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Elizabeth Frances (Jones) Halbert (abt. 1715 - abt. 1780)

Elizabeth Frances Halbert formerly Jones
Born about in Colony of Virginiamap
Daughter of [uncertain] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 1740 in Essex County, Colony of Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , and
Died about at about age 65 in Caroline, Virginia, United Statesmap
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Biography

Elizabeth Frances Jones was born in 1715 in Essex County, Virginia. She was possibly [citation needed] a child of John Jones and Frances Randolph. She married Joel Halbert Sr. in 1740 in Essex County, Virginia. Elizabeth died abt 1780 in Caroline County, Virginia. Her burial is unknown.

  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900[1]

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  1. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900: Source number: 14.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JHG Ancestry Record 7836 #663495 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900:
    Name:Elizabeth Frances Jones
    Gender:Female
    Spouse Name:Joel Halbert
    Spouse Birth Place:VA
    Spouse Birth Year:1712
    Marriage Year:1740
    Marriage State:VA
    Number Pages:1

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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Elizabeth by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elizabeth:

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James-17278 Ron James
She is Elizabeth Francis Randolf. She married Jones and then Halbert.I have been DNA testing well over a dozen descendants of William Randolph 1527 and Mary Isham's children and get matches from 35cm to over 50cm from 90 percent of them. And my line includes Elizabeth. We should merge this with Elizabeth (Randolph) Halbert (1728 - 1780) Randolph-2566 Elizabeth (Randolph) Halbert (1728-1780)

Sixth great grandson 1. Ron is the son of Nila (Griffin) James DNA confirmed 2. Nila is the daughter of Elsie Marie Stambach (1909-1992) DNA confirmed 3. Elsie is the daughter of Mary Ann Brewer (1867-1914) [confident] 4. Mary is the daughter of George Franklin Brewer (1834-1917) [confident] 5. George is the son of Lucinda Blackburn (abt.1814-1917) DNA confirmed 6. Lucinda is the daughter of Josiah Hackney Blackburn (1778-1841) [unknown confidence] 7. Josiah is the son of Frances Jones (Halbert) Blackburn (1751-1843) [unknown confidence] 8. Frances is the daughter of Elizabeth Frances (Jones) Halbert (abt.1715-abt.1780) [unknown confidence] This makes Elizabeth the sixth great grandmother of Ron.

posted by Ron James
edited by Ron James
Rose-16958 Brian Rose
Ron, we are 6th cousins, once removed, common ancestor Jones-6335. Your suggestion that the two Elizabeths are the same person would explain the Halbert family tradition claiming descent from Pocahontas. I've always wondered where the "Halbert" comes from in Randolph-2566. I, too, have similarly significant matches with descendants of William Randolph and Mary Isham. My DNA expertise is minimal, but I have read that small segments under 7cm are more than likely background noise, even when they add up to 60 or 70cm, as some of mine do. So, I doubt that the DNA numbers you cite are convincing evidence of a relationship.
posted by Brian Rose
James-17278 Ron James
Hi Cousin, The Halbert, Jones, and Randolph relationship is most confusing. And I'm still trying to sort it out. But I'm convinced that the DNA evidence along with other family history shows the relationship with William Randolph. Regarding DNA. I always set the DNA cm setting to 3cm. Yes, it can show a glitch in the DNA, but I've found that if it matches a majority of descendants to a particular ancestor, then you're on the right trail. I did this with my Mayflower line, and it pointed me on the right track to my Mayflower ancestors. The results will depend on how far back the ancestor is. If I get a 7cm reading on an ancestor 9 generations ago, I'm probably related to that person earlier in the line, But if I'm matching my 7th ancestor with several 3 and 4 matches that total 30 plus total cm, that would be about right for that ancestor. And if I get many similar matches on one distant ancestor with other descendants, there's a pretty good chance I'm on the right track. To test the theory, I've picked a line totally away from any of mine, and normally I will get few if any matches. But if I'm running up a branch I think is mine, I will get significant matches from several descendants in that line. Anyway, right or wrong, that's my way of using DNA in my explorations.

For instance, our relationship is pretty solid, and yet our largest matching segment is 4.7 cm.

Largest segment = 4.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 18.7cM (0.522 Pct)

5 shared segments found for this comparison.

408106 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.246 Pct SNPs are full identical Here's what Ancestry has about the relationship of total cm with distant ancestors.

4th cousin and more distant Shared centimorgan range: 6–65 centimorgans Enough DNA is shared with closer relatives that relationships can be determined with a higher degree of accuracy. But because we don’t necessarily inherit DNA from ancestors in the exact percentages one might expect (25% from each grandparent, 12.5% from each great-grandparent, and so forth), and because our cousins don’t receive exactly the same DNA as we do from our common ancestors, determining exact relationships via DNA becomes less feasible the more distant the genealogical relationship is. Percentages of DNA shared between relatives at the 4th cousin level and beyond may signify any number of distant relationships, but the genealogical relationships are unlikely to be closer than six degrees from the test taker. You will share about 20–85 centimorgans with a fourth cousin and 6–20 centimorgans with a fifth through eighth cousin.

posted by Ron James
edited by Ron James
Rose-16958 Brian Rose
Thanks for explaining your thinking. I look forward to anything more you can find on the Halbert/Jones/Randolph connections.
posted by Brian Rose
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Jones-112821 and Jones-6335 appear to represent the same person because: duplicate profiles for mother of Hannah (merge just proposed for her duplicate profiles)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
N.-17 Maggie N.
Should John Jones and his wife be removed as her parents?
posted by Maggie N.
N.-17 Maggie N.
Controversy over lack of sources for parents, plus their ages
posted by Maggie N.
Posey-1343 Bettie (Posey) Bullard
Jones-69064 and Jones-6335 appear to represent the same person because: they are the same person.
posted by Bettie (Posey) Bullard
Roche-395 Patricia Roche
Jones-27952 and Jones-6335 appear to represent the same person because: same family
posted by Patricia Roche
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Either the dates on this profile are incorrect, or incorrect parents are shown. She could not have been born in 1715 to a mother born in 1722
posted by Robin Lee
Jennie Nause
I agree that she cannot be John Jones' daughter. She is Richard Thomas Randolph's daughter. Does anyone know?
posted by Jennie Nause
Bedingfield-275 Thressa (Bedingfield) Paplanus
any help improving this profile is appreciated.
posted by Thressa (Bedingfield) Paplanus
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Jones-59378 and Jones-6335 appear to represent the same person because: same husband and son
posted by Robin Lee

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