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Madeleine Joire was born in France, baptized a Roman Catholic (her sponsors were Bartholomeus LeBlanc and Magdalena Gruson)[1] in Armentières on October 27, 1611.
Baptismal record of Magdalena |
[2][3] Magdeleine was the daughter of Petrus (Pierre) Joire and his wife Jacoba (Jacqueline) Le Blanc (also Le Blan).
She married Mathieu Blanchan (Mattheus, Matteus Blanchard [4]) on October 15, 1633 in the Roman Catholic Church in Armentières and "six of the couple's children were baptized in that church":[5]
At some point Madeleine and Mathieu switched their religion from Roman Catholic (at least outwardly) to Reformed (Calvinist) Protestant. The families may have been "secret Huguenots" that conformed outwardly to their majority Roman Catholic community in France but declared their Calvinist Reformed faith when they emigrated.
The Blanchans moved to Canterbury, Kent, England before 6 November 1644 (baptism of son Nicolas there); by 1651 they were living in Mannheim, in the German Palatinate, a Protestant-ruled territory. In 1660 they embarked for Nieuw Amsterdam in Nieuw Nederland, North America.
In 1660, Mattheus and Magdeleine Blanshan came to America on the Gilded Otter - De Vergulde Otter - with their three children: Magdalena, Elizabeth and Matthew, ages 12, 9, and 5. Mattheus was listed on the passenger list as an agriculturist (farmer). The ship sailed from Amsterdam in April 1660 and arrived in New Amsterdam in August.[7] The Blanchans arrived at Wiltwyck before December 7, 1660.[1] On 25 Dec 1660 the new minister, Dominie Blom, recorded their participation at his first celebration of the Lord's Supper at the Reformed Dutch Church, now memorialized in a plaque.
First Communion Participants List |
Madeleine "Magdalena" (Joire) Blanchan.
Given name: Madeleine,[8] Magdalena, Magdeleine, Magdeline, Magdalene, Madelena, Madeline, Maddelen, Madelin.
Surname: Joire, Jorisse, Jorise, Jarisse, Gore
Middle name: The origin of "Brissen" (sometimes Brison or Brisson) as a middle name for her is unknown, but it is possibly a misreading of her sponsor: Magdalena "Gruson".[9]
Married name: Blanchan, Blanchon.
Matthew sailed to New Netherlands with his wife (Madalenne) and 3 children (Magdalen 12, Elisabeth 9 and Mattys Jr. 5) on 26 Apr 1660 in the De Vergulde Otter (The Gilded Otter). One married () daughter also came at that time with her husband (), and another () came later with her husband (). They arrived in New Amsterdam (NYC) before 25 Aug 1660.[10][11] Another source writes that "Matthew Blanshan and his wife, Maddeleen Jorisse,...were the first of these [Huguenot] refugees to set sail for the new world in the Gilded Otter, April 27, 1660...They arrived at Wiltwyck before December 7 [sic], 1660, for at that date we find Dominie Blom's record of their presence at his first celebration of the Lord's Supper."[12] A plaque listing names of those at first Lord's Supper at Kingston Dutch Reform Church show her as the wife of Mattiu Blanschan. [13]
Plaque: First Lord's Supper at Esopus |
Madeleine (Joire) Blanchan died in... [citation needed] Hurley or Kingston, Ulster, New York about 1680,[14][15] Alternate death dates: about 1688 or about 1715; 30 Apr 1688 She is buried in the Old Hurley Burial Ground in Hurley, Ulster, New York.[16]
Why Joire?
See also: Epperson, Gwenn F. "Magdalena Joire: A 'Mademoiselle from Armentieres'," New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, Vol. 122, No. 2, April, 1991, page 133, an excerpt from which is available at https://books.google.com/books/about/New_Netherland_Roots.html?id=stSeDEkLX5sC.
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So there is nothing in Anna's profile that gives a clue as to her identity. In fact, if she was a daughter of Mathieu Blanchan and Madeleine Joire then her birth information (1635 in Mannheim, Germany) is probably incorrect, since they had a child, Francois, baptized in Armentières, France, where they were living, in April 1635.
The profile of Anna's husband, Simon Frear (Frear-1), doesn't provide any new information, either, since his birth data was a guess based on information in Anna's profile.
The only "solid" data point is the marriage of Anna Blanchan and Simon Frear on 12 May 1670. Now this may be a coincidence, but there was an Annatje Blanshan (Blanshan-55), daughter of Matheus Blanshan (Blanshan-15), who married a Simon Freer (Freer-602) on 12 May 1770, EXACTLY 100 years later. She was born in Hurley, Ulster Co., New York, and he was born in New Paltz, Ulster Co.
Is it possible that somebody mistakenly entered the wrong marriage year, and that Anna's profile actually represents Annatje Blanchan, rather than Anna Blanchan?
Cheers, Liz (10x-gr-granddaughter of Madeleine)
The newsletter seems to still exist, so there may be corrected links that can be provided. Thanks!
Also, these same links need to be corrected in her husband's profile!
edited by Bartley McRorie
I'll look into this after the thon (usually takes me a few hours each to find the missing link - just don't have the stamina/brain power for that during a thon).
DBFA = Du Bois Family Association.
Cheers, Liz
Since Ellen Smith questioned Burhans-36 as husband several years ago, I've detached that profile as husband of Joisse-1.
Find A Grave shows a death date of exactly 30 Apr 1688.
WikiTree shows "about 1688".
Not knowing enough about my 7G grandmother to say if that exact date is correct, I've added the "|sameas=no" parameter to the Find A Grave reference to eliminate the error. But I wanted to call attention to it here, in case any of the many, many profile managers or other interested parties wish to sustain a dialog on this issue!
If we can agree on the precise death date shown in Find A Grave, then the extra parameter may be deleted.
Cheers, Liz
I am, however, very curious about the sources for this person. None of the sources I've seen (nor even any of the other MyHeritage profiles I've examined) lists a wife for Jacob Burhans or a mother for Jan Burhans. (However, I'm not a Burhans descendant, so I've not searched as fervently as a descendant might have done.) What is the source of this information?