Roger Lee (bef. 1360 - bef. 1380)

Born before 1360 in Shropshire, England

Husband of Johanna (Burnell) Lee — married before 1374 in Shropshire, England

Descendants

Died before 31 Mar 1380 at about age 20 in Shropshire, England

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Biography

Roger de la Lee was born before 1360 (based on him being 14 when his son Edward de la Lee, of Pemenhulle, was born in 1374/5, which is based on Edward reaching his majority in 1395/6.^[1]

Roger was the son of John the son of John the son of Reyner de la Lee, according to Roger's grandson, Ralph Lee, the son of his daughter, Petronilla,^[2] and Reyner de la Lee was the son of Thomas de la Lee, Kt, according to Roger's son, Edward de la Lee, of Pemenhulle.^[1] In xj Edward II [1317/8], Philip de Wistanestowe gave Roger's father John, and the heirs of his body, land in Staunton-upon-Hynhithe.^{[3] [2]}

Roger de la Lee (or Robert), the son of John or Robert, first [Lee] Lord of Langley, married Joan,^[4] or Johanna, the daughter and heir of Edward Burnell.^[5] Joan or Joanna Burnell was of Acton Burnell and Langley.^[6] Edward, the son of William Burnel, married Margaret, the daughter of Reginald de Leyghe, on 10 January 1328/9 at Longeleys in Shropshire,^[7] (as they were to live with their respective father's for 4 years one of them, or both, was probably underage).

Roger Lee was the father of:

1. Edward de la Lee, of Pemenhulle, who was the Plaintiff in a de Banco case in 19 Richard II which was 22 June 1395-21 June 1396,^[1] presumably in his majority to be initiating a court case, so born before 1374/5.

Roger de la Lee and Joan his wife were the parents of:

1. Petronilla,^[2] born in or before 1378, who was married to Robert Lee lord of Roden^[8] before 17 November 1400, and the heir of her mother, Joan, wife of Roger de la Lee.^[4] Petronilla's husband, Robert, was the son of Roger Lee, first Lee of Coton, and his wife Margaret, the daughter of Thomas Astley of Nordley Regis.^[6] Petronilla was the mother of
   1. Ralph Lee, who was the Plaintiff in a de Banco case in Salop in 37 Henry VI which was 1 September 1458-31 August 1459;^[2]

Roger de la Lee was dead before 31 March 1380, because on that date, Johanna, who was the wife of Roger de la Lee, granted and released and quitclaimed to Nicholas Burnell lord of Holgot and his heirs all her right and claim to land between the park of the manor of Acton, which extended to the township of Longeley, containing in woollen measurements 24 royal feet of land, saving to Johanna and her heirs the crop or wood growing or which have grown on the land.^[9]

In 19 Richard II [22 June 1395-21 June 1396], Edward de la Lee of Pemenhulle (Pimhill), the son of Roger son of John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee, sued Ralph, Abbot of Haghmond, for three messuages and a carucate of land in Hadenhale, which Thomas de la Lee, Kt, gave to Reyner, his son, and the heirs of his body; the Abbot called to warranty Hugh Cheyne, Chivaler, son and heir of Hugh Cheyne.^[1]

A writ was issued on 26 October 1400, regarding Joan, wife of Roger de la Lee, who died on 18 September, and an Inquisition was taken at Shrewsbury in Shropshire on 17 November, which found that Joan's daughter, Petronilla, aged 22 years and more, wife of Robert Lee of Roden, was her heir, and had no children at that time.^[4] The jury found Joan held in her demesne as of fee:

• a third part of the manor of Langley, with the advowson of the chapel of Ruckley, of the king in chief as one third of a quarter of a knight’s fee, annual value 40s.
• ‘Le Lee’, 1 messuage and 1 carucate of Robert Lee of Roden by a rent of 1d., annual value 26s.8d.
• Hadnall, 1 messuage and 1 virgate, of the same by a rent of 1d., annual value 10s.
• Leighton, 3 messuages and 3 virgates, of the abbot of Shrewsbury by a rent of 6s.8d., annual value 30s.; and 1 messuage and 1 nook, of Thomas earl of Arundel by a rent of 2s., annual value 10s.
• Shrewsbury, 1 burgage, of the king in free burgage, annual value 2s.^[4]

In 37 Henry VI [1 September 1458-31 August 1459], Ralph Lee, the son of Petronilla daughter of Roger son of John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee sued Roger Corbet, of Moreton, for land in Staunton-upon-Hynhithe, which Philip de Wystantowe had given to John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee and the heirs of his body in the time of Edward II [1307-1327].^[2]

Confusion about Roger Lee in Published Works

Roger or Robert? Son of John or Robert? The Visitation of Shropshire, 1623, says that Roger's name may have been Robert, that the parents of his daughter, Petronilla, were unknown, and that her husband, Robert de la Lee de Langley, was his son, by his wife, Johanna, the daughter of Edward Burnell.^[5] The Lee Pedigree by Townley and Pomfret from 1750, which is published in Mead,^[10] follows the Visitation.

However, the evidence from Roger's son, Edward,^[1] his grandson, Ralph,^[2] the Inquisition post mortem of his wife, Joan,^[4] and the will of his daughter Petronilla's husband, "Robert Lee, esq, Lord of Roodon"^[8] refutes the Visitation and clarifies many of the relationships in this family including, Roger's wife and children, and his paternal ancestors for four generations. Other errors in this family's pedigree in the Visitation of Shropshire are listed in the notes to Part One of Cazenove Lee's Lee Chronicle ^[11]

The Ancestors of Roger's Wife, Joan Burnel

"Rogerus Lee, son and heir, first lord of Langley. Marries Johanna, daughter and heiress of Edward Burnell.

"Being the eldest son of Robert Lee, he succeeds to most of the property on the paternal side, and his issue forms the direct line, or first branch, of the family. He also marries an heiress, by whom he obtains the Langley Estate, situated in Shropshire.

"Edward Burnel is mentioned in the parliamentary writs of Edward II, as the son and heir of Philip Burnell, who was summoned to parliament as a baron in 1316, and held lands in fourteen counties."^[12]

Joanna's father Edward Burnel was not the son and heir of Philip Burnell because:

• Sir Edward Burnel, son of Sir Philip Burnel, was born in 1286,^[13] his mother Maud Fitz Alan was the sister of Richard Earl of Arundel,^[14] who on 1302 petitioned the king and council for remedy as her late husband held socages and burgages in various counties when he died, and she ought to have them for the upbringing of Edward, Philip's son, who was under age, but the king had retained the properties.^[15]
• Edward Burnel, son of Philip Burnel, was married to Aline Despenser, the daughter of Hugh, who was living a widow In 1321, when she petitioned the King, that she might have for the term of her life, for a reasonable fine, the manor of Marley, which she purchased from Hugh Despenser the father without permission and which the escheator had seized.^[16],
• Edward died childless at Thirnyngg in Norfolk on 22 August 9 Edward II [1315/6], and his sister Maud the widow of John Lovel was his heir.^[17]
• On 10 July 14 Edward III [1340], Edward Burnell, Lord of Longleley, was one of the witnesses when the Lady Aline, widow of Edward Burnell, of the manor of Smethcote under the Longmynd, who held one third of the manor in dower of Lord John de handle, reached an agreement for the division of the woods and commons of the manor of Smethcote with the other people who held shares of that manor, ie, William de Smethcote; and John de Acton Scot and Rchard, son of Richard Tristremheld; some of the witnesses included Sir William de Erchalewe, Sir Roger Corbett de Cause, and John du Lee, Lord of Biriton.^[18]

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Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4} Wrottesley 1905, p. 198
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5} Wrottesley 1905, p. 398
3. ↑ George Grazebrook, FSA, and John Paul Rylands, FSA, ed., The visitation of Shropshire taken in the year 1623 by Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms; Marshals and Deputies to William Camden, Clarenceux King of Arms. With Additions from the Pedigrees of Shropshire Gentry taken by the Heralds in the Years 1569 and 1584, and Other Sources, Part II, The Publications of the Harleian Society, XXIX, (London: Harleian Society, 1889), accessed 4 December 2014, https://archive.org/stream/visitationshrop01britgoog#page/n39/mode/2up pp.315.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4} The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, British History Online, Vol XVIII Henry IV, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department / Institute of Historical Research, School of Advanced Study at the University of London, ), accessed 22 July 2023, https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol18/pp112-125#mt1-230 . Abstract No 399 Joan wife of Roger de la Lee.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} George Grazebrook, FSA, and John Paul Rylands, FSA, ed., The visitation of Shropshire taken in the year 1623 by Robert Tresswell, Somerset Herald, and Augustine Vincent, Rouge Croix Pursuivant of Arms; Marshals and Deputies to William Camden, Clarenceux King of Arms. With Additions from the Pedigrees of Shropshire Gentry taken by the Heralds in the Years 1569 and 1584, and Other Sources, Part II, Archive.org, The Publications of the Harleian Society, XXIX, (London: Harleian Society, 1889), accessed 3 December 2014, https://archive.org/stream/visitationshrop01britgoog#page/n43/mode/2up pp.318.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} Cazenove Gardner Lee, Jr, Lee Chronicle. Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees of Virginia, archive.org, Ed. Dorothy Mills Parker, (New York: New York University Press, 1957), accessed 3 December 2014, hhttps://archive.org/stream/leechroniclestud00leec#page/28/mode/2up pp.28-9.
7. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/177, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, LORDSHIP OF LANGLEY, HOTHALES http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/39f8ac98-b3d8-454e-a30d-ea9b246572bd. 7 November 2014
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1} The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/529, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, FAMILY MORTGAGES, MARRIAGE SETTLEMENTS & WILLS, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/28f436fc-c81e-4505-8b81-254d898c8a65. 7 November 2014
9. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/124, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, LANGLEY FEE & ACTON BURNELL, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/96313f6b-9321-4101-aef2-93393bc8ae0c. 16 November 2014
10. ↑ Edward C Mead, ed., Genealogical History of the Lee Family of Virginia and Maryland, archive.org, (New York: Richardson and Company, 1868), accessed 4 December 2014, https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00mead#page/n99/mode/2up pp.86.
11. ↑ Cazenove Gardner Lee, Jr, Lee Chronicle. Studies of the Early Generations of the Lees of Virginia, archive.org, Ed. Dorothy Mills Parker, (New York: New York University Press, 1957), accessed 3 December 2014, hhttps://archive.org/stream/leechroniclestud00leec#page/44/mode/2up pp.44-5.
12. ↑ Edward C Mead, ed., Genealogical History of the Lee Family of Virginia and Maryland, archive.org, (New York: Richardson and Company, 1868), accessed 2 December 2014, https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00mead#page/n39/mode/2up pp.35.
13. ↑ The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, archive.org, Vol III Edward I, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1912), accessed 22 September 2014, https://archive.org/stream/cu31924011387812#page/n161/mode/2up pp.116-26. Abstract No 194 Philip Burnell alias Burnel.
14. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/52/2570, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9062785, 6 November 2014.
15. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/313/E63, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9529114, 6 November 2014. The original document can be viewed online.
16. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/195/9741B, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9295629, 5 November 2014.
17. ↑ The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, archive.org, Vol V Edward II, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1908), accessed 23 September 2014, https://archive.org/stream/cu31924011387838#page/n417/mode/2up pp.390-4. Abstract No 611 Edward Burnel alias Bernel.
18. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: 2922/10/3/1/1-2, Manor of Smethcote, MANORIAL RECORDS. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/a0d4eba8-d9a0-4d20-a4b7-fb97f19313d1, 5 November 2014.

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