Susannah (King) Worley
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Susannah (King) Worley (1811 - 1885)

Susannah "Suzy" Worley formerly King
Born in Buncombe County, North Carolina, United Statesmap
Daughter of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1828 in Buncombe County, North Carolinamap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , and
Died at about age 74 in Big Pine, Madison County, North Carolina, United Statesmap
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Biography

She married Nathan Worley and they had six children together. [1]
She also had one daughter from another relationship.
She died on October 7, 1885, in Madison, North Carolina, having lived a long life of 80 years, and was buried there.[2]
Children as per FindaGrave:
  1. William M. Worley (1830 - 1919)*
  2. Julia Caroline Worley Roberts (1833 - 1919)*
  3. Harriet Worley Buckner (1837 - 1934)*
  4. Adolphus Andrew Worley (1842 - 1928)*
  5. David Worley (1845 - 1919)*


Research Notes

  1. Birth is found as 1805,[2]1811[3], 1812
  2. Additional children are found in the 1850 Census[3]
  3. While Nathan and the children are found in 1860, Susanna is not[4]
  4. Nathan and Susannah's headstone was erected many many years after their passing. Susannah's death date states 1885, but I believe it was more like 1855 as Susannah was not with Nathan in the 1860 census, and he was listed as widowed in the 1870 census. [5]
  5. Many records supporting data on Ancestry.com are just "wrong"
    1. 1830 census has her listed as the Head of Household, as Susan Worley, which would mean her husband and she are living separately as here is his 1830 census record[6]
    2. Many trees have her birth as 1792, with parents born in 1786 and 1780.
    3. Death date for 1885 is supported by a death record of a Susan King in Philadelphia, who was born in Pennsylvania in 1805 and died in Washington, D.C. in 1885, thus making the dates on her headstone questionable.

Sources

  1. ↑ Marriage Record.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Find A Grave: Memorial #110485805
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4B7-RKY : 4 April 2020), Susanna Worley in household of Nathan Worley, Buncombe county, part of, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing family 1042, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  4. ↑ "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD64-4P7 : 19 March 2020), Nathan Worley, 1860.
  5. ↑ Note from Family member on Ancestry.com
  6. ↑ "United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH5M-KTS : 22 August 2017), Nathan Worley, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing 264, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 118; FHL microfilm 18,084.




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Images: 3
Daughter of Calli Cothern king ( Morning Dove
Daughter of Calli Cothern king ( Morning Dove
Susan King
Susan King
Susanah Worley
Susanah Worley


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Robb Lane
Much of this is very cloudy. The picture of her daughter surely has Cherokee features. The fact that someone "checked their sources" and she was never married to William King after reading that it was "illegal" to marry interracially? If she lived on the reservation maybe it's why she would not have applied for the "Cherokee Money" or appeared on some census records? There do appear to be some duplicate entries. Someone said he was 300 miles away so no relationship yet he attended school in NC and spent time there? He traveled to Cuba didn't he? William Rufus King having NO children at all really? They say there is new Cherokee DNA work being done maybe it helps some. Good luck all.
posted by Robb Lane
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
There is nothing to support any Cherokee claims. I am a Cherokee citizen and have been working with Cherokee genealogy and history for 40 years. I have never seen a record for a Cherokee woman named "Morning Dove." There is no one named "King" or "Worley" on the 1835 Cherokee Census, no Worley on the 1848 Mullay Roll, the 1851 Siler Roll, the 1852 Chapman Roll, the 1869 Swetland Roll, or the 1883 Hester Roll. Many of these rolls involved money, so people were generally eager to sign up. None of her children who were alive in 1907 filed an application for a share of the Eastern Cherokee payment. Interracial marriage was illegal, so white men who married Cherokee women lived with them in the Cherokee Nation, not in white communities.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Roberts-29950 Ashley Roberts
Thank you for this information. I have also suspected that the assertion that Susannah King was half Cherokee was false. I have found absolutely no supporting documentation nor any proof that Morning Dove existed. I have researched extensively and I cannot find a source that backs this story up. I only see it in stories attached to trees. I descend from Susannah's daughter, Julia Worley.
posted by Ashley Roberts
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Also, you should explain where she is during the 1860 census...."United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD64-4P7 : 19 March 2020), Nathan Worley, 1860. There is Nathan with 4 of the youngest children.
posted by Robin Lee
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
1) You may want to add the children that are shown on the 1850 census to have a "complete" view of the family. It may help with finding additional information about her father.

2) The marriage record attached indicates a marriage in 1805, which means she was born earlier than shown.

posted by Robin Lee
edited by Robin Lee
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
King-32964 and King-14834 appear to represent the same person because: same husband and similar dates
posted by Robin Lee
Davis-22213 Teresa Davis
King-14834 and King-30739 appear to represent the same person because: They are the same people.
posted by Teresa Davis
Carol Wolf
Where is the record for her birth in the “cherokee nation”?

What year would this photograph have been taken?

posted by Carol Wolf
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Trying to figure out where Susan is from 1860 on...she is not living with Nathan and the children in 1860 "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD64-4P7 : 12 April 2016), Nathan Worley, 1860.
posted by Robin Lee
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
based on the census record attached, Susan was born in 1811 "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4B7-RKY : 12 April 2016), Susanna Worley in household of Nathan Worley, Buncombe county, part of, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing family 1042, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
posted by Robin Lee
William Mason
I have checked on my resources William Rufus DeVane King was never married so Morning dove was not his wife
posted by William Mason
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
King-20889 and King-14834 appear to represent the same person because: same dates and husband per find a grave source
posted by Robin Lee
Margaret (Mercer) Garner
Her parents are said to be Rufus King and Morning Dove, a Cherokee woman.
posted by Margaret (Mercer) Garner

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