Pierre Jourdan
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Pierre Jourdan (abt. 1663 - 1723)

Pierre "de Cabrières" Jourdan aka Jourdaan, Jordaan
Born about in Cabrière, Saint-Nazaire-des-Gardies, Francemap
Brother of
Husband of — married 1696 (to 1713) in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Husband of — married before 6 May 1719 in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 60 in Drakenstein, de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
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Pierre Jourdan was a Huguenot.
He found refuge in the Dutch Cape Colony.

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Biography

Pierre Jourdan has French origins.
On 31 October 1687, at Frankfurt, while travelling into exile following the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, Pierre Jourdaan and Paul Jourdan received aid from their church. It is argued elsewhere that the comment "point parents de Pierre JOURDAN." at the end of Paul Jourdan's assistance record at Geneva means that he and Pierre were not related and that the recorders were "at pains" to point this out. At the outset this seemed odd to me, and I wondered what the point would be for the recorders to make such a comment and to be "at pains" to do so. Furthermore, further along the journey the two men were recorded as "first cousins." So I spoke to a French speaker with some knowledge of evolution in the language, who says the word parents would be either parents or relatives. Consequently, without seeing the original, and comparing to other records with similar comments, I don't think we can be sure which it is. Much more logical, in my view, would be to note they while they were travelling together, perhaps appearing to be brothers because they were young men a few years apart, they did not share the same parents. [1][2]
Letter [2]:
On 23 December 1687, in a letter to the Heeren Zeventienen, the Rotterdam Chamber advised that the following individuals had expressed an intention to sail to the Cape on the ship China. They were: Jean Mesnard, Pierre Jourdaan, Louise Courbonne, Marie Anthouarde, Jeanne Mesnard, George Mesnard, Jacques Mesnard, Jean Mesnard, Philippe Meinard, André Mesnard, Jehane Marque, Jean Jourdan, Pierre Jourdan, Marie Jourdan, Jeanne Rousse, Marie Rousse, Marguerite Rousse, Pierre Malan, Isabeau Richard, Hercules Verdeau, Pierre la Grange, Paul Jourdan, André Pellanchon and Matthieu Fracassé. [2]

Name

Pierre Jourdan [3][4][5] / Jourdaan [2] de Cabrière [5]

Birth

Date: 1663 [3][4][2]
Place: Cabrière [3][4], Saint-Nazaire-des-Gardies, France [4]

Parents

Father: Pierre Jourdan (Jourdan-23) [3]
Mother: Jehane Marque Jourdan (Marthe-1) [3]

Events

Between 1690 and 1724, 54 Huguenots signed documents. These signatures were published by Graham Botha in his book The French Refugees at the Cape and includes those of Louis de Berault, Pierre Simond, Jacques Delporte, Jean Durand, Jacques de Savoye, Jacques Nourtier, André Gauch, François Retif, Guillaume Néel, Paul Roux, Daniel Hùgo, David Senecal, Jean Prieur du Plessis, Guillaume du Toit, François du Toit, Jean le Roux (or Jean le Roux de Normandie?), Jacques Therond, Hercules des Prez, Abraham de Villiers, Jean Gardiol, Jacques de Villiers, Pierre de Villiers, Isaac Taillefert (or Isaac Taillefer-164), Jean Taillefert, Jean Gardé, Claude Marais, Estienne Bruére, Daniel des Ruelles, Pierre Rousseau, Jacques Pinard, Estienne Cronje, Jacques Malan, Gabriel le Roux, David du Buisson, Daniel Nourtier, Estienne Niel, Philippe Fouché, Gideon le Grand, Pierre Cronjé, Paul Couvret, Paul le Febvre, Salomon de Gournay, Pierre Vivier, Pierre Jourdan, Estienne Viret, Esaias Engelbert Caucheteux and Jean de Buijs. [6] These signatures were almost certainly also some of those of the 240 burghers who signed the petition headed by Adam Tas [7] against corruption and cronyism by the Government of Willem Adriaan van der stel. [8]

Will

Date drafted: 6 May 1719
Date filed: 22 Dec 1723
"...Pierre Jordaan van Cabriërre, oud tuschen de ses en seven en vijftig jaaren en Maria Verdeaux van Cabo de Goede Hoop oud negenthien jaaren, woonagtigh aan Drakensteijn, egte luijden..." [9]

Death

Date: 28 Oct 1723 [2] / 28 Dec 1723 [3][4]
Place: Drakenstein, Cape of Good Hope
"Pieter Jourdaan overleden 28ste Octob: 1723" [10]

Research Note

I have unravelled the mix-up of the two Pierre Jourdan's Pierre Jourdan de Cabrière and Pierre Jourdan de Belle Etoîle (junior for short), which among with all the other French Huguenot duplicate Jourdan-profiles of this period, has caused some confusion and cross-contamination of genealogical lines. In this regard please see the discussion about the confusion between the two Pierre Jourdaan SV/PROGs.' Please refrain from unnecessary disconnecting and / or re-connecting of profiles of family members.' Van der Walt-440 06:33, 3 April 2017 (EDT) [11]

Sources

  1. See: http://members.shaw.ca/cliffwoodfogge/Pierre.htm - Article by Harry Booyens. Philip van der Walt July 4, 2015.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 WikiTree profile Jourdaan-1 created by Pieter Meyer, 23 May 2013. Source:
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 WikiTree profile Jourdan-22 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 WikiTree profile Jordaan-236 created through the import of Jordaan Gerhardus Johannes Albertus.GED on Jun 15, 2013 by Cornelia Potgieter (De Koker-19).
  5. 5.0 5.1 Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Pierre Jourdan de Cabriere. Seen and added by Philip van der Walt.
  6. Entered by Pieter Meyer 25 April, 2013. Source: Colin Graham Botha, The French Refugees at the Cape (Cape Town: Cape Times Limited, 1921), p. 74. Also see Geni.com > French Huguenots who emigrated to South Africa.
  7. Also see: Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Adam Tas & Adam Tas, Dagboek (eds. Leo Fouché, A.J. Böeseken, vert. J.P. Smuts). Van Riebeeck-Vereniging, Kaapstad 1970 2011 dbnl / erven Leo Fouché / A.J. Böeseken / J. Smuts. Seen and entered by Philip van der Walt Apr 3, 2017.
  8. Willem Adriaan van der stel succeeded his father, Simon van der Stel, as Governor of the Cape in 1699; Willem van der Stel abused his official position to corner an over-supplied market in farm produce. Van der Stel was jealous of Adam Tas's wealth and easy going life, and in 1706 he used his legal powers to arrest and imprison him. Tas became a Stellenbosch legend when he had this petition drawn up against incumbent Governor W.A. van der Stel and other farming officials. Tas and his fellow free burghers were protesting against the corruption and extravagant lifestyle of Van der Stel and the fact that abuse of power by officials led to unfair competition with burghers. The Tas petition was submitted to the Lords Seventeen, the governing body of the Dutch East India Company (VOC), in Amsterdam. The petition was rejected and on Sunday, 28 February 1706 Magistrate Starrenburg arrested Adam Tas. From documents in the desk of Tas, Van der Stel established the nature of complaints against him and also the names of the dissatisfied burghers. Though several more burghers were arrested and punished, they were victorious at the end, when the Lords Seventeen in October 1706 categorically prohibited officials to own land or to trade. His wife Elizabeth van Brakel tried hard to get him released; when Adam Tas was finally freed after thirteen months, he named his farm 'Libertas' (liberty). Van der Stel was recalled to the Netherlands in 1707. Sources: http://www.sahistory.org.za/dated-event/adam-tas-arrested; http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA/2005-05/1116668205 (seen and added by Philip van der Walt with the kind help of Maria Labuschagne on Apr 3, 2017.)
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If one follows Harry Booyens discussion around unraveling the two Pierre Jordaans then the child https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jourdan-44 attributed to this Jourdaan should in fact belong to the other Pierre https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jourdan-113

Thus https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jourdan-44 and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Jordaan-970 are the same person.

posted by Dirk Toms
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posted by Louis Heyman
Jourdaan-1 and Jourdan-22 appear to represent the same person because: Same data, Jourdan-22 has the correct French spelling of the Huguenot LNAB which later became Dutchified ...
posted by Philip van der Walt

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