER, Jr (25 Oct 1777 - 26 Nov 1858 Raleigh County, then Virginia; in 1863 Raleigh County became a part of West Virginia), son of George and Mary (WIRT) SNUFFER (the previous or historical family surname was SCHNAUFFER). Philip HUFF and George SNUFFER were sureties. The noted German Baptist Brethren (Dunker) Elder, Jacob MILLER, performed the ceremony. They had some nine children: Theodorick "Theodore" SNUFFER; Sarah "Sally" Owen SNUFFER; Ursley SNUFFER; Evaline SNUFFER; Cyrus SNUFFER; Lucinda SNUFFER; Elvira SNUFFER; and George Thomas SNUFFER. They moved in 1822 to Wyeth County, Virginia, and sold Montgomery County land to Mary DEWEESE. In 1829, they moved to what is now Raleigh County, West Virginia and settled near the present community of Bolt, near the Wyoming County line.
  6. Nancy HUFF (c 1781 Virginia - death not known, likely between 1840 and 1850 Pall Mall, Fentress County, Tennessee) married Pearson MILLER after the 11 Dec 1797 permission from her father who requested the Franklin County Clerk to issue a license, the marriage bond dated 4 Dec 1797 in Franklin County, Virginia, with Thomas MILLER as surety. Family tradition claims that Pearson MILLER had gone to Kentucky as a bachelor, and that he cooked on a fire shovel and ate from a terrapin shell on his claim there. He returned to Virginia, where he spent the night with the Philip HUFF family. There he saw Nancy and proposed marriage the next morning. They left with a horse and a feather bed which served as a saddle for Nancy. Pearson walked ahead with a rifle gun. They settled first in Stockton Valley, where in 1799 they had 100 acres of land on Spring Creek and 2 livestock. They moved soon afterwards to Three Forks of Wolf River, in that part of Overton County, Tennessee, which was later to become part of Fentress County, Tennessee. They had some eleven MILLER children: Absolum MILLER; Armstead MILLER; James MILLER; Abner MILLER; Alsie MILLER; Pleasant MILLER; William MILLER; Polly MILLER; Deliala MILLER; Nancy MILLER; and Sally MILLER. Pearson was quite portly in later years, while Nancy was very thin. This made for much family comment. Pearson MILLER made his will 6 Aug 1850 and it was recorded 12 Jul 1867 (Fentress County Will Book A:199-201). (As a historical note, in 1858 in Fentress County, Tennessee, James, William, and Pleasant MILLER furnished $3000 bond for the appearance in court of their cousin, Champ FERGUSON, who had been charged with the murder of James REED, Deputy Sheriff of Fentress County, at a church meeting on Wolf River. It is clear that Champ FERGUSON had a bad reputation before the Civil War.)
  7. John HUFF (c 1783 Virginia - after 1860 and before 6 Dec 1866 Fentress County, Tennessee) lived near Pearson and Nancy (HUFF) MILLER. He married (1) Prudence "Nancy" CHISM, who died before 1850. Nancy CHISM's maiden name was previously tentatively suggested as possibly to have been MILLSAP and while this appears on some family trees, this guess now appears unlikely. Children probably were Wylie HUFF; Alexander HUFF; Claburn B. HUFF; Preston HUFF; Cela HUFF; Didama HUFF; Martha HUFF; Nelly HUFF; Pamelia HUFF (1); Pamelia HUFF (2)?; and Matilda HUFF. In addition to these, census records indicate the possibility of additional children or relatives such as nieces and nephews: Nancy HUFF; John HUFF; James HUFF; Permelia HUFF (rather than Pamelia); and Henry HUFF. About 1850, John married (2) Cyrena Ann "Cyrene" SALLEE (May 1815 Kentucky - 1910 Texas), who in 1845 had divorced Milton Barnes ELLIOTT. Cyrena had four children from her previous marriage. She and John's children were: Thomas Branchford "Branch" HUFF (previously various names as guesses included Ransome, Branscomb, and perhaps others); Florence HUFF; and Diane HUFF. At one time, John HUFF owned land in Monroe County, Indiana, but unlikely ever lived there, although HUFFs of the next generation located there.
  8. Samuel "Sam" HUFF (c 1785 Virginia - after 1840, possibly in southern Mississippi) on 2 May 1804 in Montgomery County, Virginia, married Anne WILEY, daughter of Alexander WILEY, with George SNUFFER and Henry HUFF as security. They moved by 1810 to Cumberland County, Kentucky, apparently to a part of Cumberland that later became Clinton County. Before 1820, this Samuel HUFF was one of 8 trustees in the founding of the town of Paoli, KY. The area of Paoli is now part of Albany, present county seat of Clinton County, Kentucky. It appears that Samuel moved to Jackson County, Alabama, in the 1820 decade. One known child was Alanson HUFF of Tishomingo County, Mississippi, and other likely sons were H. Mathew HUFF and James Elias HUFF (went by Elias) of Coahoma County, Mississippi. Elias HUFF went on to Arkansas. Names of other possible children are not known at present.
  9. Henry HUFF (c 1787, someone has claimed 15 Jan 1786? in what was or became Montgomery County and in 1831 Floyd County, Virginia - 20 Mar 1877) on 5 Jun 1811 in Montgomery County, Virginia, married Rachel JACKSON[5] (6 June 1789 Montgomery (now Floyd) County, Virginia - before 1860), daughter of Robert and Betty (ESOM) JACKSON (Book A:130). Alexander WILEY was surety. Their children are also listed as born in Montgomery, now Floyd, County, Virginia. Children included Esom HUFF; Jackson HUFF; Robert King(probably was not a son, but was listed on a census??); Nancy Ann HUFF; Isaac Henry HUFF; Wilson HUFF; Byrd HUFF; Lydia HUFF; and Jane HUFF. He was possibly--but probably not--the Henry HUFF referred to as "the spotted Dutchman" (because of facial mottling and coloration), although the rest of the description does not fit and there were likely multiple Henrys in the general vicinity to whom this may have applied.
  10. Absalom HUFF (c 1790 Virginia - will probated May 1817 Montgomery County, Virginia) lived in Montgomery, now Floyd, County, Virginia, and apparently was unmarried. He left his estate to his father Philip, his mother, and brother James. He had been in court in 1812 for fighting.
  11. James HUFF (c 1794 Virginia - after 1850) was willed the residue of Philip HUFF's estate. Previously, his brother, Absalom HUFF, had also left James part of his estate. James HUFF married Stacy LITTRELL (also may be recorded as LITTERAL, LITTERALL, LUTTRELL, etc.) on 8 May 1814 in Montgomery County (Book A:146). Thomas LITTERAL, father of Stacy, was shown as surety. They lived in a part of Montgomery County that became Floyd County in 1831. They were enumerated there through 1850. They had four daughters: Sarah "Sally" HUFF; Mary Lucy "Polly" HUFF; Nancy HUFF; and Catherine HUFF.

Notes

The proximity of a Philip HUFF (or HOFF) to Benjamin and Ruth HUFF (or HOOF or HOFF) in Loudoun County, Virginia, and subsequent proximity in Botetourt and Montgomery counties, in southwest Virginia, suggests a relationship which has not been determined. The association of the two with Henry HUFF of Bedford County is similarly unclear, but it also must be considered.

We now know from Y-DNA test results from a descendant of Philip, that the haplogroup matches other relatives or descendants of Dirck Pauluszen, who assumed the surname Hoff in about 1700. This confirms the assumptions of Granville Hough in his 1978 book. However, other information appears to negate the notion of Philip having been a son of either Leonard Huff or Benjamin Huff who lived in near proximity at the Bent Mountain settlement. (Clarification: In his 1978 book, Granville Hough wrote, "Philip was not of the Quaker families but possibly relative to Solomon, Henry, Gabriel, Lowry, George and Phillip Jr. New Jersey Huff families resided for some time in Loudoun County. James Huff, Charles Huff or Hoff, Moses Hough or Huff, Theophilus Huff, John Huff, William Hough and Anthony Hough are all likely from NJ." )

Timeline

From tax lists, censuses, and other documents: (work, locating citations, review of documents, may still be in progress as of Jun 2022)

1771: Loudoun County, Virginia. Tithable List [6]

Philip Hoff was listed as were Benjamin Hoff and Joseph Hoff, Joshua Wilson (spouse of Catherine or Elizabeth), and Cornelius Reed (spouse of Sarah), the latter two being sons-in-law of Benjamin Hoff.

c 1780: Botetourt County, Virginia

Philip Huff furnished services to Rev. War effort, as did Benjamin Huff. A John Huff and a Joseph Huff contributed at other times or places. (Stoner: A Seed Bed of the Republic: Botetourt.) According to Virginia "publick" claims. Botetourt County, compiled and transcribed by Janice L Abercrombie and Richard Slatten from original Revolutionary Claims in the Library of Virginia, Virginia State Library. Archives Division. [Athens, Ga. : [New Papyrus Publishing], [2005]. Originally published: Athens, Ga. : Iberian Pub. Co., 1992. pp 29, 31, 33, lists Benjamin Hoff, Philip Hoff, and Thomas Wilson as contributing to Commissioners Lockhart and Ward in 1780/81. The Oct 1782 court showed Philip Huff was paid 16s, 8p for 100 pounds of flour [Philip was a miller] that had been for the militia, and Benjamin Huff paid 16s for a blanket.

1782 land grant, documented 1 Jun 1796: Philip Huff was the grantee, and the grantor was the Commonwealth, granting 275 acres on the head waters of Little River near the County Line adjoining that of Leonard Huff. It was granted to Philip 4 Mar 1782. The document does specify the land as in Botetourt County, as it then was in 1782, but this was Philip's land in what became Montgomery County, Virginia, when that portion of Botetourt County was transferred to Montgomery County in 1790.[7]

1782-1788: (then) Botetourt (later Montgomery) County, Virginia. Tax List

Philip Hoff (Huff). Also listed were: Daniel Hoff, William Hoff and Thomas Hoof.
A different Philip, but listed in Loudoun County during this time period (to distinguish between the two Philips for other timeline events, compare the Philip Hoff profile at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hoff-2239):
1785 Loudoun County Titheable: Philip Hough, possibly near? Mahlon Hough, James Hoff, Charles Hoff. This was likely a different Philip, likely the Philip who married Rosina Feuerstein.
A different Philip, but listed in Loudoun County during this time period (to distinguish between the two Philips for other timeline events, compare the Philip Hoff profile at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hoff-2239):
1786 Loudoun County, Virginia, one Philip Huff (Hough) was listed in the 1786 tax list for Loudoun County, Virginia. This was almost certainly a different Philip, likely the Philip who married Rosina Feuerstein.

1787: (then) Botetourt County, Virginia (This part of Botetourt County was transferred to Montgomery County in 1790.)

Phillip Huff was in Capt Martin's Company tax list at Bent Mountain. He was on the tax list near Leonard Huff. Phillip's hh incl two males, 16 to 21, of military age.

1787: (then) Botetourt County, Virginia (This part of Botetourt County was transferred to Montgomery County in 1790.) (citation/reexamination needed)

In the April Court, Phillip Huff was appointed overseer of the road in place of Jesse Chamblin.

1788: (then) Botetourt County, Virginia (citation/reexamination needed)

Phillip on the tax list for the (soon to be?) newly formed Montgomery County.

1789: (then) Botetourt County, Virginia (citation/reexamination needed)

Philip Huff was on 1789PersonalC tax list along with Leonard Huff and a John Huff who may have been John Huff, a son of Benjamin Huff (although there were several John Huffs in the general area during the same time frame.)
Likely a different Philip, but listed during this time period (to distinguish between the two Philips for other timeline events, compare the Philip Hoff profile at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hoff-2239)::
1789 Loudoun County, Virginia
A Philip Hough (probably not the same as the Philip of Botetourt County, Virginia). A Henry Hough was also on 1789PersonalB tax list. Loudoun Co, VA. [8]

1790: Montgomery County, Virginia, July Court

Philip Huff was appointed surveyor of the road from the Crossroads to Bent Mountain.

1792: Montgomery County, Virginia

Philip Huff on 1792PersonalC tax list. Also on the list were John Huff and Daniel Huff.
1792: Montgomery County, Virginia. One Mary Huff was also on 1792PersonalC tax list. Possible relative, or spouse or widow of a relative.

1796: The 1782 Commonwealth land grant to Philip Huff of 275 acres on the head waters of Little River was documented.[9]

1803: Montgomery County, Virginia

Philip Huff was a deed grantee (needs source and to be examined)

1810: Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia [this was a census collection location, not a residence location.][10] Note: near Jackson, Snuffer families.

Philip Huff 00301-00001 on pg 634.
  • Also appearing on the 1810 census: Mary Huff (family of 4), John Huff (family of 1), Samuel Huff, Joseph Huff (family of 8)
  • 1810[11]: Christiansburg, Montgomery County, Virginia. Joseph Huff 41010-10100 on pg 651. Possible relative? This may have been Joseph Huff.
1810Christiansburg, Montgomery County, Virginia[12]
Mary Huff 00010-01101. On same page as Joseph Huff.
  • 1810: Christiansburg, Montgomery County, Virginia.[13]
John Huff on pg 653. Unlikely to have been the John who was Philip's son, who had migrated to Kentucky/Tennessee years prior to 1810.
  • 1810: census taken out of Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia[14]

Saml Huff on pg 668. Possibly but may not have been his son. His son, Samuel, may have migrated to Kentucky/Tennessee by this year.

1815/1816: Montgomery County, Virginia

Will and probate for deceased son, Absalom Huff (Will Book 2:231, 370).

1820: out of Blacksburg, Montgomery County, Virginia (does not indicate residence in Blacksburg and appears to be an rough alphabetical listing, probably including those from the rural areas)[15] Note: Listed on the enumeration near William Huff, Samuel Huff Sr, Samuel Huff Jr, Francis Huff. The previous page lists Samuel G Huff and John Huff. Next page lists Sarah Litteral. Note also: Philip was NOT resident in Blacksburg. It appears that the census was recorded out of the near-by town and included the rural area around it.

Philip Huff 000010-00001 (There may be a mistake in copying the age for Phillip.) Samuel Huff Jr and William Huff on same census page.

Comparison to Ancestry.com[16] info still needed/being worked on, as the use of ditto marks may have affected the outcome.

Name: Philip Huff
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Blacksburg, Montgomery, Virginia
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820

Free White Persons - Males - 0 thru 9: Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 18: Free White Persons - Males - 16 thru 25:

Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44:

Free White Persons - Males - 45 and older: Free White Persons - Females - Under 10: 1? Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: Free White Persons - Females - 26 thru 44: Free White Persons - Under 16:

Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over: 1
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 1
Free White Persons - Over 25: 2
Total Free White Persons: 2
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 2

1822/1823 Montgomery County, Virginia

Will and probate record for Philip Huff (Book 6 N, p 298). Robert A. Huff cited the 1822 will to be Book 3, page 484, and the 29 Mar 1823 appraisement to be Book 3, page 508.

Was Philip a Quaker?

This Philip Huff was unlikely a Quaker. However, it remains possible that he was a pacifist and may have been a German Baptist Brethren (Dunker).

A Daughters of the American Revolution application was made by Helen Boston Cooper. Helen Boston Cooper was in error, as she was a descendant of a different Philip, the one from Wayne County, Kentucky.

DAR application information was: (citation and review needed)
SDAR Patriot Ancestor #A057318, with children Henry (married Rachael [sic, Rachel] Jackson) and Elsey (married George Snuffer).
Among other things, the application alleged that: As a Quaker [this claim of religion was unsubstantiated and very unlikely], Philip Huff, was exempt from armed participation in any kind of war; but he was permitted by the tenets of his faith to give non-combative support, which he chose to do... He supplied food, horses, wagons & drivers (often himself) for the Continental Troops. His name is listed in THE PATRIOT INDEX of the DAR with the designation "PS" (public service). From DAR records and personal description

The Philip Huff, subject of this profile, was not the ancestor of the applicant in the DAR books, as the information conflated two different Philips and the applicant was a descendant of a different Philip Huff. Some of the information submitted could have been appropriate to this Philip; however, in general the information seems to have been unreliable.

Notes

Helen Huff Schuck, then of Bloomington IN, filled in this family in a letter dated 26 Jan 1988. She may have been the source of Daniel's wife's name. [I believe I have a copy of that letter, which did not specify Rachel's maiden name. However, I have also heard elsewhere, from people with long-ago memories, who thought my aunt Helen was the source of Rachel's maiden name. If so, it was just a possibility being considered. Helen did not think Jackson was certain to have been Rachel's maiden name, according to the marginal note "Jackson?" on one of her family group sheet. Instead, she suspected that maiden name to have come from a snail mail look-up request gone wrong, where information regarding a younger Philip who married Rachel Jackson had been supplied. Barb Huff]
1790?: Daniel Huff; John Huff; Leonard Huff; Phillip Huff.[17]

Sources

  1. Two or more of Benjamin HUFF's ch are said to have spelled their names as HOUGH, and their record of Benjamin and Ruth showed their name as HOUGH.
  2. If the family of Henry is correctly identified, both he and Philip repeated the names Philip and Henry among their children.
  3. Among other possible relatives, a Henry HUFF moved into Bedford County, Virginia. One Robert JACKSON, thought by some to be father-in-law to Philip HUFF, was also in Loudoun County, Virginia, and said to have moved to southwest Virginia, but was not living among the HUFF group.
  4. This Daniel, of Montgomery County, was unlikely the same person as the Daniel HOFF who married in Franklin County, Virginia on 30 Aug 1790, Hannah HALE, daughter of John HALE. William HOFF was surety and Rev. Randolph HALL performed that ceremony. A Daniel HOFF had previously witnessed the marriage of Adam RUNNING to Rachel WRIGHT on 21 Sep 1788 in Franklin County, with Rev. Randolph HALL performing the ceremony.
  5. "Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR8N-D99 : 11 February 2018), Philip Huff in entry for Henry Huff and Rachel Jackson, 05 Jun 1811; citing Montgomery County, Virginia, reference P 130; FHL microfilm 32,633.
  6. STILL NEEDS TO BE LOCATED & VIEWED: "Loudoun County, Virginia, 1771 Tithable List," by Pollyanna Creekmore. Virginia Genealogist. Philip Hoff, page 417; Benjamin Hoff, page; 417 and Joseph Hoff, page 417, 418, 427; Joshua Wilson, various possible pages 29, 35, 37, 38, 104, 166, 169, 217, 278, 399, 547, 564, 569, 595, 622, 711, 715, 720, 734, 783, 856, 872, 918, 919; and Cornelius Reed, page not found in online index. volume and year unknown, should be some year well after vol. 18, 1974. May be available at FHL; digital version at American Ancestors by NEHGS (membership required); held by various public and other libraries.
  7. Land grant 1 June 1796. Huff, Philip. grantee. Land Office Grants No. 33, 1795-1796, p. 632 (Reel 99). The collection of recorded copies of grants issued by the Virginia Land Office is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. Online version is at https://lva.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/01LVA_INST/altrmk/alma990007734640205756
  8. Binns Genealogy 1790 Tax List Census, Last updated 9/11/2010. 1789PersonalB 09. http://66.49.194.143/VirginiaTaxListCensuses/1790index/1790H-index12.htm. Note: Web location does not appear to be working properly as of May 2022. Loudoun County, Virginia Taxation lists various sources of tax and related information. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Loudoun_County,_Virginia_Taxation
  9. https://lva.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/01LVA_INST/altrmk/alma990007734640205756
  10. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH28-92T : accessed 9 October 2018), Philip Huff, Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. 634, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 181,430.
  11. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH28-SSS : accessed 14 July 2019), Joseph Huff, Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. 651, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 181,430.
  12. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH28-S9R : accessed 14 July 2019), Mary Huff, Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. 651, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 181,430.
  13. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH28-S33 : accessed 14 July 2019), John Huff, Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. 653, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 181,430.
  14. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH28-SDY : accessed 14 July 2019) Saml Huff, Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. 668, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 70; FHL microfilm 181,430.
  15. "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLC-HFM : accessed 9 October 2018), Philip Huff, Blacksburg, Montgomery, Virginia, United States; citing p. , NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 130; FHL microfilm 193,689.
  16. 1820 United States Federal Census. https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/16635:7734?tid=&pid=&queryId=5e4ef70ff6278260866f748cfd1eec34&_phsrc=TrM95&_phstart=successSource
  17. Chart sent by Granville Hough. This is from Jack Ferguson, Early Times in Clinton County (KY), Vol. 1, pages 124 and 125, "The Huff Family." Granville added notes in his handwriting.
  • Granville W. Hough, "Hough and Huff Families of the United States, 1620-1820: The Southeast", Hertitage Books, Copyright 1972, republished 2000.
  • F. B. Kegley, Kegley's Virginia Frontier...1740-1783, 1938, p 561 for Phillip, p 600 for Samuel, and p 601 for Henry. L. P. Summers, Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769-1800, 1929, pp 420, 829 for Phillip, and p 828 for Daniel.
  • Historic Roads of Virginia: Montgomery County Road Orders 1777 - 1806, by

Betty E. Spillman and Shirley P. Thomas for the New River Historical Society and Ann Brush Miller, Senior Research Scientist, Virginia Transportation Research Council. 2007-2008. https://www.virginiadot.org/vtrc/main/online_reports/pdf/08-r14.pdf

  • Research by Helen Huff Schuck (1903 IN - 1997 TX)
  • Amos D. Woods, Floyd County, VA, A History of Its People and Places. Henry Huff, son of Philip, and his family, pp 109-111,
  • Wingate, "Marriage Bonds of Franklin Co, VA," marriages of Daniel, William, and Sarah.
  • Granville Hough, Max Huff, "Phillip and Rachel Hoff of VA", 4/17/95
  • Chart sent by Granville Hough, from Jack Ferguson, Early Times in Clinton County (KY), Vol. 1, pages 124 and 125, "The Huff Family." Granville added notes in his handwriting. (This item has not been viewed by current profile writer.)

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  • Other Sources Note (regarding "mystery"/unavailable source): Robert A. HUFF, deceased, a descendant who lived in Albany, Clinton County, Kentucky, collected information on descendants in this family. In 1972, he purportedly photocopied several copies for close family members under a title which may have been PHILIP HOFF, DESCENDANTS OF CUMBERLAND CO, KY. The title apparently was meant to refer to the descendants of this Philip Huff, and was not meant to indicate that this Philip had himself migrated to Cumberland County. Citing sources may not actually have ever seen Robert Allen Huff's work, but rather be referring to a reference to it that they may found in Early Times in Clinton County [Kentucky], by Jack Ferguson.
    • Anyone have a copy of this work? Or be able to locate a copy? I'd be glad to transcribe it and be able to share it! more widely than the few close relatives for whom apparently a copy was made, that perhaps got tucked away, and maybe still exists on a bookshelf or in some dusty box. Unless Robert Allen Huff was a highly unusual family historian, it's very likely that he would have been thrilled to have ANY other Huffs and relatives, etc. be interested in his work! and would have been delighted to have it shared! -Barb Huff, contact huff500 at gmail.com
COUNTY DESCRIPTION
Montgomery County is located in Southwestern Virginia between the Blue Ridge and Appalachian Mountains. The western portion of the county is drained by the New River and the eastern portion is drained by the headwaters of the Roanoke River. Presently the county contains 395 square miles.
Before presenting a general history of Montgomery County, it is helpful to outline the history of the county itself as a political unit, from before its formation in 1776 to the fixing of its present form in the mid-nineteenth century and the incorporation and boundary changes of its several towns in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The county's early formation and gradual division make the interpretation of the available statistics particularly difficult.
The land comprising Montgomery County was claimed by the Crown and by Virginia long before white men actually entered it. At the time of the area's earliest settlement in the early 1740 ' s it was a part of Orange County (Kegley, M. Early Adventurers, v. 1, p. 91-96). In 1745 Augusta County was formed from Orange and it included Montgomery. In 1770 Botetourt County was formed from Augusta County and Montgomery was a part of it. In 1772 the area comprising present-day Montgomery County was split in half by the formation of Fincastle County. The half to the east of the Appalachian Divide went to Botetourt and the half to the west to Fincastle.
In 1776, due mostly to the agitation of its westernmost inhabitants, Fincastle County was dissolved and three counties formed from it: Kentucky, Washington and Montgomery. Montgomery stretched from the North Carolina border to the Ohio River and included all or portions of Giles, Floyd, Pulaski, Bland, Wythe, Carroll, Grayson, Tazewell and Smyth Counties. The county seat was established at Fort Chiswell in present Wythe County and the first county court convened there on January 7, 1777. In 1789 Kanawha County was formed from portions of Montgomery and Botetourt Counties and the northern border of Montgomery County shrank to a point about half way between the Ohio River and the present Virginia - West Virginia state line. In 1790 Wythe County was formed from the western portion of Montgomery. The line between the two counties (surveyed by Gordon Cloyd) was formed by the western border of present-day Floyd County, the eastern border of present-day Bland County and a line across present-day Pulaski County. The formation of Wythe necessitated the removal of the Montgomery County Seat. On March 4, 1790, the court met at James Craig's house and tavern a t Hans Meadows one mile east of present-day downtown Christiansburg. By 1791 the court was meeting in a Court House in the new town of Christiansburg (Kegley, M. Early Adventurers, v. 1, p. 107).
In 1806 Giles County was formed from the northern portion of Montgomery County. At some point between 1776 and 1806 Montgomery had annexed its present eastern half on the Roanoke drainage system including portions of the present counties of Roanoke and Craig. In 1806 Montgomery still included all of Floyd County and more than half of Pulaski County.
In 1831 Floyd County was formed from the southern portion of Montgomery, In 1839 Pulaski County was formed from the western portion of Montgomery and the eastern portion of Wythe. In 1849 Roanoke County annexed the eastern one-eighth of Montgomery and in 1853 Craig annexed a small piece of Montgomery extending down Craig Creek from the present boundary. Sometime between 1864 and 1881 "Little Montgomery" on the west side of the Little River was annexed to Montgomery County. These last minor changes gave Montgomery County its present size: 3 9 5 square miles (Hiden, Virginia Acts).
The town of Christiansburg was officially established in 1792, Blacksburg in 1798 and Lafayette in 1828. Blacksburg was incorporated in 1871 and the governing of the town passed from the town trustees to an elected town government. Radford was incorporated in 1886 and became a separate city in 1892. Cambria was incorporated as a town in 1906. As originally platted, the town of Christiansburg contained 175 acres. The town of Blacksburg encompassed 38 1/4 acres and Lafayette ten acres (Kegley, M. Early Adventurers. Virginia Acts).
On April 2, 1870, the General Assembly passed an act dividing Montgomery County into four townships or magisterial districts for electoral purposes as well as for the collection of census data. The townships were: Christiansburg, Blacksburg, Alleghany and Auburn. Voting places were established at Blacksburg, Christiansburg, Riner, Central Depot (Radford) , Prices Fork, Pilot, Alleghany Springs, Big Spring (Elliston) and on the North Fork of the Roanoke River (Montgomery County deed book S, p. 273)
Two features of Montgomery County that invariably appear on eighteenth century maps are the New River and the "Alleghany Mountain”. The New River was the great discovery of the Batts and Fallam expedition of 1671 - a river flowing westward to an unknown destination. Even after it was fully mapped and understood, the New River had a special importance as Virginia's prime potential water connection to the Ohio River.
The Alleghany Mountain was often portrayed as a sinuous ridge separating the waters of the New and the Roanoke. It was commonly referred to in eighteenth- and nineteenth-century deeds and persisted on maps as late as the Blacksburg Railroad map of ca. 1881. William B. Rogers, Virginia's foremost geologist of the early nineteenth century, attacked the popular notion of the Alleghany Mountain in his 1835 "Report of the Geological Reconnaissance of the State of Virginia". He wrote:
In Montgomery County, - the designation of Alleghany has been very strangely and unphilosophically applied to a comparatively elevated portion of the table lands of that county ... the speaker is seldom aware that [what] he is describing has no original in nature, and that what he represents as one mountain, a continuation of the Great Alleghany ... is in reality ... only a series of spurs, sometimes merely elevated table lands, dissimilar in structure and origin amongst each other, and only associated in an imaginary connection by the accidental circumstance that they form one portion of the watershed of the east and west-discharging rivers.
In fact, the Alleghany Mountain was very real to travelers in the early nineteenth century. After a series of gaps and slowly ascending valleys, the slope from the Roanoke River up to Christiansburg or Blacksburg must have been perceived as the first major obstacle the traveler would have had to overcome in his progress from the north.
Montgomery County was usually perceived by travelers to be a half-wild highland not particularly well suited for agriculture. These attitudes were also reflected in early place names such as Hans Meadows and Drapers Meadows (also called Drapers Glades). In the eighteenth century "meadow" and "glade" carried the connotations of dryness or elevation above more desirable stream bottoms. These meadows and glades may have originally appeared as clearings and open grassy woodlands of widely spaced oaks and other mature hardwoods. They were sometimes identified as barrens, and treated as unproductive land due to a lack of understanding of the reason for their openness as burned-off areas created by the Indians for the increase of game. Despite any negative connotations, James Patton chose Drapers Meadows over the New and Roanoke river bottoms and he and his successors, the Prestons, reaped the benefits of good meadow soils.
Negative comments were expressed by Bishop Asbury, who in 1800 wrote: "We passed Montgomery town and Court House among the mountain barrens; we pushed on to Christian's [on the New River] " (Clarke, p. 250). In April 1797 Louis Phillipe described the same landscape Asbury would pass through:
The Alleghanys (in the region where I crossed them) are covered with oaks; one sees hardly any pines. The soil is dry and arid. It is no more than stony sand, not cultivable ... The western slope of these mountains struck us a s infinitely worse than the eastern. The soil is sandy and d r y , the land is flatter, and the springs rarer. The vegetation is much less varied and flourishing than on the other slope ... The countryside was about the same as far as the Dig Kanhaway, which around here they call the New River. The settlements here are few and squalid. (Louis Phillipe)
A gazetteer echoed Louis Phillipe in 1835: "Besides the mountains, the whole face of this county is broken and rocky, yet though so rough and elevated, the streams are bordered with excellent soil" (Martin, p. 401).
Complaints about Montgomery County's poor roads were obligatory in the nineteenth century; nevertheless, travelers began to look with a romantic interest upon the same landscape that earlier travelers viewed with disfavor. Willis Blackford, a young surveyor for the Lynchburg and Tennessee Railroad, described the South Fork of the Roanoke and the rugged Elliott's Creek drainage in glowing terms (Blackford letters). In the 1850's a German traveler said of the Alleghany Mountain:
The road was bad, the region charming. We were already in the middle of the Alleghany Mountains; on both sides high mountain chains rose 2 to 300 hundred feet. A summit just like the Weser Mountains in Schaumburg, now reddish then greenish ever according to the quality of the tree growth. It was really a romantic region; narrow thin valleys, high mountains, often rugged and beautifully laid out farms surrounded by woods and fields. Often the road became a little too frightfully romantic and we ran the danger of breaking both arms and legs together with our coach.
Pennsylvanian visitor Lewis Miller was fascinated with Montgomery County's scenery. He and his Christiansburg relatives would drive through the countryside in horse and buggy, stopping at caves, villages and overlooks. One such jaunt Miller sketched and captioned " A visit to Elliott's Creek ... A wild stream foaming and dashing against the rocks."
In another sketch he portrayed himself walking along the roadbed of the unfinished Virginia and Tennessee Railroad, and wrote: "Branches of the high mountain stretch down to the road, and as huge blue masses of lime Stone rock, the Summits of which are frequently divided by fearful clefts; Sometimes as undulating chains of hills whose Sides are overgrown with wood."
There came a point when travelers were coming to see Montgomery County itself. Early springs-goers came for the waters but they spent much time on walks and rides while visiting the springs. Edward A. Pollard, a Richmond journalist, visited Montgomery County in the summer of 1870 and lavished a good part of his description on the Puncheon Run Falls of Bottom Creek Gorge in the extreme southeast corner of the county. At the time of Pollard's writing, Captain Calhoun, proprietor of Alleghany Springs, planned to lay the falls open "to great hosts of sight-seers ... It is already planned to cut a path down the mountain side, and to overcome the most difficult places with ladders, and ... to open some romantic vistas through the forrest." Pollard also mentioned Fisher's View: "The name of the view is taken from [Flavius] Fisher, the artist, who made a picture of it last season" (Pollard, p. 89). Fisher's View Mountain had been known as Pilot Knob, but the name given it by Captain Calhoun is in use today.
The land on the western slope of the Alleghany, disparaged by earlier travelers, was extolled by Pollard. Of the country between Christiansburg and Blacksburg Pollard remarked: "Our road extended through the richest and most cultivated parts of Montgomery County. It was a vision on either sides of broad acres, wide, warm fields, the yellow harvest bound with the garniture of woods, and groves in which stood the square brick houses indicative of the country gentry of Virginia” (Pollard, p. 131).

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Some of the Tax and land records in Loudoun, Virginia shown herein appear to be conflated with Phillipp Huff-841 who died in Loudoun, Virginia in 1796.
posted by Billy Huff
Indeed, there were, guess they were there from ye olde days. I think I distinguished which were which...hope that indenting and noting which weren't the Philip who went to s/w VA clarified matters. It'd be pretty easy to suspect them to have been the same one so seemed like a good idea to keep on the timeline, noting which ones were not s/w VA Philip.
posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
Yes, I probably contributed to this confusion but after re-reading Granville's research, I believe he was referring to the Phillip Hoff who died in Loudoun in 1796.
posted by Billy Huff
I need to rethink the indenting...vs just noting where it was the other Philip (Phil md Rosina). Phil md Rachel was also in Loudoun Co., and it does seem it could be tempting to suspect the various records to have referred to the same person. Both Phils were there in the Loudoun Co records. Back when Binn's (or whatever database it was) was more available and had attached actual images that could be pulled up, pretty sure I saw one of the images where Phil (md Rachel) seemed to have his eldest son Daniel on the same page.

I need to keep chipping away in general on this profile, but in bits b/c it's tedious / confusing (need to be in a frame of mind with enough time to concentrate right) checking for & actually looking at citations, etc. More is definitely needed, esp. for the idea of reducing potential for confusing others who might come by. And maybe send Jimmy over to de-clutterize if he will accept the task. He helped recently with some other profiles, by trying to make them more clear / reduce potential for confusion / streamline, etc.

posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
edited by Barbara Bartlett Huff
"Creative" trees...if you used info from these trees, better check it! There's wild & crazy stuff in these trees!

"AAA King Stuart Tree" file (2:2:2:MM6D-F71), submitted 7 July 2018 by garyking9 URL: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3JR8-BP2 "AAA King Stuart Tree" file (2:2:2:MM6D-F4C), submitted 7 July 2018 by garyking9 URL: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3JRX-27M On Ancestry.com, it's a Private Tree under gskingster, Member Name: gskingster. Unfortunately the tree is still searchable, thus misinformation from it appears in search results and gets repeated on others' trees http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=69046529&pid=11720

posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
Rachel Jackson: Phillip's son Henry did marry Rachel Jackson, daughter of Robert Jackson (Virginia Deaths and Burials, 1853-1912). Either a coincidence or some researcher in the past may have confused the record of Henry and his father.
posted by Billy Huff
This Philip has been identified by Y-DNA testing as in haplogroup Q-M242, and among those related to or descended from Paulus Dirksen (abt.1620-bef.1692) https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dirksen-50 who came from Holland to New Netherland in 1650. Paulus' son was Dirk Pauluszen https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hoff-55. Both of their surnames--Dirksen and Pauluszen--were patronymic names based on the given name of the father. It was Dirk who assumed the fixed surname Hoff around 1700, in compliance with English requirements. All names may also be seen with numerous of spelling variations. See also Group 02 in the Hough Project at https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/hough/about
posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
Please note it's not known who this Philip Huff's parents were, but they definitely were NOT Frederick & Violet Huff. It's been proliferating of late, seemingly copied from 2 or more pretty flaky & duplicate submissions called AAA King Stuart Tree, apparently by a Gary King, who is unidentifiable/unreachable to date. At least 300+ Huffs, plus their spouses, have many errors...wrong parentage...several individuals' info combined on one individual's record, so as (it seems) to get all the blanks filled in. It's also curious when a tree like this has some 30,000 names, including lots of royalty, warriors etc. from medieval times back into BC (Before Christ!).
posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
I'm confused about the DAR part...toward the end, under Notes. Helen Boston Cooper alleged all that for a DAR application? When I checked, she was a descendant of a different Philip, not this Philip (haplogroup Q-M242). She appears to have been a descendant of Philip of Wayne Co., KY (haplogroup G-M201), but her DAR application used this Philip. Understandable, she didn't have the benefit of the Y-DNA results. But the tale of this Philip supplying horses & wagons seems fanciful...I mean, who had more than one horse back then (per tax lists)? We can't second guess a person's political leanings w/o evidence, from a tale that appears nowhere else. It quite possible this Philip was more neutral than anything else, similar to a neighboring Huff (as shown for that Huff, in a court action), We do know that this Philip supplied flour during the Revolutionary War--and got paid for it--but we don't know he wouldn't have supplied flour to the other side just the same. He was a miller, so he may have supplied flour if/when whichever army demanded it.
posted by Barbara Bartlett Huff
Huff-2151 and Huff-94 appear to represent the same person because: Phillip Hoff of Loudoun, VA who married Rachel Jackson is the same person as Phillp Huff. His descendants adopted the Huff spelling of his surname. Children include Daniel, William, Sarah, Phillip, Nancy, Elcey, John, Samuel, Henry, James and Absalom.

Regards,

Billy Huff

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