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Roger (Lee) Leigh (1352 - 1420)

Roger (Roger of Langley) Leigh formerly Lee aka de la Lee of Lee and Pimhill
Born in Shropshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died at about age 68 in Coton, Shropshire, Englandmap
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Contents

Biography

Conflicting Evidence of Parents

Roger Lee was the son of John the son of John the son of Reyner de la Lee[1] the son of Thomas de la Lee, Kt.[2] In the time of Edward II [1307-1327], Philip de Wystantowe gave Roger's father John, and the heirs of his body, land in Staunton-upon-Hynhithe.[1]

Or, Roger, being the eldest son of Robert Lee, succeeded to most of the property on the paternal side, and his issue formed the direct line, or first branch, of the family. [3] He has been detached from Robert I Lee. Parents need to be determined.

Marriage and Issue

Roger Lee married Johanna, daughter and heir of Edward Burnel. Edward, the son of William Burnel, married Margaret, the daughter of Reginald de Leyghe, on 10 January 1328/9 at Longeleys in Shropshire,[4] (as they were to live with their respective father's for 4 years one, or both of them, was probably underage).

Confusion re Johanna's father, Edward Burnel

Joanna's father, Edward Burnel, is NOT the Edward mentioned in the parliamentary writs of Edward II, as the son and heir of Philip Burnell, who was summoned to parliament as a baron in 1316, and held lands in fourteen counties. The evidence to discount this is:
  • Sir Edward Burnel, son of Sir Philip Burnel, was born in 1286,[5] his mother Maud Fitz Alan was the sister of Richard Earl of Arundel,[6] who on 1302 petitioned the king and council for remedy as her late husband held socages and burgages in various counties when he died, and she ought to have them for the upbringing of Edward, Philip's son, who was under age, but the king had retained the properties.[7]
  • Edward Burnel, son of Philip Burnel, was married to Aline Despenser, the daughter of Hugh, who was living a widow In 1321, when she petitioned the King, that she might have for the term of her life, for a reasonable fine, the manor of Marley, which she purchased from Hugh Despenser the father without permission and which the escheator had seized.[8],
  • Edward died childless at Thirnyngg in Norfolk on 22 August 9 Edward II [1315/6], and his sister Maud the widow of John Lovel was his heir.[9]

Roger Lee was the father of:

  1. Edward de la Lee, of Pemenhulle, who was the Plaintiff in a de Banco case in 19 Richard II which was 22 June 1395-21 June 1396.[2]
  2. Petronilla, who was married to Robert Lee lord of Roden;[10] Petronilla was the mother of
    1. Ralph Lee, who was the Plaintiff in a de Banco case in Salop in 37 Henry VI which was 1 September 1458-31 August 1459;[1]

Disputed child

  1. "Robert Lee of Langley, in the county of Shropshire. Marries Petronilla ____"[11], as appears per chart dated eleventh year of Henry IV., and another seventeenth of Henry VI., and also another dated twentieth of Henry VI.[12]
Petronilla and her husband, Robert Lee lord of Roden, on 11 November 1406, at Longeley, exchanged a meadow in Rukley for a meadow in the demesne of Longley with Ista Harreley and her son John.[10]
On 10 December 1408, Robert Lee lord of Rodon and Petronilla his wife leased to John Hugyns and his wife the manor of Staunton on Hyneheth with all it lands etc, except the ponds and the conynger and pleas and perquisites of the lord's court of his tenants there, to hold to John and his wife for the life of both, witnessed by Robert Corbert, Thomas Neuport, Robert Lee of Ofyton and others.[13] In 37 Henry VI [1 September 1458-31 August 1459], Ralph Lee, the son of Petronilla daughter of Roger son of John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee, sued Roger Corbet, of Moreton, for land in Staunton-upon-Hynhithe, which Philip de Wystantowe had given to John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee and the heirs of his body in the time of Edward II [1307-1327].[1]

Roger de la Lee was dead before 31 March 1380, because on that date, Johanna, who was the wife of Roger de la Lee, granted and released and quitclaimed to Nicholas Burnell lord of Holgot and his heirs all her right and claim to land between the park of the manor of Acton, which extended to the township of Longeley, containing in woollen measurements 24 royal feet of land, saving to Johanna and her heirs the crop or wood growing or which have grown on the land.[14]

In 19 Richard II [22 June 1395-21 June 1396], Edward de la Lee of Pemenhulle (Pimhill), the son of Roger son of John son of John son of Reyner de la Lee, sued Ralph, Abbot of Haghmond, for three messuages and a carucate of land in Hadenhale, which Thomas de la Lee, Kt, gave to Reyner, his son, and the heirs of his body; the Abbot called to warranty Hugh Cheyne, Chivaler, son and heir of Hugh Cheyne.[2]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Wrottesley 1905, p. 398
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Wrottesley 1905, p. 198
  3. Edward C Mead, ed., Genealogical History of the Lee Family of Virginia and Maryland, archive.org, (New York: Richardson and Company, 1868), accessed 29 November 2014, https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhist00mead#page/n97/mode/2up pp.84-88.
  4. The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/177, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, LORDSHIP OF LANGLEY, HOTHALES http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/39f8ac98-b3d8-454e-a30d-ea9b246572bd. 7 November 2014
  5. The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, archive.org, Vol III Edward I, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1912), accessed 22 September 2014, https://archive.org/stream/cu31924011387812#page/n161/mode/2up pp.116-26. Abstract No 194 Philip Burnell alias Burnel.
  6. The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/52/2570, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9062785, 6 November 2014.
  7. The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/313/E63, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9529114, 6 November 2014. The original document can be viewed online.
  8. The National Archives Website: Discovery: SC 8/195/9741B, PETITIONS TO THE KING; TO THE KING AND COUNCIL; TO THE COUNCIL; TO THE PARLIAMENT; AND THE LIKE. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9295629, 5 November 2014.
  9. The Deputy Keeper of the Records, Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem and other Analogous Documents preserved in the Public Record Office, archive.org, Vol V Edward II, (London: His Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for the Home Department, 1908), accessed 23 September 2014, https://archive.org/stream/cu31924011387838#page/n417/mode/2up pp.390-4. Abstract No 611 Edward Burnel alias Bernel.
  10. 10.0 10.1 The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/237, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, LORDSHIP OF LANGLEY, RUCKLEY, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/33f47e8b-8e96-4394-ac04-e4f5d912b605. 2 December 2014
  11. Note on Petronilla Lee: Said by John D Newport at Ancestry.com to be daughter of Roger Lee and his second wife, Joanna Burnell, and to have married her half-brother. (Still looking for confirmation. amb)
  12. Mead, p. 35.,accessed 2014-05-11, amb
  13. The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/473, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, Deeds - Shropshire, STANTON-on-HINEHEATH, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/08d7ef7e-9859-4d7d-a66e-aa382314a025. 16 November 2014
  14. The National Archives Website: Discovery: 1514/124, Catalogue of the Shropshire deeds and papers of the Smythe Family of Acton Burnell, LANGLEY FEE & ACTON BURNELL, http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/96313f6b-9321-4101-aef2-93393bc8ae0c. 16 November 2014

See also:

Acknowledgements

  • Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011
  • Whittaker Family Tree.ged on Jul 2, 2011
  • Stout - Trask - Cowan .ged on 19 April 2011




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Thanks Leigh Anne. I adopted this profile and did not create the linked data. I do not think I even have permissions to modify the profile. If you’d like to become the profile manager and have the credentials to modify it please ask to be added and I am glad to transfer it. -MM
Maxine - you've got son Robert born before his father (b.1366). This has probably been generating a system error msg. for awhile now.
There appears to be a problem with the next three generations of ancestors. A review of the dates indicates some of the entries cannot be correct. There is another version on the Lee Barrs Studstill Conine Tomlinson on rootsweb, but it also has some obvious problems.
posted by Julian Quattlebaum III

Unmerged matches › Roger Lee (bef.1360-bef.1380)

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