Caroline Jupp (1805 - 1843)

Ancestors

Wife of Henry Peters — married 23 Aug 1829 in St Mark, Kennington, Surrey, England

Descendants

Died 25 Sep 1843 at about age 38 in Bognor, South Bersted, Sussex, England

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Biography

This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.

Name

Name: Caroline /Jupp/^[1]

Burial

Burial: aged 38 of Bognor (Sussex FHG Record)

Date: 29 Sept 1843

Place: St Mary, South Bersted

Residence

Residence:

Date: 1841

Place: South Berstead, Sussex, England^[2]

Christening

Christening: Sussex Family History Group data archive, baptisms, 2012

Date: 5 Mar 1805

Place: St Peter and St Paul, Rustington, Sussex

User ID

User ID: 9138B101028646428CEDCD6E384FAB0F80FC

Note

Note: Governor of NZ 1889 -1892

PICTURE REFERENCE: 1/1-001596; G, Alexander Turnbull Library, Herman John Schmidt Collection (PAColl-3059)

Photograph by Hemus & Hanna

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from George Onslow Browne's bible

Tui Lundie-Robertson: possibly a Jupp connection with Dr W G Grace, the famous cricketer - someone called Jupp came out with him (Carry had mentioned it)

"In the years 1872 and 1874 Grace took sides to North America and Australia respectively"

George Onslow Browne's bible shows the Onslow link through Caroline, showing her as Caroline Onslow, not Jupp, connected to Thomas Onslow, 2nd Earl who died 1827.

However Debretts say (14 Nov 1978) "according to the Peerage Thomas 2nd Earl of Onslow (1754 to 1827) married twice, from the first he had three sons, and an unmarried dgter; by his second marriage, another unmarried dgter"

or could the Onslow link have been thru Henry's mother?

Said Ray Matthews in a letter 20-5-1980, the 1st Earl of Onslow "looks remarkably like George Onslow Hall, my uncle"

From Dictionary of NZ Biography on the Web:

http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/dnzb/

Onslow, William Hillier 1853 - 1911

Politician, colonial governor, the 4th Earl of Onslow. Tui Lundie-Robertson says Dr McCrystal was supposed to be a cousin to him (letter 24 Oct 1980)

William Hillier Onslow was born at Old Alresford, Hampshire, England, on 7 March 1853, the only son of George Augustus Cranley Onslow and his wife, Mary Harriet Anne Loftus. He was educated at Eton College and then briefly entered Exeter College, Oxford. In 1870, on the death of his great-uncle Arthur George, third earl of Onslow, he succeeded to the title and the family seat of Clandon Park in Surrey. On 3 February 1875 he married Florence Coulstoun Gardner, elder daughter of Lord Gardner, at St George's, Hanover Square, London. They were to have two sons and two daughters.

Onslow, following in a long family tradition of parliamentary service, had a distinguished career in the House of Lords. In February 1887 he was appointed parliamentary under-secretary of state for the colonies, and was vice president of the first Colonial Conference held in April that year. In February 1888 he was appointed parliamentary secretary to the Board of Trade.

At this time of economic stress (in Britain as in New Zealand) Onslow, whose rural estates were evidently hard hit, sought a salaried appointment as a colonial governor. Queensland was suggested, but on 24 November 1888 he was appointed governor of New Zealand. The New Zealand government had just cut the allowances for the governor's establishment and travel costs; this effectively downgraded the position by comparison with vice-regal posts elsewhere in the British Empire, and meant that it no longer attracted an experienced colonial administrator. Onslow was the first New Zealand governor since Robert FitzRoy in 1843 to have had no previous experience in vice-regal office, and, at 35, the youngest to be appointed since George Grey in 1845. Nor did he have the flair or flamboyance which helped some later governors win popular support.

Onslow assumed office on 2 May 1889 and with his wife took up residence in Government House in Wellington. A few months later there was an outbreak of typhoid in the town; their son and heir came down with the disease and for a time seemed in danger of his life. The Onslows were appalled and thereafter avoided Wellington whenever possible - a policy which did little for their popularity there.

However, Lady Onslow was at Government House on 13 November 1890 to give birth to their second son. As the first vice-regal child born in New Zealand, and in the colony's 50th jubilee year, it was variously suggested that he be given a distinctively New Zealand name, and that Queen Victoria might honour him and the colony as a godmother. After some negotiation both were arranged and the infant was named Victor Alexander Herbert Huia - the last after the native bird which symbolised nobility. Local sensitivities and the demands of protocol were satisfied by a christening ceremony in St Paul's Cathedral Church, Thorndon, Wellington, with the mayor, C. J. Johnston, as a godfather 'representing the people of New Zealand', and some months later by a hui at Otaki to present Huia Onslow (as he was always known) to Ngati Huia who had in fact suggested his name.

Onslow, while noting the 'frightful jealousy' between the different towns and provinces of the colony, tended to discount signs of a developing national sentiment. For instance, in October 1889, as a prominent Freemason, he was approached by a group of local Masons seeking his patronage and support for a proposed Grand Lodge of New Zealand under which all the Masonic lodges of the colony, then under English, Scottish or Irish constitutions, could unite. Onslow hesitated, arguing that the time was not yet ripe - a position also taken by the leading Mason of Wellington (and premier) Sir Harry Atkinson. However, a majority of the Masons in New Zealand, including a large number of Atkinson's parliamentary colleagues (among them John Ballance, leader of the opposition) supported the new national body, which was successfully established in April 1890.

In 1890 Onslow told a friend, 'Colonials…are very easily led', but the results of his subsequent contests with ministers suggest otherwise. These contests arose over the constitutional issue of appointments to the Legislative Council which were made by the governor on the advice of his ministers. Up until 1890 Atkinson's government had refrained from advising any appointments to the Council. However, during that year his conservative followers, increasingly alarmed at the prospect of Ballance's Liberals gaining power, urged him to ensure a conservative majority in the Legislative Council. Onslow was by nature a conservative, and probably not unsympathetic to this viewpoint. In any case, he was familiar with the accepted practice in the British Parliament for appointments to the House of Lords to be made on the advice of even a defeated government. It was evidently with this precedent in mind that, when Atkinson raised the matter in May 1890, Onslow gave the rather unguarded assurance that a 'little list' of names for the Legislative Council could be agreed upon and held for appointing 'if things go wrong with you in the House or Country'.

At the election in December things did indeed go wrong for Atkinson's government, although until Parliament met again it was not clear whether Ballance's supporters would be numerous enough to take power. When rumour then spread of the 'little list' that would stiffen the Council against that eventuality, Onslow was quickly made aware that whatever the practice in Britain, it was widely felt in New Zealand that such an expedient on the part of a moribund government was neither usual nor acceptable.

Atkinson procrastinated, but finally forced the issue. Despite the public opposition to the appointments, Onslow could see no constitutional grounds either in his Royal Instructions or in colonial precedent for refusing to act on Atkinson's advice. He managed to have the number of appointments reduced from 11 to 6 (to a Council which then numbered only 39) but gave his assent, justifying his decision to the Colonial Office in terms of 'the constant practice in England'. In New Zealand, however, he was seen as aligning himself with the conservatives. Atkinson got his majority in the Council, but in the process its already shaky reputation was seriously undermined, and enough uncommitted members of the House were pushed into Ballance's camp to give him a clear majority when Parliament met a few days later.

Onslow found the new government members 'very earnest, very quiet, very conscientious'. Almost immediately another constitutional issue was settled without friction, when at Ballance's request and with the approval of the Colonial Office Onslow agreed to accept the advice of his ministers on the granting of pardons and reprieves - thus relinquishing one of the governor's remaining areas of responsibility.

In October 1891 Onslow sought leave to resign his position, pleading 'urgent and pressing' difficulties with his affairs in England. It appears also that he had found the costs of maintaining the dignity of his office heavier than expected, and, with the Wellington City Council still unable to act on the city's sanitation, he continued to fear for his family's health there.

Shortly before Onslow was due to sail, Ballance raised the issue of appointments to the Legislative Council again, seeking 18 appointments to counterbalance Atkinson's of the previous year and to fill recent vacancies. Onslow was unwilling to thus 'alter the complexion' of the Council by replacing a conservative majority with a liberal one; indeed, under his view of the constitutional function of an upper house it was axiomatic that the Council should always be conservative in approach, if not in political complexion. Onslow therefore indicated that he could agree to no more than eight appointments, but Ballance declined this compromise. Onslow was again placed in an awkward position. Rather than rejecting Ballance's advice and leaving his successor to deal with the consequences, he asked that the matter be deferred. This decision was hardly more popular than his earlier assent to Atkinson's appointments; in the event Onslow's successor, Lord Glasgow, proved so obdurate that the issue continued to bring the position of both governor and Council into question throughout his term as well.

One matter, however, was satisfactorily concluded before Onslow left in February 1892. He had become interested in the preservation of the native flora and fauna, and, building on the publicity surrounding the naming of his son Huia, had submitted a memorandum to the government (drafted for him by the prominent ornithologist Sir Walter Buller) urging the case for island sanctuaries for the disappearing native birds, and for statutory protection of his son's namesake, the huia, in particular. Ballance supported the idea and legal protection for the species was drawn up to be signed by Onslow on the eve of his departure.

Onslow returned to England and his parliamentary career in the House of Lords. He became parliamentary under-secretary of state for India in 1895, for the colonies in 1900, and reached cabinet rank in 1903 as president of the Board of Agriculture. He was chairman of committees in the House of Lords from 1905 until failing health forced his retirement in 1911. He died at Hendon, Middlesex, on 23 October the same year; his wife died in 1934.

ROSS GALBREATH

Dalton, B. J. 'The governors of New Zealand, 1868--1892: a constitutional study'. MA thesis, Canterbury, 1951

The dictionary of national biography. Supplement, 1901--1911. London, 1912

Jackson, W. K. The New Zealand Legislative Council. Dunedin, 1972

Obit. The Times. 24 Oct. 1911

HOW TO CITE THIS BIOGRAPHY: Galbreath, Ross. 'Onslow, William Hillier 1853 - 1911'. Dictionary of New Zealand Biography, updated 22 April 2002 URL: http://www.dnzb.govt.nz/

The original version of this biography was published in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography Volume Two (1870-1900), 1993 © Crown Copyright 1993-2002. Published by the Ministry for Culture and Heritage, Wellington, New Zealand. All rights reserved.

Huia Onslow : a memoir / by Muriel Onslow.

Author: Onslow, Muriel Wheldale.

Publisher: London : E. Arnold, 1924.

Description: Book, vii, 247 p., [4] leaves of plates : ill., geneal. table, ports. ; 23 cm

Huia Onslow 1890-1922, the NZ born son of Lord Onslow.

AP: Special Collections NZ, 920

Author: Vulliamy, C. E. (Colwyn Edward), 1886-

Title: The Onslow family, 1528-1874, with some account of their times / by C.E. Vulliamy. Publisher: London, Chapman & Hall, 1953.

Description: Book x, 277 p. illus., ports. 23 cm. LC Call Number: CS439 LC Subject: Onslow family. England--Genealogy. Note: Includes index. Held: National Library of New Zealand (WN) 929.2 ONS 1953

Onslow, Richard William Alan Onslow, 5th Earl of, 1876-1945.

Title: Sixty-three years : diplomacy, the Great War and politics, with notes on travel, sport and other things / by the Earl of Onslow. Publisher: London : Hutchinson & Co., [1944] Description: Book 204 p., [16] p. of plates : ill., ports. ; 24 cm. LC Subject: Onslow, Richard William Alan Onslow, 5th Earl of, 1876-1945. Diplomats--Great Britain--Biography. Politicians--Great Britain--Biography. Great Britain--Politics and government--20th century.

Note: Includes references to author's time in New Zealand while his father was Governor. Subtitle on jacket: The autobiography of the Earl of Onslow P.C., G.B.E., J.P., D.L. Includes index. Indexed Referenced in: Bagnall O156 Held: National Library of New Zealand, Alexander Turnbull (WTU) P 920 ONS 1944

The house with the golden eyes. unlocking the secret history of "Hinemihi", the Maori Meeting House from Te Wairoa (New Zealand) and Clandon Park (Surrey, England). Alan Gallop

Author: Gallop. Alan

Subject: Onslow. William Hillier. Earl of. 1853-1911

Subject: Hinemihi o te Ao Tawhito. Meeting house

Subject: Maori (New Zealand people). Social life and customs. 19th century

Publication details: Sunbury on Thames. Running Horse Books. 1998

Description: 160p, [32]p of plates. ill. facsims, ports. 20cm. pbk

ISBN: 0953382907. m

Shelfmark: YC.1999.a.185

Current Dewey No: 725.0899944221

TI- Report on the family and estate papers of the Earl of Onslow 1630-1968

AU- Onslow Family of

SE- Surrey Record Office. Guildford Muniment Room. GMR List ; 173

PU- London, 1976

source: COPAC library catalogue May 2002

(Medical):Ann Tapner present at death

Note: caroline peters 1843

http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=6b1ddd6d-7256-4b6d-9dc4-c2240e7d2416&tid=29627737&pid=111

Marriage

Husband: Henry Peters

Wife: Caroline Jupp

Child: Humphrey Peters

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Louisa Peters

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Ellen Peters

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Onslow Peters

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Elizabeth Ing Peters

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Marriage: shows name as Caroline Jupp in presence of Miles Jupp and Francis Harriet Jupp from Ancestry.com. London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Date: 23 Aug 1829

Place: St Mark, Kennington, London

Source:

Note: source: IGI www.familysearch.org Richter says, 4-1-1907 "I have it in my notes that she was married to Henry Peters in 1825 at Arundel.."^[3]

Note: henry and caroline marriage 1829 banns

http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=ff2998c8-6b2d-4e94-bcd6-0b87e1b376d9&tid=29627737&pid=112

Note: henry and caroline marriage 1829 banns

http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=4f393450-a140-458e-bd43-c36f407b3b9a&tid=29627737&pid=112

Note: henry and caroline marriage 1829 banns

http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=document&guid=9323d51d-eae8-4035-bb36-e9a30149f7cd&tid=29627737&pid=112

Husband: George Spencer Jupp

Wife: Susannah Wise

Child: George Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Frances Harriet Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Spencer Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Humphrey Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: William Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: James Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Caroline Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Langham Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Albert Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Jane Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: Thomas Gratwicke Jupp

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Marriage: Pallot's shows "Wandswort. TRCCP (Angmering, Sussex) Geo. Spencer Jupp and Susannah Wise 17.11.91in presence of ? Langham and E? Peters

Date: 18 Nov 1791

Place: parish of Angmering?, Wandsworth All Saints, England^[4][5]

Sources

• WikiTree profile Jupp-33 created through the import of McCrystall Peters Tuffery Irel.ged on Oct 23, 2012 by Russell Tuffery. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Russell and others.

• Source: S-1623287208 Repository: #R-1870904293 Title: Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001.Original data - The original paper slip index, from which this database was created, is owned by The Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies, Canterbury, England.Original data: T Note: APID: 1,5967::0
• Repository: R-1870904293 Name: Ancestry.com.au Address: http://www.Ancestry.com.au Note:
• Source: S-1635281949 Repository: #R-1870904293 Title: London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.Original data - Church of England Parish Registers, 1754-1921. London Metropolitan Archives, London.Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries, Archives Note: APID: 1,1623::0
• Source: S-1862412356 Repository: #R-1875264486 Title: 1841 England Census Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc, 2010.Original data - Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1841. Data imaged from the National Note: APID: 1,8978::0
• Repository: R-1875264486 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Note:
• Source: S-1870893313 Repository: #R-1870904293 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Page: Ancestry Family Trees Note: Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=29627737&pid=111

1. ↑ Source: #S-1862412356 Page: Class: HO107; Piece 1099; Book: 1; Civil Parish: South Berstead; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 25; Page: 13; Line: 22; GSU roll: 474674. Note: http://search.Ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&h=14627773&ti=5544&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1811 Birth place: Sussex, England Residence date: 1841 Residence place: South Berstead, Sussex, England APID: 1,8978::14627773
2. ↑ Source: #S-1862412356 Page: Class: HO107; Piece 1099; Book: 1; Civil Parish: South Berstead; County: Sussex; Enumeration District: 2; Folio: 25; Page: 13; Line: 22; GSU roll: 474674. Note: http://search.Ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&h=14627773&ti=5544&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1811 Birth place: Sussex, England Residence date: 1841 Residence place: South Berstead, Sussex, England APID: 1,8978::14627773
3. ↑ Source: #S-1635281949 Note: http://search.Ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=lmamarriages&h=1772494&ti=5544&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Marriage date: 23 Aug 1829 Marriage place: Kennington St Mark, England APID: 1,1623::1772494
4. ↑ Source: #S-1635281949 Note: http://search.Ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=lmamarriages&h=4659750&ti=5544&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Marriage date: 18 Nov 1792 Marriage place: Wandsworth All Saints, England APID: 1,1623::4659750
5. ↑ Source: #S-1623287208 Note: http://search.Ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&h=1668851&ti=5544&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Marriage date: 18 Nov 1791 Marriage place: Wandsworth APID: 1,5967::1668851