Anne (Leneuf du Herisson) Leneuf

Anne (Leneuf du Herisson) Leneuf

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Anne Leneuf formerly Leneuf du Herisson aka Leneuf du Herisson, Desrosiers, Desrosiers dit Desilets
Born in Thury, Normandie, Francemap [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married in Trois-Rivières, QCmap
Died in Champlain, Quebec, Canadamap
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Contents

Name

Name: Anne /Leneuf du Herisson/
Given Name: Anne
Surname: Leneuf du Herisson
Married Name: Desrosiers dit Desilets

An explicit Surname and Married Name were both found.

Birth

Birth:
User ID: 31A59B78-EC19-445F-A1F3-D78E1D8B4562
Record ID Number: MH:IF9929
Date: 1632
Place: Caen, Normandie, France


Death

Death:
User ID: 0041F480-5B55-4558-A4AF-CBE43698D595
Record ID Number: MH:IF9930


UPD

UPD 02 FEB 2009 16:36:13 GMT-6


Record ID Number

Record ID Number: MH:I4873


User ID

User ID: 0FFC4072-E838-40E2-8AA9-03E2BBDA5DE8



Biographie

Elle est aussi connue sous le nom de Anne Leneuf du Hérisson 8, Anne Leneuf 6, 7, Anne Le Neuf du Hérisson 5 et Anne du Herrison 4.

Elle est la fille de Michel Leneuf.

Contrairement à ce qui est écrit dans la source citée, elle n'est pas la fille de Jeanne Le Marchand et Sieur Mathieu Leneuf du Hérisson.

Elle nait vers 1632 à Thury-Harcourt, Normandie, France 2, 3, 8, 9, 10, 11. Le contrat de mariage de Anne du Hérisson et Antoine des Rosiers est signé le 24 novembre 1647 à Trois-Rivières, Mauricie, Québec, Canada 5, 12, 13. Jacques Bourdin, Anne des Rosiers, Antoine des Rosiers, Jean Desrosiers, Michel Desrosiers dit Desilets, Anne du Hérisson et Antoine des Rosiers vivent en 1666 à Trois-Rivières 2. Antoine des Rosiers, Anne du Hérisson, vivaient en 1667 au petit Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Mauricie, Antoine des Rosiers possédait cinq bestiaux et quinze arpents de terre en valeur 1. Arnault, Marie des Rosiers, Antoine des Rosiers, Jean Desrosiers, Pierre Desrosiers et Anne du Hérisson vivent en 1681 chez Antoine des Rosiers à Champlain, Québec 4. Elle est inhumée le 5 décembre 1702 à Québec, Capitale-Nationale, Québec 8. Elle décède le 16 octobre 1711 à Champlain 12.

Liste de ses enfants connus: + 1. Michel Desrosiers dit Desilets (1652 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 2. Jean Desrosiers (1657 - 1704) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 3. Antoine des Rosiers (1664 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 4. Anne des Rosiers (1661 - 1731) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 5. Pierre Desrosiers (1667 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers)

6. Marie des Rosiers (1671 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers)

+ 7. Marie Des Roziers (1650 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 8. Joseph Desrosiers (1655 - ) (de Antoine des Rosiers) + 9. Marie-Jeanne Desrosiers (de Antoine des Rosiers) Anne was born in 1633. Anne le Neuf du Herrison ... She passed away in 1711. [1]

1. Internet - Recensement de 1667 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, édition 977, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.

2. Internet - Recensement de 1666 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.

3. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 192

4. Internet - Recensement de 1681 en Nouvelle-France, référant au chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@gel.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.

5. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 192, 381

6. Noblesse Québécoise - Table 68A

7. Courriel de Natalie Bédard - 2 avril 2008, selon PRDH

8. Courriel de S Lavoie-Desjardin - 30 janvier 2009

9. Internet - Recensement de 1681 en Nouvelle-France, référant au chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@gel.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998. Âgée de 50 ans.

10. Internet - Recensement de 1667 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, édition 977, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998. Âgée de 30 ans.

11. Noblesse Québécoise - Table 134 (vers 1630)

12. Noblesse Québécoise - Table 134

13. Casgrain, Baby et Perreault - p. 164 (1649) Source: Généalogie Québec.

From the entry on her father in the Dictionary of Canadian Biography: [1] "The documents provide us with very little information about his private life. When he arrived in New France he was single or a widower, for he brought out with him a little girl of four who still bore the name Anne Du Hérisson and not Anne Leneuf Du Hérisson. It is possible, as has been claimed, that she was his illegitimate daughter. No precise information is given in this young woman’s marriage contract with Antoine Desrosiers dated 24 Nov. 1647."

Biography

Her legitimate(natural or biological)mother is not known. It is possible that she was illegitimate or that her biological mother died in childbirth or at another time before they embarked on their voyage.

Legitimate or illegitimate daughter of Michel LeNeuf du Hérisson

Marriage or Union

Anne at 16 & Antoine Desrosiers at 30

24 November 1647

Trois-Rivieres, Canada

Sources

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogy=Anne_LeNeuf&pid=11120&lng=en&partID=11119

Burial

16 OCT 1711
Champlain
Québec
Canada
{geni:county} Champlain

Note

Additional reference: 29-6.
A short bio of Antoine Desrosiers acquired from the internet (copy filed 29-2).
"Your Ancient Canadian Family Ties"-Olivier pg 95.
"Recueil de Genealogies des Comtes de Charlevoix et Saguenay"-Gerard pg 168.
Jette pg 348; 713.
"1667 Census of Quebec" Vol II pg 47.
"Origin of French Canadian Families"-Godbout pg 84.
"Our French Canadian Ancestors"-Laforest Vol II Chap 8 pg 55 & 59.
1666 census of Trois-Rivieres shows this family as follows: Antoine des Rosiers, age 46; his wife Anne du Herisson, age 34; children: Michel, age 13; Jean, age 8; Anne, age 4; Antoine, age 2; domestic: Jacques Bourdin, age 22;.source filed in censuses.
Tanguay Vol I pg 192; 381; 396.
"Complement au Tanguay"-Leboeuf series 2 pg 90.
"La Conquete du Canada par les Normands"-Godbout pg 171.
According to Jette pg 713 she was born out of wedlock in France to a woman who died before her father came to Canada and brought her with him. However, Tanguay Vol I pg 381 shows her as the daughter of Jeanne LeMarchand.
Add'l info acquired from the net (copy filed 29-3).
Family group sheet of #883 from Sue Rood genealogy (filed Sue Rood papers).
Ancestry.com download named 28817.ged (copy filed 29-2).
"The Grand Families" from the internet (copy filed 29-2).
<http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MarjChapman/trdargie.htm> (copy filed 29-2) mentions the dowry bestowed to them by her father. This item also contains some historical facts relative to this couple.
<http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MarjChapman/TRDUHERR.HTM> (copy filed 29-6).
<http://home.attbi.com/~sodapop68/webtree/pafg21.htm> (copy filed 29-2).
<http://membres.lycos.fr/ancetre/LeNeufM.htm> (copy filed 29-6), also in her father's internal textfile.
Jette pg 348 states born in France to a mother, name unknown, who died before she and her father came to Canada in 1636.
<http://membres.lycos.fr/ancetre/desrosiers.htm< (copy filed 29-2 also in her spouse's internal textfile).
Marriage contravt (c. 24 Nov 1647 Boujonnier).
LDS Ancestral File, family group record of #892 (copy filed 29-4).
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The following was acquired from: <http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec/000/156.php> a translated version follows:
Here the family of Antoine DESROSIERS and Anne LENEUF of the HERISSON!
DESROSIERS, Antoine (Antoine & Sylvie) , Baptized 1617-04-14 Renaison. (The Loire), France, Deceased 1691-08-08, Buried 1691-08-09 Champlain (Quebec)
* Married 1647 Renaison (The Loire:), France, marriage contract 1647-11-24 (Notary Boujonnier)
LENEUF of the HERISSON, Anne (Michel LENEUF &.., according to DGFQ 348, born about 1632 (census-1666, Sép-1702) Caen (Calvados:), France, buried 1702-12-05 Quebec (Quebec)
1) Anne , born 1661-11-12, baptized 1661-11-12 Three-Rivers (Quebec), died 1731-02-23, buried 1731-02-24 Champlain (Quebec), marriage contract 1674-04-04 heading 1674-04-14 (notary Guillaume Larue) Jacques TURCOT , married Champlain (Quebec) 1702-04-24 Jean Baptiste DEBIDABÉ aka TROISVILLE
2) Antoine , born 1664-08-30, baptized 1664-08-30 Three-Rivers (Quebec), deceased between 1737-06-17 and 1742-01 Berthierville (Quebec), married Champlain (Quebec) 1696-11-26 Marie Renee LEPELLÉ
3) Jean , Married Champlain (Quebec) 1682-01-20 Marie Francoise Perrine DANDONNEAU
4) Marie , Baptized 1650-06-16 Three-Rivers (Quebec), Died After 1711-02-18, Married Three-Rivers (Quebec) 1664-02-19 Alexandre RAUX
5) Marie Jeanne , born about 1671 (rec-1681, conf-1681), 1673 (m-1687), deceased after 1744-08-28, married Champlain (Quebec) 1687-03-18 Claude DROUET of RICHARVILLE
6) Michel , marriage contract under private signature 1679-01-14 (notary Antoine Adhémar) Marie Thomas ARTAULT
7) Pierre , Married Champlain (Quebec) 1693-04-27 Marguerite AUBUCHON
Other information on this family
Source or reference: Ferdinand Desrosiers; Program research in historical demography of the University of Montreal (Prdh-rab)
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The following was acquired from <http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MarjChapman/TRDUHERR.HTM>:
MICHEL LeNEUF du HÉRISSON
His only child and daughter, Anne born 1632 in the bourg of Thierry in Caen, Normandy married Antoine DesROSIERS in 1649 is my direct ancestor.
Antoine Desrosiers and Anne duHérisson had eight children. Sons Jean born 1657 and Antoine born 1664, were members of an association created in 1683 between nine men from Champlain for the purpose of fur trading. The composition of these associates is noteworthy in that it concentrated the power of three influential families in the region: Dandonneau (Huguenot fur-trading merchants), Chorel and Aubuchon. Jean's wife was Françoise Dandonneau. The association dissolved after the summer of 1688 when Jacques Babie, merchant and principal investor, died.
All the sons were involved in the business of procuring and selling furs. Son, Michel dit Desilets born 1652 married Thomasse Artault the daughter of an Algonquin and a fur trader, son Jean dit LeFrenière married Françoise Dandonneau as mentioned above, Antoine dit DuTremble was part of the syndicate mentioned above and received a passport in 1689 to trade in the west. The west, in this case, was probably no further than the Great Lakes. To control the furtrading and collect appropriate taxes, the French government issued passports (permits), a form of license. They were difficult to acquire since in many years, only 25 were issued. To conduct fur trading or to travel west withouta passport was considered illegal and subject to punishment, most often fines or the confiscation of furs.
Son, Pierre dit Dargy born around 1667 married Marguerite AUBUCHON whose uncle was active in the trade.
Anne LeNeuf duHérisson died in Champlain in October 1711 at the age of 79.

Immigration

Immigration:
Date: 24 NOV 1647
  1. Entered by Sarah Sonn, Apr 15, 2013

Biography

[2]

Sources

Drouin Collection, Registres photographies aux Archives d’Ottawa Ont. 1638 à 1654 Trois-Rivières extraits de vieux

Footnotes

  1. Entered by Sarah Sonn, Apr 15, 2013
  2. Entered by Denis Givogue.

Biography

[3]

Sources

Drouin Collection, Registres photographies aux Archives d’Ottawa Ont. 1638 à 1654 Trois-Rivières extraits de vieux

Footnotes

  1. Entered by Sarah Sonn, Apr 15, 2013
  2. Entered by Denis Givogue.
  3. Entered by Denis Givogue.

Name

Name: Anne /LENEUF/[4][5][6][7]
Name: Marie-Anne /LENEUF DELAPOTERIE/[8][9]

Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Anne /LENEUF/.

Birth

Birth:
Date: 01 JAN 1632
Place: Caen, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France[10][11][12]

Death

Death:
Date: 16 OCT 1711
Place: Champlain, Quebec, Canada[13]

Event

Event:
Type: Arrival
Date: 1647
Place: Quebec, Canada[14]
Event:
Type: Arrival
Date: 1636
Place: Quebec, Canada[15]
Event:
Type: Arrival
Date: 1636
Place: Quebec, Canada[16]

Object

Object: @M2947@

Sources

  • WikiTree profile Leneuf-4 created through the import of Mykin_2012-01-10.ged on Jan 11, 2012 by Garnet Quigley. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Garnet and others.
  • Source: S382 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network.
  • Source: S427 Author: Gale Research Title: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2006.Original data: Filby, P. William, ed.. Passe; Repository: #R7
  • Source: S428 Author: Edmund West, comp. Title: Family Data Collection - Births Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.; Repository: #R7
  • Source: S441 Author: Edmund West, comp. Title: Family Data Collection - Deaths Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2001.; Repository: #R7

Notes

Note N447http://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=3655166&ti=5543&indiv=try&gss=pt
Note N448http://search.ancestry.myfamily.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=3654851&ti=5519&indiv=try&gss=pt
Note N449http://search.ancestry.myfamily.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genepoolb&h=2727433&ti=5519&indiv=try&gss=pt
Note N450http://search.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=3683541&ti=5543&indiv=try&gss=pt
Note N451http://search.ancestry.myfamily.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genepoold&h=1587619&ti=5519&indiv=try&gss=pt
Note N452
  1. Entered by Sarah Sonn, Apr 15, 2013
  2. Entered by Denis Givogue.
  3. Entered by Denis Givogue.
  4. Source: #S428 Data: Text: Birth date: 1632Birth place: Caen Note: #N449
  5. Source: #S441 Data: Text: Death date: 16 October 1711Death place: Champlain, Pq, Canada Note: #N451
  6. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 61. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N450
  7. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1647; Page Number: 172. Data: Text: Arrival date: 1647Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N447
  8. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 60. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N448
  9. Source: #S382 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=9078439&pid=314516383 Note: #N452
  10. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 60. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N448
  11. Source: #S428 Data: Text: Birth date: 1632Birth place: Caen Note: #N449
  12. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 61. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N450
  13. Source: #S441 Data: Text: Death date: 16 October 1711Death place: Champlain, Pq, Canada Note: #N451
  14. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1647; Page Number: 172. Data: Text: Arrival date: 1647Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N447
  15. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 61. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N450
  16. Source: #S427 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1636; Page Number: 60. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1632Birth place: Arrival date: 1636Arrival place: Quebec, Canada Note: #N448


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Images: 4
Antoine Desrosiers Image 2
Antoine Desrosiers Image 2


Anne du Hérrison Image 2
Anne du Hérrison Image 2


Michel le Neuf du Hérisson Image 1
Michel le Neuf du Hérisson Image 1


Alexandre Raux (Rheau) and Marie Desrosiers
Alexandre Raux (Rheau) and Marie Desrosiers


Collaboration

On November 10, 2014 at 02:50GMT Denis Givogue wrote:

Duhérisson-3 and Leneuf du Hérrison-1 are not ready to be merged because: Michel le Neuf du Hérisson (Le Neuf du Hérisson-1) did not marry and did not have any children, he was only present at the wedding and gave a dowry to her, too many managers on WikiTree only copy and plagiarize information from other Genealogy sites and none of them produced the actual act of marriage on November 24, 1647 in Trois-Rivieres, Canada so until then an Unmerged Match will remain

On September 20, 2014 at 23:42GMT Ross Ashley wrote:

Susan, you are right, the information on Jeanne le Marchand is so confused ... unless there were two of her, and Michel married a woman with the same name as his mother?

On September 20, 2014 at 22:32GMT Susan Martin wrote:

I am sorry i meant Jeanne LeMarchand is NOT Michel's wife, but his mother.

On September 20, 2014 at 22:31GMT Susan Martin wrote:

Genealogy of Canada has some very different information:

Mathieu LeNeuf (b 1575) married Jeanne Lemarchand (b 1575)

Their children are Michel (1600) , Jacques (1604), Madeleine (1605) and Marie (1611).

Michel is the Father of Anne LeNeuf ( b 1631)not her husband.

It is unknown whether Anne's mother died before her passage to Canada or that Anne might be an illegitimate child. Michel never married again.

My Source is http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogieLeNeuf_Anne&pid11120&lng=fr

I have NOT made any changes because of the complexities of all the relationships. I was hoping another person could confirm or deny the information before I jump in the middle of it.

On July 26, 2014 at 15:13GMT Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:

On July 19, 2014 at 20:11GMT Denis Givogue wrote:

Duhérisson-3 and Leneuf du Herisson-1 do not represent the same person because: Anne Leneuf is a fictitious character invented by someone who has posted in Genealogy of Canada site http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogyAntoine_Desrosiers&pid11119&lngen&partID11120 No one has produce the marriage contract dated November 24, 1647 in Trois-Riviers with Antoine Desrosiers and Anne Leneuf du Herisson and Antoine Desrosiers was not born April 14, 1617 in Renaison, France and when he died August 8, 1691 we was 90 years old not 74. WikiTree is a sort of Encyclopedia where information is supported by facts, not by sources copied from other Genealogy sites. I’ve tried to merge Antoine Desrosiers and Anne Duherrison at the beginning but was rejected stating that there are 3 Antoine Desrosiers, my sources were wrong, so even though these 2 Anne appears to be the same person I’m rejecting the merge since I don’t want to get into another dispute with the other managers of this site.



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