John Johnstone (abt. 1170 - abt. 1194)

John de Johnston before 1150 to 1194. The first recorded Johnston.

The last name Johnston comes from "John's toun", not "John's stone" or John's son." Historically, "Johnston" has been the spelling of the surname, however the spelling was changed to Johnstone in 1701 when the chief of the clan became Marquis of Annandale. This was to distinguish him and his descendants from the rest of the clan. The first known person of this name was John of Johnston, who in 1174 gave his name to the lands of Annandale in Dumfrieshire which he had been granted. His son, called Gilbert de Johnston ("Gillibertus de Johnistoun") appears on records between 1194-1214 and onwards, presumably taking his surname from the town his father had established - "Johnston" or "John's toun".

Gilbert's Grandson called Sir John de Johnston was a Knight of the county of Dumfries. Sir John de Johnston signed the Ragman Roll of King Edward I of England in 1296.

At this time Perth was known as St Johnston and Johnstonburn in East Lothian was then called Jonystoun. These two areas have records of the Johnstone Clan. A third area of Johnstons which came from Stephen the Clerk and Margaret the heiress of Sir Andrew Garioch used the family name of Johnston in Caskieben, Aberdeen.

John de Johnston was a grandson of Uchtred, Lord of Tynedale. The first member of the Tyndall family was Uchtred, Lord of Tyndale, who married Bethoc Canmore, daughter of Donald III, King of Scots from 1093 to 1099. His son was John FitzUchtred, and his grandson was John de Johnstoun, founder of the Johnstone Clan.

Sources

Tyndall. Origins. Wikipedia. Accessed on 29 May 2021 from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndall

The Scots Peerage : Founded On Wood's Ed. Of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage Of Scotland; Containing An Historical And Genealogical Account Of The Nobility Of That Kingdom : Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". Internet Archive. Accessed May 6 2020.>Johnstone, Marquess of Annandale, Scots Peerage, Balfour, Vol I, pgs 230-271 Accessed on 23 May 2021 from https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/246/mode/2up

See Also:

The Annandale Family Book Of The Johnstones, Earls And Marquises Of Annandale. [With Plates, Including Portraits, Illustrations, Facsimiles And Genealogical Tables.] : Fraser, William, Sir, 1816-1898 : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". Internet Archive. Accessed May 6 2020.>Johnstones of Annandale.

The first member of the Tyndall family was Uchtred, Lord of Tyndale, who married Bethoc Canmore, daughter of Donald III, King of Scots from 1093 to 1099. His son was John FitzUchtred, and his grandson was John de Johnstoun, founder of the Johnstone Clan. Uchtred was also the father of Hextilda FitzUchtred, who married Richard Comyn. Their descendant, John Comyn II of Badenoch was one of the Competitors for the Crown of Scotland. Robert FitzUchtred, Lord of Tynedale was another son and was the founder of the Tyndall line. Uchtred's name, the period of his life and his lands and position suggest a kinship with the Anglo Saxon Earls of Northumbria, one of whom was Uchtred the Bold, Earl from 1006 to 1016. These Earls, in turn, were descended from the Saxon Kings of Northumbria. Whilst the Tyndales soon adopted the use of the Norman 'de', this does not necessarily suggest the family was Norman in the male line; the Saxon family of Woolesley, for example, used 'de' throughout this period.[4] Nevertheless, the Tyndales married and integrated into the Norman nobility within the earliest period of their recorded history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndall

Ancestors Family Search indicating that John De Johnstoun 1120-1207 was the son of Uchtred of Tynedale. This indicates that John FitzUchtted and John De Johnstoun, father of Gilbert De Johnstoun could be the same person. He married A. Comyn and his sister Hextilda married Richard Comyn. The Comyns were contenders to the Scottish throne and this indicates that the Johnstons could have been contenders too. However, John Johnston supported Robert the Bruce and was rewarded with lands for doing so.

Ancestors Family Serach https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/GS7K-SZ4/john-johnstoun-1120-1207

Some sources have John Johnstoun as the son of Uchtred and Bethoc, so John FitzUchtred and John Johnstoun could be the same person. 1120-1207.

https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/G7CX-WF4/bethoc-ingen-domnaill-bane-1095-1160

The first known person of this name was John of Johnstone, who in 1174 gave his name to the lands of Annandale in Dumfrieshire which he had been granted. [2]

This means that John was at least 25-30 in 1174 to be granted lands and his birth date should be circa 1145-1150 making it more feasible that John FitzUctred who died in 1150 was his father.

Here is a source to verify this profile. I have had my pre 1500 application rejected, so I can't edit this profile myself, but this is the first recorded Johnston, John Johnston.

Google Images. The First Johnstons. https://www.google.com/search?q=Gilbert+Johnstone+of+Elphinstone&client=ms-android-samsung-gj-rev1&stick=H4sIAAAAAAAAAOPgE-LVT9c3NMywNKgwL083UYJw0wotLMyNK5O0JLOTrfQLUvMLclKBVFFxfp5VQWJRal5J8SJWBffMnKTUohIFr_yMvOKS_LxUhfw0BdecgoxMCHcHKyMAyoSZWWEAAAA&prmd=nmiv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjSjbis4pTuAhUMXsAKHU05B6YQ_AUoA3oECAUQAw&biw=412&bih=732&dpr=1.75#imgrc=0Tcpc_UaHqYS-M

The dates of the father may need revising, however I will do more research in an effort to resolve these anomalies. As I have stated before,I can't edit pre 1500 profiles, so I will just leave comments as I find out more information.

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Warning: Check the data. A father's death date (FitzUchtred-2 died 1150) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Johnstone-186 born 1170) .